Are you paid by the dev or why do you feel the need to post a wall of text replying to every single comment that doesn't praise the game on their knees? Looking at the last few pages I'd legit feel bad for you if you weren't being paid compensation for this much simping.
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Tss tss, "the train of your insults glides on the rail of my indifference.." considering you're a professional of disinformation on the thread with this post about chapter four pre-remastered:
Yeah, the actual group of four testers was formed on the eighteenth of December 2019 and their only first task was to test the chapter one remastered, which was released on the first of January 2020.
No one from the testers has ever seen or tested your "finished chapter".
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"When they talked nonsense about the game, I didn't say anything. I thought everyone knew it was nonsense.
When lies were spread about the game, I didn't say anything. I thought everyone knew it was a lie.
When their individual taste was disguised as criticism, I said nothing. I thought everyone knew it was just a private opinion.
When the dev decided she'd had enough of the negativity and gave up on the game, it was too late to say anything."
It's not enough to be a patron, have to look like one. Our compensation's this good game. And yours?
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from Notty, chapter 5 seems to be almost ready and she started writing chapter 6. Her Patreon is still turned off.
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” if gender == "female." That erroneous full stop blocked an entire path from opening... ”
PLayers better choose their MC better next time.
PLayers better choose their MC better next time.
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, so I'll also say it here... You're not that far from the truth when saying this, she's lucky that her car accident leave her with only mild sequel that just need a surgery. Pass five months in a row split between pain, painkillers, your job, and a stupidly broke health system, then come show us how much progress you've made on whatever project you worked on during this time.But I'm sure that you, as well as the other poor deceived guys, care about this as much as I care about you stopping to play the game.
There's sub routes of course, but there's also already hours of content even with a single route. At least for people who take the time to be entertained. For the others, yes, obviously if you rush through the dialog it's not really an interesting game. But well, before everything else, this just prove that it's not a game for you and that you should have quit after your first try.
It's a thriller, people have to play it with their brain on, and I'm not talking about the one that poorly fit in your hand. But, as I said, this mean that it's not a game for everyone, what it totally natural, we each have our own tastes and desires. Not liking a genre is not a shame.
As for the milking part, it's something I've always found funny. You guys will never hesitate to link the tweets talking about delay, but never ever the ones saying that the pledges have been paused. And it happen that they are paused since months (May if I remember correctly). So much money that she refused to take... She's apparently as bad as milking than you believe her to be bad at making a game.
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In a chapter that haven't been released yet...
What a shame really, a dev that test her game before releasing it. And I'm serious, it's a shame. She should do like any other, including the authors of some top games, and release broken games. In one of the game I made a mod for, there's more than 200 bugs unresolved since years. And players don't care ; you can't complain about what you don't know. They just assume that there's nothing to see here, since there's nothing shown.
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True. You cannot initiate a lesbian relationship if your character is male. I'm going to propose a remastered version where the characters are non-binary.
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haha don't let me start about untested.. try windoze, damn now i started.. it's where unfinished development hits big sales, on your very OS people, from day one. then some major makers sell games running on that OS, and you may face bugfix patches for several years, no cashback, 'you bought it, package is open, deal with it, we throw you another patch.' years. especially online games' alpha and beta tests cost time, and with that, cost money. lots of it, while some concurrent game may hit the shelves just a week before yours, and you're out cold, because your game is old news then, and you've put in a hefty sum.
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It's the players' fault. They want everything immediately. And it's also the developers' fault. Service providers should not have to pay attention to all our tummy aches.
I tried a new game from here, which is already completed. The renderings are pretty ugly, the characters are grotesque, the gameplay is cumbersome, the writing... Not very good. It's also buggy. Interesting, but most players like it. (Perhaps because of the unusual content. I don't like shotacon.)
"This is the best game, whoa!" So the developer thinks that anything is good for them.
Another popular game is updated every 3 months. And many people whine about the lack of content. What do they expect in 3 months?
You can't please everyone. If money is more important to the developer than the program, it reduces quality.
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post ! TL;DR : her shoulder and game-killing bugs are being fixed, and her Patreon will still be paused for September. We won't be seeing a preview trailer, instead we'll be seeing posters every week. Patience...
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Notty's posts are always entertaining, so for those that wasn't a bit more than the tl;dr; here it is in full.
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It's the "Good news!" update...
