Ren'Py Abandoned Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[STNeish]

Last update was on Notty's Twitter back on July 5th:

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Ah, good. I don't use Twitter, so I wasn't aware of that. Good to see work is still going on.

 

[Kirel]

New update today:

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[Hullahopp]

New update today:

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Nope. This just a patreon post. Notty is still not accepting money because she is not fit enough to work. (Reminder: she was in a car accident.)

 

[Kirel]

Nope. This just a patreon post. Notty is still not accepting money because she is not fit enough to work. (Reminder: she was in a car accident.)

Yes, it's a patreon post with an *update* of the situation...

 

[whichone]

Nope. This just a patreon post. Notty is still not accepting money because she is not fit enough to work. (Reminder: she was in a car accident.)

The update was posted on Patreon today, 7hrs ago.
Quiite literally a "new update today".

 

[JD59]

So basically, we won't be expecting Chapter 5 to come out anytime soon, probably at the end of August... Between her accident and the sheer amount of coding behind this chapter as well as the bug fixes, we'll have to be very patient.

 

[GentleMaster]

Hey, how's the femdom in this game?

In my opinion it is a lot of fun. But, as many others have already stated, it's not really leather, whips, humiliation etcetera. So far it's been a pretty mild form of FemDom, and it's more like you -- as a player -- are being challenged by one of the characters (Chris).

So it completely depends on what your expectations are.

 

[JD59]

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about Chapter 5's testing in the caverns. It's not much but it seems to be good overall.

 

[Oddball2k]

Hi Drawmelike1ofurfrenchgirl, about the central part of your review:

For a game that started development January 2019, this game is incredibly short. The dialog does not intrigue, you're basically always left with 2 choices. Either agree with the NPC or the NPC won't like you and the story line ends. So in essence you are only left with one choice. Agree with the NPC because the other choice ends the game. That's not much of a choice imo.

Simple question: How many times the game ended for you and how it ended?

Thanks for your answer.

 

[Hullahopp]

Hi Drawmelike1ofurfrenchgirl, about the central part of your review:



Simple question: How many times the game ended for you and how it ended?

Thanks for your answer.

I had five endings.

1. The black panther accused me and I went to jail. (Maybe that's what Drawmelike1ofurfrenchgirl meant.)
2. I got caught in the shower. (Thanks, Davis.)
3. I got eaten by a bug. (Thank you, Davis.)
4. I got trampled by a thing with armor. (Fuck you, Davis.)
5. I was introduced to Eric. (Due to Davis.)

I guess I don't really like Davis.

 

[Oddball2k]

I had five endings.

1. The black panther accused me and I went to jail. (Maybe that's what Drawmelike1ofurfrenchgirl meant.)
2. I got caught in the shower. (Thanks, Davis.)
3. I got eaten by a bug. (Thank you, Davis.)
4. I got trampled by a thing with armor. (Fuck you, Davis.)
5. I was introduced to Eric. (Due to Davis.)

I guess I don't really like Davis.

Oh my, a faultless list, it's almost all of them so far, just a last one to discover.
Total respect Sir.

Questions:
1) No sudden or irresistible urge to write a pseudo review on the game and to blame the Dev mainly for those endings?

2) No urge to develop a twisted theory about Sarah Davis? She got your MC on dangerous paths, ain't she some kind of witch?

3)About Trish putting you in jail, what did you think of Becca(the Dev avatar) advice? No male pride hurt, I hope?

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I think I know already your answers. You seem to have a very good sense of humour and the right spirit to play this game at its full potential.

 

[Hullahopp]

Oh my, a faultless list, it's almost all of them so far, just a last one to discover.
Total respect Sir.

Questions:
1) No sudden or irresistible urge to write a pseudo review on the game and to blame the Dev mainly for those endings?

2) No urge to develop a twisted theory about Sarah Davis? She got your MC on dangerous paths, ain't she some kind of witch?

3)About Trish putting you in jail, what did you think of Becca(the Dev avatar) advice? No male pride hurt, I hope?

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I think I know already your answers. You seem to have a very good sense of humour and the right spirit to play this game at its full potential.

1)
Is that what you mean?

