noname777

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You were acting like dick and blackmailing her friend. Don't you think you deserved it? It's a tad ruthless, but I would do something similar in her place. Am I crazy?
Would you really kill a man just because he was rude to your friend? o_O
I mean, antipathy is one thing, but murdering someone just like that is another thing. :unsure:
It wasn't even a murder in affection. It was murder in cold blood.
 

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Would you really kill a man just because he was rude to your friend? o_O
I mean, antipathy is one thing, but murdering someone just like that is another thing. :unsure:
It wasn't even a murder in affection. It was murder in cold blood.
The guy wasn't just rude, he was being a real creep. I stand with Annie! (And she allowed us to see Becca with black stockings :3)
 

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The guy wasn't just rude, he was being a real creep. I stand with Annie! (And she allowed us to see Becca with black stockings :3)
He was a dick, but it doesn't mean that someone should kill him. He saved all the crew (or at least Annie thought so) and he didn't even molest Sarah (at least at this point). What's worse, without him the whole mission doesn't make sense.
 
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Would you really kill a man just because he was rude to your friend? o_O
I mean, antipathy is one thing, but murdering someone just like that is another thing. :unsure:
It wasn't even a murder in affection. It was murder in cold blood.
I haven't played that route myself but there is a major difference between rudeness and blackmail. Maybe all the blackmail, drugging and sleep molesting on F95 has left you desensitized. ;) Should be a lot more dead MCs in the world imo. Affectionately murdered, whatever that is, or otherwise... Think Chris is capable of affectionate murder. Maybe crushed to death between her thighs in a naked triangle choke. :p
 

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He was a dick, but it doesn't mean that someone should kill him. He saved all the crew (or at least Annie thought so) and he didn't even molest Sarah (at least at this point). What's worse, without him the whole mission doesn't make sense.
Annie's not the kind to let someone who didn't molest her friend "yet" go free to do so. And if you think of it, Chris would have done the same. Those three girls have been through enough shit to watch their collective back, and they're not about to let some unknown asshole ruin it all.
As McWoodz said, maybe a lot more assholes MCs should meet Eric :p
Also, it was a way for Notty to tell the player that choices have consequences and that the usual tropes should not be expected to work.
 

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Welcome to the club. Married and mostly runs after girls. Even if you hook up with her there is still the issue of her better half. So even with her cool attitude she will probably prove to be a problematic LI. Casual flings, sure.. but relationship wise? Gonna be complicated. So she is a poor choice. I love to make poor life choices! :sneaky:
I'm pretty sure Chris would make a great mother though! I mean, how many mothers do you know who'd not only dispense cookies to keep you quiet, but would also teach you how to use firearms?
 

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Would you really kill a man just because he was rude to your friend? o_O
I mean, antipathy is one thing, but murdering someone just like that is another thing. :unsure:
It wasn't even a murder in affection. It was murder in cold blood.
He was a blackmailing asshole. That's not just being rude. Remember the situation? Lives were at stake. Would you really want to take that man with you on Ophion? Would you risk it?

The sensible option would be to tell Chris, restrain him and let him rot in tritanium for the rest of the stay on Ophion. But, how do you know he wouldn't get a way with it? He could ruin Sarah's career. He could also still endanger them in many ways during the mission. It's really about the circumstances, if the situation wasn't what it was, I'm sure Annie would just weld him in somewhere.:)
 
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Annie's not the kind to let someone who didn't molest her friend "yet" go free to do so. And if you think of it, Chris would have done the same. Those three girls have been through enough shit to watch their collective back, and they're not about to let some unknown asshole ruin it all.
As McWoodz said, maybe a lot more assholes MCs should meet Eric :p
Also, it was a way for Notty to tell the player that choices have consequences and that the usual tropes should not be expected to work.
I think Chris would have thrown him in tritanium to Ophion wildlife. He got away easy.:)
 
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And that's when you regret having called your character "Sweetypoo Massiveshlong the third"
I still prefer Gawd Damnit.
I spied on my sister in the shower, and she saw me being a creep so she came to my room and gave me a blowie!

or...

My mom saw my morning wood, so she took me to a motel and raped had sex of a questionable level of consent with me!

or...

My new coworker would lose her job if I told everyone what she did, so I blackmailed her, and after extorting a blowjob and sex she's fallen in love with me and wants to have my babies!

or ...

If I polish the solar panels every day for a month my mother, sister, aunt, random woman cyborg, and probably every woman on Earth will want to have sex with me!


Like those? ;)
Woo, tropes galore!

I haven't played that solar panels one in a while... XD
 

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Okay, i don't wish to take sides in this one but what i have to say is that from a realistic point of view.. that was creepy as hell and not in an exciting way. Or i think i should make a point with a series of questions:

Every crewmember has a role. An important role. Losing one will be noticed, there are reports that have to be made. This is an official military mission no?
So how do you think it would look like? Sorry, flightcontrol, sorry high command but i killed the dude because he was touching my friend inappropriately? This is a court marshal level case. You'd have to explain why you exactly chosed to actually KILL a fellow officer. Killed him because he was a douche and made unwanted advances? Let me tell you, this is life sentence in the most forgiving democracies. Death penalty in anything else.
What i think would happen is they cover the whole thing up -> Creepy as fuck and shows that they are like mercenaries and a pretty unreliable bunch with complete disregard to doctrines, hierarchy, military law and protocol. A military crewmember can NOT kill a molesting member because that offends her sense of gender equality. Especially not an officer. Detention. Disciplinary action. Demotion. Killing without court trial? Nope.

It only sounds cool if you view it from spectator point of view, otherwise its very disturbing. I'd NOT want such a crew and in place of High command i would never allow such a crew to assemble and lead any kind of mission that has even the slightest of importance.. especially not one that gets out of high commands reach. They could go rogue. So this is basically a huge fault and oversight on high commands part and this is a ticking bomb.

This can actually deliberately so.. if they didn't tell that this is a suicide mission in truth. But otherwise.. this whole killing thing is absurd. Its more like the chief there snapped and went insane. Which in turn shows that she is indeed a psycho and psychologic evaluation of her failed miserably. Its one thing that they consider themselves a female-only little amazon den but its still the military and not their little ship-kingdom.

Normally i don't care but i disagree wholeheartedly that killing the dude was the right thing to do.. it was everything but right.
 
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Not going to get into the game writing part of it, but that's an overly clean view of the military, and democracies, sadly.

There's stand your ground and Castle Doctrines that basically allow lethal force for percieved dangers (none of the let them draw first and certainly not shoot first). Like the kids getting shot at for trespassing while playing Pokemon Go.

For military, pretty much depends now active it is, and professional. If you're in a war, way more open. Much easier to train some people with a certain flexibility in their moral values, than to take a socially solid person and get them to be killers. And just the strain of combat can do that (or any disaster), the famous quote civilization is a thin veil over our savage.
One of my favorite parts from Grosse Pointe Blank


There was a chilling memoir moment about a couple of grunts after a hard few days of city fighting after D Day. Some fresh officer (from the rear) comes and talks to them being condesending by mentioned he heard they had a 'bit of a tough go at it' (something to that effect) while asking directions. So they gave him a route that they knew was covered by a German sniper. That's before the whole Vietnam fragging thing and other stuff. Ken Burns Doc on it, *shudders*. Life can be cheap.

Now that's not saying it's like that in the game, difference circumstances and more direct. But if quoting RL lets bring in the dirt also.
 
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