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SweatyDevil

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Ok this might be really dumb question but is there a way how to change text outline color or anything for mc thoughts? Sometimes i confused what is what. Would be nice to read it without thinking what is thoughts a whats actuall dialog, the font makes zero to none difference to me.
 

ClockworkGnome

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There is quite a lot of things that I'd like to share as a player. That said, i tend to be pretty thorough with my impressions so buckle up, it's gonna be a pretty long one.
I agree with a lot of your observations. In fact, some of them are the main reason I just deleted the game and likely won't bother coming back for future updates.

On the character front, I was rapidly left not really wanting to interact with any of the other characters at all. I'm playing as a female MC, but Chris is a bit too butch for my tastes, and her more aggressive dom style really isn't for me (and I kind of agree that her aggressive flirting with every woman she meets - and straight up molesting my sister under the guise of sparring - really doesn't make me all that sympathetic to her existence). Sarah's ditziness could be appealing (and her character design is nice), but her kinks aren't necessarily something I want to explore. For a while Annie seemed like a positive alternative, but then in the drinking scene she goes full-on stereotype Australian slang and smoking, and it killed most of her appeal. It's a sad thing when the only characters you find attractive as potential love interests at all are the author-insert tutorial narrators.

As for the other NPCs, most seem mildly intolerable, including our sister (I get they were probably going for sibling rivalry, but it comes across a bit too hostile and abusive for my taste). Mike's about the only one who doesn't grate, and that's because he's more of a non-entity than a full character.

(And if you've got problems with NTR - like you seem to from your post - the aliens feel like they've been set up solely to either present NTR-flavored threats to your crew or to straight up molest most of the female crew eventually.)

I definitely agree with the limited time issues preventing real immersion when it comes to interacting with characters/the setting/the story, but considering I barely want to interact with them at all that's not much of a problem. The MC being a bit of a passive observer (like you mentioned) and the awkwardness of the game interface at times (trying to explore and repair the base) make it feel more like a chore to slog through than something that encourages or rewards action on the part of the player. There may be a deep and interesting story hiding just under the surface, or waiting to blossom once the foundation is out of the way, but I have zero motivation to care or even look for it.

I mostly tried the game because it seemed like a lot of people were giving it huge positive reviews, but it feels like I can't possibly be playing the same game those people were.
 

Kionashi

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Guy writes out a thoughtful critique and that's your reaction? This thread sucks.
I mean, his feedback was mostly "I don't agree with the artistic vision of the dev" and while is fair and he is entitled to his opinion, is not really something that can be addressed since those aren't objective flaws.

He thinks Cris is too much of a butch for his taste, I think she is amazing as she is.

He thinks the sister is annoying, I believe that too, but I also think her bad attitude has a reason to be and I think it will lead to some interesting character development or simply a cool revelation in future updates so I don't really see it as a negative.

He thinks the naked aliens are there to NTR the whole crew, I think he needs to lookup the meaning of NTR first and then I don't think having a looming threat is a bad thing, it adds up to the suspense and motivate us to choose wisely to avoid those bad outcomes so is not really a negative.

He said he dislike the MC being a passive observer, I think is important to railroad some important events to avoid having too many branches that would clog the development time.

is all about perspectives
 

Hullahopp

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Guy writes out a thoughtful critique and that's your reaction? This thread sucks.
This was not a criticism, but a private opinion. Many people love the Desert Stalker. I don't, because it feels like a walking simulator.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's not okay for someone on a PIRATE site to try to explain to the dev that the game sucks because it doesn't suit THEIR tastes.
After a while you lose your patience when the umpteenth fapboy complains that the world doesn't revolve around him. And if you disagree with them, you're the white knight.
 

Oddball2k

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Hmm, what an inconvenient timing to give opinion on the game just before a major release.. Is it a badly prepared smear campaign??

Here is my opinion, to freshen up some memories, about an optional event.

There is this sportsmanship fight between Kelly(our sister) and Chris that could go totally unexpected.
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Yamura

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Hmm, what an inconvenient timing to give opinion on the game just before a major release.. Is it a badly prepared smear campaign??

Here is my opinion, to freshen up some memories, about an optional event.