The game is too realistic! For example, in close combat, is it a bad idea to use a small caliber weapon to fire aimed shots! If you make very stupid decisions, you will die! What kind of world is this?!

(A friend tried PUA seduction techniques out of curiosity. In one night, he got nine slaps, two stomachs and a kick in the balls. Conclusion: women don't like assholes. Why would it be different in the game?)

2) I won't be playing softball with it, that's for sure. Sarah not evil, just...

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3) Hey, that was very wise and practical advice! (Unless you like the company of tough guys, but this is not that game. )

Thanks. " I mean like so many positive waves maybe we can't lose!"

 

[kami shigiri]

drop chapter five already please

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

drop chapter five already please

It's in the testing stages now.

 

[JD59]

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, this time about the strip poker, it's good to go

 

[JD59]

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, this time they found what seems to be one of the causes of the bugs found in the game. Sounds like we'll might wait for mid-September at this point...

 

[Oddball2k]

As things have cooled down on the thread, I can give my two cents on this:

I agree with a lot of your observations. In fact, some of them are the main reason I just deleted the game and likely won't bother coming back for future updates.

OK, talking about removing the game from your HD might sound like a "rage-quit", defo not a good start to introduce your opinion on the game.

On the character front, I was rapidly left not really wanting to interact with any of the other characters at all.

And it's already getting worse..

I'm playing as a female MC, but Chris is a bit too butch for my tastes, and her more aggressive dom style really isn't for me (and I kind of agree that her aggressive flirting with every woman she meets - and straight up molesting my sister under the guise of sparring - really doesn't make me all that sympathetic to her existence).

Er, what? You played as a female MC and found that Chris has an "aggressive dom style"??
As an experienced player of H5, let me strongly disagree with you:
1)"her aggressive flirting with every woman she meets"
Totally wrong! The only scene you witnessed of a "pseudo-flirting" is with Sarah during the Vanny's crisis. I say "pseudo-flirting" because if you'd have been more experienced about the game, it's totally fit Chris' pattern to prevent someone from freaking out. In this tense crisis, Sarah felt completely lost without the help of Sonia(the disconnected Vanny's AI pilot).. Sarah is a so-called "child of the blue" by Chris, if you know what I'm talking about.
And about flirting with Kelly, it's so anecdotal that I won't mention it.
2)"and straight up molesting my sister under the guise of sparring"
Wrong!
He-he, every time I read something like this about Chris' sexually assaulting/molesting our sister, I think here is another failed opinion.
Firstly, it's an optional event, not everyone has witnessed it. Secondly, you're the main cause if something went wonky, despite two failsafe options to quit. And Thirdly, your interpretation of the full optional event is biased and so wrong.
Cf. the spoiler in this post: https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-4-remastered-nottravis.23184/post-8515660

And the cherry on the quake, as a female MC, there is no domme route with Chris so far..

Sarah's ditziness could be appealing (and her character design is nice), but her kinks aren't necessarily something I want to explore.

OK, but triggering her "kinks" is not an obligation for having a romantic route with her.

For a while Annie seemed like a positive alternative, but then in the drinking scene she goes full-on stereotype Australian slang and smoking, and it killed most of her appeal.

Well, despite the fact that she is overplaying it (Yeah, she can hold her drink pretty well), your point of view..

It's a sad thing when the only characters you find attractive as potential love interests at all are the author-insert tutorial narrators.

Yep, so sad for you that HeavyFive_TheBonusGames-1.0 was never leaked here..

As for the other NPCs, most seem mildly intolerable, including our sister (I get they were probably going for sibling rivalry, but it comes across a bit too hostile and abusive for my taste). Mike's about the only one who doesn't grate, and that's because he's more of a non-entity than a full character.

Your lack of experience of the game is totally showing here. Nothing is straight forward in this game, especially characters-wise. Nottravis excels in getting you paranoid.. Whose are the ones I can trust?

(And if you've got problems with NTR - like you seem to from your post - the aliens feel like they've been set up solely to either present NTR-flavored threats to your crew or to straight up molest most of the female crew eventually.)

Tss Tss, using the three letters word on this thread is considered as a complete lack of argumentation. Last time it was mentioned here, two pages of methodical deconstructions of it were erased by the moderation, cause it took an unexpected turn... Never again!