News, news and more news this time around but let's start with the key one.
Health stuff
I got my shoulder fixed.
I couldn't go on as I was and it was no fun not knowing from one day to the next how much mobility I had (and for how long before things went sideways again). It was also more or less stopping any progress on Heavy Five (you can't really do that much with a couple of hours one day, a couple of hours a few days later); so I threw down the credit card and I've paid for private surgery.*
So I'm fixed. In hock to my eyeballs, but fixed. It's been a slightly ropey month as I've recovered but right now I feel as good as new. Or at least as good as I was back in April before the accident (well, bar a little scar or two), and I'll happily take that.**
So with that blocker out of the way I can, and given I had this done a few weeks ago with all progress being positive since then, say quite confidently that I can start putting in decent hours again and wrap this chapter up.
Speaking of which...
Chapter Five
Despite the above, work has been on-going on the chapter with elements of the game having actually gone out for playtesting. Not as much as I'd have liked for sure, but something is better than nothing and the feedback so far has been entirely positive. The graphics are better, the script is better and, most importantly, the gameplay is better. So that's a win at least.
Now I'm fighting fit again, I'm expecting to be able to start shovelling other parts of the game out to the testers at a rate of knots as most of them are all ready bar a couple of visual tweaks.
And we even have some breakthroughs on why the game as a whole kept falling over. You may recall that list of possible reasons I gave last month? And top of that was the impossible one of having broken Renpy? The one that couldn't possible be the reason?
Turns out I broke Renpy.
Well, overwhelmed it at any rate it would seem. I say this as one of the testers came back to me with a bug in a section of the game that was coded perfectly. Clean as the cleanest whistle. They'd had a look themselves and reported back that it was fine from what they could tell but there was a line break (or blank line) in the code and could it be that?
Well, no. You see if Renpy comes across a blank line it just ignores it and my code has been littered with blank lines from day one. As I'm coding and writing I often put little notes to myself in the code. Little nudges to myself to remember to take into account what would have happened elsewhere in the game for example. Once I've dealt with them, I then delete the note, often leaving a blank line in it's wake. Not best practice but I've done it for ages so, it couldn't be that.
Except it was.
The tester deleted the blank line and that section of the game worked perfectly. Why something that Renpy used to be fine with, no longer is I've no idea. None. But this explains why I was struggling to find the game killing bugs. I just couldn't see them. The only explanation I have is that there is perhaps so much code now that Renpy is having to be a little less forgiving. So, time to hunt down every line break it seems...
The chapter does still has some coding problems however, but they seem mainly related to the new GUI interface now as opposed to some massive unknown structural failure throughout, which is a much more manageable state of affairs (and one hell of a relief too!). With luck it's the sort of thing that a solid few days work should be able to resolve and now I have a dependable arm again (It moves, it turns, it can wiggle up and down! I can do the Peacemaker dance again!)*** it's now a practical proposition to do so as well.
Patronage
I'm pausing September patron support.
Why if I expect to be working on it all month? Well, I'm hedging my bets a bit. I'm certain I'm one hundred per cent fit. I'm also certain I can now throw in the hours to get a lot of the game tested in September and clear all the bugs too. But there's a difference between what I'm certain will happen and what will actually happen.
You see from where I sit, I'm bloody lucky to have you guys as patrons. You have to put up with a lot from me at times. My over-ambition in terms of the development, my quiet periods, the gaps between releases, my bad jokes and my bad luck too it seems. I'd be a bloody fool to take patronage like that for granted. I'd feel more comfortable getting a full months work under my belt before turning the tap back on again to be honest. Although I have been doing work since I paused in April, it's been "bitty" and I might need a full months run to get to where I should be progress wise. I feel I owe you that.
Alright, for once the delay isn't actually my fault but that still doesn't make this four month(!) delay any easier for any of us and I rest more easily knowing that, if I can't do anything about the delay (well other than what I have), at least I haven't let it cost you any money whilst all this has been going on.
Previews
I mentioned in my last post I was looking to put together a non-spoilery preview trailer but I haven't been able to manage it. Raiding the animation box, most of them are either lewd (oh, we have a -lot- of those...), links or full of spoilers. Hell, even the die roll in Caverns is spoilery, which might give you an idea of the extent of the problem. I did have a bash but a trailer full of links or VR combat moves just didn't pitch the chapter at all.
