whichone

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I Just finished chapter 3

I have almost completely failed

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I Used the walkthrough, but I have just wasted 3 hours.
Looks like you followed the "Chris Male Romance" route.
You can see, in the Walkthrough, which objectives each route will achieve:

Chapter 3 of "Chris Male Romance" only achieves "You Went & Rescued Walker".
Chapter 3 of "Annie Male Romance" only achieves "You Met A Princess".
Chapter 3 of "Trisha (White Male)" achieves "You Agreed To Go To The Mines".
Chapter 3 of "Trisha (Black Male)" achieves "You Agreed To Go To The Mines" & "You Have A Dinner Invite".
Chapter 3 in the "Sarah Male Romance" route achieves "You met a Princess", "You Made Your First Kill" & "Babe Got Banged", as well as "You Rescued Walker".
 
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moskyx

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There are so many trolls on F95 it makes sense for fans to be a bit "on edge"

But if someone offers a non-confrontational review of what they "feel" are shortcomings, that is Constructive Criticism. If other people share those sentiments and maybe they decide to echo the thoughts and maybe it could lead to consideration of those issues and then perhaps one branch of the branching story could be more in line with that group and therefore you have a larger number of people who enjoy it. That is not a bad thing. It is also completely fine if the dev doesn't want to implement any of the changes and nowhere did I see declarations that she must or it was the only way to make a great game.

Again I know trolls can be annoying but we shouldn't troll people just because they feel differently about a game. And the instant harsh push back felt very...... troll-like

to me anyway


But again, I am but one person.

(I do tend to agree with some of the points made by ClockworkGnome and have my own other thoughts but I will refrain from putting anyone into defensive mode.)







PEACE
No, that's not constructive criticism. That's just politely meaningless criticism since it's entirely based on personal tastes and not on what the dev is trying to achieve. Constructive criticism would be something like 'you aimed for X and I feel you only got X-3, in my opinion you should change this and that and maybe that other thing too and that way you'd be closer to your intended goal'. Or 'I feel this section is clunky and kind of breaks the pace, you should try to improve it somehow'. That's something that may make the dev look into it.

But saying 'I don't get why you did this, I don't like that, I'm not attracted to any character so I'm not interested in playing the game anymore' is not constructive, it just means that the game was not made for you and you'd be better off by walking away from it. And sure, you can state why you didn't like it, but that's not constructive criticism, is merely an opinion that says more about you and your tastes than about some actual game's flaws. Which should be the point of being constructive.
 

rieyn

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But saying 'I don't get why you did this, I don't like that, I'm not attracted to any character so I'm not interested in playing the game anymore' is not constructive, it just means that the game was not made for you and you'd be better off by walking away from it. And sure, you can state why you didn't like it, but that's not constructive criticism, is merely an opinion that says more about you and your tastes than about some actual game's flaws. Which should be the point of being constructive.
Disagree. Constructive criticism has always been a hot topic because it means different things to different people. Some people get much more offended a lot more easily and others want a harsh review because they want to hear everyone's point of view on the matter. Even if they don't agree with the review. Even if the reviewer doesn't "belong to the audience" that the dev made the game for. Whatever that means. Only the dev can even make this determination, so I'd really just leave it for them.

I am a harsh critic of my own work and personally enjoy brutally honest critiques from others because few can match my own cynicism anyway. Often the main thing I get out of critiques is a different perspective that I hadn't even considered, because I'm already deep down through the rabbit hole of my own perspective. The whole "You did this well but.." kid gloves thing works for some people more than others, and personally speaking.. telling me what I did well is nice and all, but it's still just as useless as saying "this sucks." Main difference is.. that doesn't agitate the white knights nearly as much.

So that brings me to the main point here.. The real distinction in constructive criticism (as opposed to just criticism) is actually adding something positive productive to the comments you leave. Opinions are opinions but they're generally not very thought provoking by themselves. If someone has nothing useful to add to their opinions, they may be honest or they may be a troll. Who knows? Who cares. They're adding nothing to the discussion, so the outcome is no better than if they hadn't posted at all. There's a huge distinction between saying "I feel this is bland." and saying "I feel this is bland because..."

If someone is willing to spend their time consuming the content and then give honest constructive feedback, no one has any business stopping them regardless of their opinion. That right is reserved for the dev and the dev alone. This is especially so for games which encompass so many different fetishes. Just because someone likes x y and z doesn't mean they'll like every game with x y and z in it. Depends on the presentation and a lot more factors that have to do with the dev's tastes and their goals of the project.

It's actually kind of funny to me, seeing the mob mentality here when someone replies asking for more sex scenes. As if Heavy Five is the coffee table book that is accepted as "high brow" porn, and everyone needs to turn their nose up at the guy who occasionally wanders in looking for a penthouse centerfold. One is a "Collection of art produced by a profound professional." And the other is smut. Even though the same photographer shot both. :sneaky:
 
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Hildegardt

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Constructive criticism has always been a hot topic because it means different things to different people. Some people get much more offended a lot more easily and others want a harsh review because they want to hear everyone's point of view on the matter.
Constructive criticism only means different things to different people, because some people are wrong. It has nothing to do with getting offended.
For example I could say: "You should look up the definition of the word constructive.", which would be constructive criticism, or I could say: "The way you write doesn't appeal to me.", which would just be a matter of taste.
The real distinction in constructive criticism (as opposed to just criticism) is actually adding something positive productive to the comments you leave.
The clue is kind of in the term itself. Constructive criticism is supposed to be constructive. Some people might argue that leaving comments on porn forums is inherently unproductive.
 

Idontplay

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Actually this is a forum, a place in which everyone should be free to share his opinion about a certain topic, on condition that he is polite and respectful. And if these opinions aren't shared by other people? Well, we doesn't live under the USSR regime, so we can debate those opinions, but again we should remember to be polite, respectful and above all we should remember no one can decide what the other people can say or think.
 
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NeimadFR

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Hey, how's the femdom in this game?
That's a tricky question to answer, depends on what you're looking for in femdom. There's no instant humiliation with foot licking, face sitting and other stuff you see in most femdom games.
In my opinion it is the best femdom I've seen since it's more psychological. It's all about consent and setting boundaries from the start. So far it's only been edging based but I have a feeling that it will kick it up soon.
 

Oddball2k

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If you're just playing for femdom, there's no need.In my opinion this game has one of the worst femdom scenes.
Well, not cool to advise a newcomer on the thread to not bother playing the game on the Chris' Domme route with such a vague argumentation.
Can you develop it, please?

Kionashi and NeimadFR opinions were more detailed.

And let's face it, there are only two night sessions so far of this non-standard approach of femdom for a male MC, and it really well fits Chris' character, a very complex and intriguing one, imho.
As NeimadFR said, these night sessions will evolve, I'm pretty sure of it.

This Chris' Domme route could also open another Domme sub route with Trisha(Mrs Jones), I guess. To be continued...
 
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whichone

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The real distinction in constructive criticism (as opposed to just criticism) is actually adding something positive productive to the comments you leave.
I'd suggest the difference as follows:

Saying "I don't like this" is not criticism.
It's merely expressing one's subjective, negative opinion. Undefined & unsubstantiated.

Saying "I don't like this because..." is criticism.
It indicates the perceived faults that led to a negative opinion.

Saying "I don't like this because... Here's what I think would make it better" is constructive criticism.
It indicates the perceived faults & provides information & suggestions, intended to be constructive, on how to remedy said faults.
 
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