I definitely agree with the limited time issues preventing real immersion when it comes to interacting with characters/the setting/the story, but considering I barely want to interact with them at all that's not much of a problem.

I guess you're talking about each day's free-roam. It's not an issue, but a feature. At each free-roams starts, there are more events available than your allotted time can cover. You have to schedule your free-roam to cover your best interested events, events that don't overlap each other and come one after another in time.
This feature makes your path quite unique, a personal one.
He-he, a reviewer tried to cheat by reducing the time spent on an event:
Yeah, I know where to find three specific power buses. Just replay the event and go straight to the three power buses to buy some time for the other events. What the..?? Nottravis used an anti-cheat trick. What a vile Dev, I'll whine about that in my review!?.. Low!!!

The MC being a bit of a passive observer (like you mentioned) and the awkwardness of the game interface at times (trying to explore and repair the base) make it feel more like a chore to slog through than something that encourages or rewards action on the part of the player. There may be a deep and interesting story hiding just under the surface, or waiting to blossom once the foundation is out of the way, but I have zero motivation to care or even look for it.

Really sad you deleted the game, plenty of rewards are coming in the form of achievements in the next release..

I mostly tried the game because it seemed like a lot of people were giving it huge positive reviews, but it feels like I can't possibly be playing the same game those people were.

Well, sorry you felt that way.

Can I suggest you to have another try later with the upcoming new chapters five or six with a refreshed GUI and an introduction to the up-to list of achievements?

 

[GentleMaster]

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There's either way too many subroutes or the developer is simply milking his supporters by working on this a few weeks each year, while pretending it isn't abandoned.
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In that case the dev (Nottravis) is doing a really poor job of the milking-aspect. She keeps pausing the Patreon payments quite frequently in order to prevent people having to pay for a month without getting anything in return.

Yes, this game does have a bit of a bumpy ride when it comes to the frequency of the updates. Aside from the bugs that were recently discovered, the dev has had a pretty bad year because of some personal issues and a pretty serious car accident which left her unable to work for a few months. And I'm not gonna lie, from what I gather from her progress-reports, Notty does a tendency to lose herself in the details and striving for perfection. Which is a good thing for quality, but not so much for the update-frequency.

Whenever there is an update however, the content is usually far more than 10 minutes worth (unless you fast-forward through everything aside from the sex-scenes). The Chris-domme module alone is already at least 30 minutes of content, or 5 - 10 if you cheat and skip!

But, this game is certainly not your typical erotic VN game. It leans far more towards a detective-story on an alien planet with the occasional sex-scene and you have to be willing to spent the time investigating and talking to everyone, and be willing to do multiple playthroughs to fully enjoy the depth of the game, the story and the characters. So it's definitely not a game for everyone.

Personally, I've really enjoyed every single path I've played with this game and I'm looking forward to the upcoming update. When it comes to story and attention for details, only a handful of VN's come close to this one in my honest opinion.

 

[STNeish]

I really enjoy games where the emphasis is on CHARACTER, even more than the erotic elements (though, I do like those parts too). That is, the erotic elements are FAR more interesting to me if I have some personal attachment to the characters involved, beyond mere appearance.

As such, I'm prepared to wait for something I really like. In its way, it's the closest thing to an actual relationship I have.

 

[Oddball2k]

I've given up on this game.

Unless there are some drastic changes it won't be finished within the developer's lifetime and I don't want to wait 1 year for 10 minutes of content.
There's either way too many subroutes or the developer is simply milking his supporters by working on this a few weeks each year, while pretending it isn't abandoned.
I've only played one route myself so idk.

Well, it seems you've given up on this game a long time ago.

You claimed waiting "for a few more chapters before continuing" when chapter four has been leaked out here, cf your previous post just below:

Thanks, I will wait for a few more chapters before continuing.
I was actually sarcastic using minutes instead of hours, but it seems like my fears were not unfounded.

I won't argue with you about your unrealistic counting of time spent on your own single route, nor your pseudo complaints on the game or the Dev.

My main concern is about your review posted a few minutes before your last post on the thread:
Writing a review of H5 based on the first three chapters(known as the introduction chapters) and without mentioning it, just before the release of chapter five, is simply dishonest.. Don't you think?