So instead, I've gone down the slightly arty route and whomped up some film style posters for each of the characters. I'll be dropping one of these once per week just to remind you I still exist
Besides they make a nice run in to the release of the game I feel.
Other matters
I'm still going to be fairly quiet comms wise. I'm not quite as furious at the world in general as I was (not going "Argh, bollockingbastardingarm!" when you reach for something helps with that I've found) but I am still a -little- grumpy.**** Besides I really want to focus and throw all my available hours into completion right now. I have peeked into the forum and discord a little but I think even there I'm going to be a fairly light visitor for the next few weeks, except for testing work, as I resolve and wrap up as much as I can. I trust you can appreciate my reasoning on this one.
And that's it for now.
Take care of yourselves and we'll speak soon.
Notty
* I realise paying for surgery is probably what a lot of you have to do elsewhere in the world, but over in the UK going private, instead of waiting for the sainted NHS to bless you with its services, is tantamount to confessing you sacrifice kittens to Satan whilst jumping up and down on a small child's favourite toys in hobnailed boots. Whilst dressed like a morris dancer.
** I did ask post surgery if I'd be able to play the violin and I was told I'd be able to with no problem at all. Which is nice as I've no idea how to play the violin. So, bonus?
*** That last one was my "Am I well?" test. Seriously.
**** I confess I may have pouted into a wine glass a few times bleating about "It's not bloody fair. Why me all the time?" but I'm over that now. But why take chances, right?
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It's the "Good news!" update...
News, news and more news this time around but let's start with the key one.
Health stuff
I got my shoulder fixed.
I couldn't go on as I was and it was no fun not knowing from one day to the next how much mobility I had (and for how long before things went sideways again). It was also more or less stopping any progress on Heavy Five (you can't really do that much with a couple of hours one day, a couple of hours a few days later); so I threw down the credit card and I've paid for private surgery.*
So I'm fixed. In hock to my eyeballs, but fixed. It's been a slightly ropey month as I've recovered but right now I feel as good as new. Or at least as good as I was back in April before the accident (well, bar a little scar or two), and I'll happily take that.**
So with that blocker out of the way I can, and given I had this done a few weeks ago with all progress being positive since then, say quite confidently that I can start putting in decent hours again and wrap this chapter up.
Speaking of which...
Chapter Five
Despite the above, work has been on-going on the chapter with elements of the game having actually gone out for playtesting. Not as much as I'd have liked for sure, but something is better than nothing and the feedback so far has been entirely positive. The graphics are better, the script is better and, most importantly, the gameplay is better. So that's a win at least.
Now I'm fighting fit again, I'm expecting to be able to start shovelling other parts of the game out to the testers at a rate of knots as most of them are all ready bar a couple of visual tweaks.
And we even have some breakthroughs on why the game as a whole kept falling over. You may recall that list of possible reasons I gave last month? And top of that was the impossible one of having broken Renpy? The one that couldn't possible be the reason?
Turns out I broke Renpy.
Well, overwhelmed it at any rate it would seem. I say this as one of the testers came back to me with a bug in a section of the game that was coded perfectly. Clean as the cleanest whistle. They'd had a look themselves and reported back that it was fine from what they could tell but there was a line break (or blank line) in the code and could it be that?
Well, no. You see if Renpy comes across a blank line it just ignores it and my code has been littered with blank lines from day one. As I'm coding and writing I often put little notes to myself in the code. Little nudges to myself to remember to take into account what would have happened elsewhere in the game for example. Once I've dealt with them, I then delete the note, often leaving a blank line in it's wake. Not best practice but I've done it for ages so, it couldn't be that.
Except it was.
The tester deleted the blank line and that section of the game worked perfectly. Why something that Renpy used to be fine with, no longer is I've no idea. None. But this explains why I was struggling to find the game killing bugs. I just couldn't see them. The only explanation I have is that there is perhaps so much code now that Renpy is having to be a little less forgiving. So, time to hunt down every line break it seems...
The chapter does still has some coding problems however, but they seem mainly related to the new GUI interface now as opposed to some massive unknown structural failure throughout, which is a much more manageable state of affairs (and one hell of a relief too!). With luck it's the sort of thing that a solid few days work should be able to resolve and now I have a dependable arm again (It moves, it turns, it can wiggle up and down! I can do the Peacemaker dance again!)*** it's now a practical proposition to do so as well.