There is this sportsmanship fight between Kelly(our sister) and Chris that could go totally unexpected.
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A fair approach. I also played this so far as a male MC avoiding romantic entanglements with any of the other women, mainly because there’s that little problem with officers getting into relationships with those of lower rank, Chris being the exception but also married. I guess others could then ask WTH are you playing this game for then, anyway?
 

ClockworkGnome

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I mean, his feedback was mostly "I don't agree with the artistic vision of the dev" and while is fair and he is entitled to his opinion, is not really something that can be addressed since those aren't objective flaws.
Oh, I agree 100%. I wasn't saying "this game is objectively terrible and anyone who likes it is wrong and bad", as much as I was suggesting "These are the reasons it doesn't click with me". Nothing wrong with different people having different opinions.


He thinks the naked aliens are there to NTR the whole crew, I think he needs to lookup the meaning of NTR first
Well, I'm pretty sure that having aliens rape your love interests fits the generally understood definition of NTR when it comes to porn. It's certainly applicable to the literal definition of NTR this site uses for tags ("Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC").

About the only way it wouldn't is if the MC actively agrees to offer up their love interests for breeding (at which point you're shading more into sharing as opposed to NTR). But most anti-NTR players wouldn't make that fine a distinction - they just don't want to see other people/things/etc. fucking their love interests at all.

But that's not exactly what I said regardless. I was responding to a post from someone who seemed to be pretty heavily anti-NTR, and I pointed out that I definitely get the vibe that the aliens are there to play up the NTR idea (giving a race of "nothing but males" giant exposed dicks on a planet you can't escape from feels like a pretty strong nod in the "Mars Needs Women" direction). As you yourself mention, it's a "looming threat". The question is whether the threat just stays a threat to increase dramatic tension, or eventually becomes a reality. But for players who are anti-NTR, the threat alone might be more than they're willing to deal with if it makes them uncomfortable (or if they don't trust the dev to not add unavoidable NTR later).

It was mostly just an aside (hence why I put it as a separate paragraph in parentheses) pointing out that if someone is strongly anti-NTR (like the post I was replying to seemed to be), it seemed like the threat of future NTR was always going to be looming. I wasn't saying it was definitely going to happen or that it was the reason why I was giving up on the game.


Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's not okay for someone on a PIRATE site to try to explain to the dev that the game sucks because it doesn't suit THEIR tastes.
By that logic, no one should have positive opinions either. The entire thread should just be one page with nothing but download links and objectively factual game dev updates.

The main reason to offer up negative opinions is so that other people who might be considering playing the game can see what other people think, both good and bad. And if they agree with those sorts of criticisms, they may choose to avoid a game. If, say, multiple people in a thread say "Man, I hate the MC because they're written like a total doormat", someone reading that might go "Man, I hate games with pushover MCs, maybe this game isn't for me." If people complain about a sandbox game being too grindy, people who don't like grindy sandbox games will know they might want to skip it. And so on.

And as long as you're offering your opinion relatively politely and not just saying stuff like "Man the dev is stupid and I hate them and wish they would just stop making games" or other abusive or hateful things, there's no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to say "I don't like this thing". Silencing all dissent and only allowing total praise or circle-jerk asskissing is a toxic mentality in and of itself. And honestly stifles creative growth for any artist because it means the only feedback they'll ever get is from people who refuse to say anything negative.

Game reviews aren't restricted to "Unless you're posting a glowing 5-star review, don't bother posting" (or if they are, you're on a terrible review site). Negative opinions can be just as useful at deciding whether or not you're going to like something as positive reviews are. Generally speaking, when I'm buying stuff on Amazon, I'll read both the 5-star reviews (to see people praise a product's good points) and the 1-star reviews (to see what sort of problems people had with the product) to try and get a feel for what a product is actually like.

I was mostly posting my opinions to agree with the previous poster (who had a lot of similar opinions to my impression), and to offer them up to anyone in the future who might be skimming the thread to see what people think of the game to decide if they want to play it. Considering that's exactly what I did before playing the game - and considering the excessive positivity misled me into thinking the game was something it's apparently not - a few more negative opinions might help other people in the future.

But hey, like what you like. The fact that I don't like it doesn't mean that you're not allowed to like it. Or somehow retroactively make your affection for it mean any less.


Guy writes out a thoughtful critique and that's your reaction? This thread sucks.
Ehh, someone was critical of a game they really like made by a dev they like, and it hurt their eFeelings. Happens all the time on the Internet. No big deal.
 
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