Patronage
I'm pausing September patron support.
Why if I expect to be working on it all month? Well, I'm hedging my bets a bit. I'm certain I'm one hundred per cent fit. I'm also certain I can now throw in the hours to get a lot of the game tested in September and clear all the bugs too. But there's a difference between what I'm certain will happen and what will actually happen.
You see from where I sit, I'm bloody lucky to have you guys as patrons. You have to put up with a lot from me at times. My over-ambition in terms of the development, my quiet periods, the gaps between releases, my bad jokes and my bad luck too it seems. I'd be a bloody fool to take patronage like that for granted. I'd feel more comfortable getting a full months work under my belt before turning the tap back on again to be honest. Although I have been doing work since I paused in April, it's been "bitty" and I might need a full months run to get to where I should be progress wise. I feel I owe you that.
Alright, for once the delay isn't actually my fault but that still doesn't make this four month(!) delay any easier for any of us and I rest more easily knowing that, if I can't do anything about the delay (well other than what I have), at least I haven't let it cost you any money whilst all this has been going on.
Previews
I mentioned in my last post I was looking to put together a non-spoilery preview trailer but I haven't been able to manage it. Raiding the animation box, most of them are either lewd (oh, we have a -lot- of those...), links or full of spoilers. Hell, even the die roll in Caverns is spoilery, which might give you an idea of the extent of the problem. I did have a bash but a trailer full of links or VR combat moves just didn't pitch the chapter at all.
So instead, I've gone down the slightly arty route and whomped up some film style posters for each of the characters. I'll be dropping one of these once per week just to remind you I still exist
Besides they make a nice run in to the release of the game I feel.Other matters
I'm still going to be fairly quiet comms wise. I'm not quite as furious at the world in general as I was (not going "Argh, bollockingbastardingarm!" when you reach for something helps with that I've found) but I am still a -little- grumpy.**** Besides I really want to focus and throw all my available hours into completion right now. I have peeked into the forum and discord a little but I think even there I'm going to be a fairly light visitor for the next few weeks, except for testing work, as I resolve and wrap up as much as I can. I trust you can appreciate my reasoning on this one.
And that's it for now.
Take care of yourselves and we'll speak soon.
Notty
* I realise paying for surgery is probably what a lot of you have to do elsewhere in the world, but over in the UK going private, instead of waiting for the sainted NHS to bless you with its services, is tantamount to confessing you sacrifice kittens to Satan whilst jumping up and down on a small child's favourite toys in hobnailed boots. Whilst dressed like a morris dancer.
** I did ask post surgery if I'd be able to play the violin and I was told I'd be able to with no problem at all. Which is nice as I've no idea how to play the violin. So, bonus?
*** That last one was my "Am I well?" test. Seriously.
**** I confess I may have pouted into a wine glass a few times bleating about "It's not bloody fair. Why me all the time?" but I'm over that now. But why take chances, right?
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Having to replay the game over and over to try to get all the achievements was really off-putting for me. Has that been addressed in later updates or is there a mod available to unlock them? I don’t see any mods on the OP.
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The whole achievements system is being reworked for chapter 5 but you should keep in mind that you're not supposed to try to get all the achievements, for example some will be on paths with kinks you may dislike and it would be futile to play them just for an achievement.
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I think there is a misunderstanding here. Let me try to explain with an example. I don't know if you're familiar with classic role-playing games. There are two types of players, one is result oriented. They wants to beat the boss and gain the most experience points in the process. It's not their game.
The other is character/story oriented. For them, the journey is the destination.
Not everyone likes all waifu. Not everyone likes all content. (femdom/lesbian romance/blackmail/etc.) The idea of this game is that you shape the story. You can leave out what you don't like. But your choices affect the world. If you want to see all the content, you'll also see content you're not interested in. What you don't want. Or you don't like. (If you want to do this, use the skip function.)
Thanks. I never understood that. I'll try it again then with that in mind.
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I AM the undisputed bully of this game! I fkk you up real good should you play.
I am in your face” Wa-pa! Whatchu gonna do, loser? Yo can”t compete with my plot armor!
I grope them real good. Molest them, ”cause I am a woman. Nobody can prove shit!
I make ””em soil their pants and then hummiliate them! HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!
Pussy!
Welcome to the brig!