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Thank you all for taking the time to consider my musings.
More than welcome. I find these sort of conversations really useful tbh. :)

The conversation with Amanda at the end of Chapter 3 felt like a step towards a bigger role for the MC, so I'm hopefully that'll continue with Ch 4.
Oh for sure. The MC finds himself q....well. Let's see when Four comes out :)

But even if we're never going to see Nottravis knock ICSTOR off the podium
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But all we can do is see of course. Perhaps, even with the remaster, it won't be popular. Too strong a story, too many sexual options (and Christ, some of it is filth. We don't even have tags for most of it!), too much actually counting on making decisions as opposed to just grinding and whatnot.

But my course is set in many ways. I couldn't write or make the game differently I don't think - at least not this one for sure.

However, my thanks once again for your sensible input - and who knows, maybe we'll change that like to a love one day after all? :)

Also, you all (H5 fans in general) post too much! I kept meaning to reply and then getting distracted by the five pages of new posts that had sprung up since last time I checked!
I know, right? Madness!

Wow! That's one awesome mess! :love: I suppose that answers the question who does the cooking.:)
Yurp!

No one :)

Really fascinating how much the two of you are alike. ;)
I am nothing like that bubbleheaded pervy weirdo!
 

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Nottravis DA22 Huitieme Sinphil

Thank you all for taking the time to consider my musings.
Thank you for having posted your musings :)

Its a shame you can't comment more Notty, but yes, spoilers are evil and terrible things that should remain imprisoned out of sight and temptation. I'm interested to see how my impressions change as the story moves forward. The conversation with Amanda at the end of Chapter 3 felt like a step towards a bigger role for the MC, so I'm hopefully that'll continue with Ch 4.
Looks like your MC will be one of heroic deeds and professionalism skills :)

I also appreciated the moment of vulnerability (or at least uncertainty) that Chris had on the romance path, but that could just be a me thing. :p
I think that count as you being a man, and seing Chris all flustered would soften the hardest among us, and vice versa (pun very much intended) Chris sexy mama.png

Regarding the niche question... I'm cautiously optimistic. Yeah, when I first looked at the patreon earning list I was horrified. And like DA22 said, its not exclusive to adult games, or even gaming. I've been equally shocked looking at a list of bestselling fantasy/sci-fi authors. But even if we're never going to see Nottravis knock ICSTOR off the podium I think there's definitely room for H5's audience to grow. There's enough successful 'high brow' adult games out there to prove that there is a market for something more than "teenager with large genitals has intercourse with their 'landlady' and 'roommates'".
Originality sells! Or at least, I'd like to think it's true, but reality more often than not reminds us that it actually doesn't :(
Nonetheless, this is the kind of game that will be loved and cherished and remembered with fondness when others will only wither as quick monkey-spanking material.

DA22 & Sinphil, I'm basically in agreement with you that its early days and there's still plenty of opportunity for the MC to shine. To some extent its an issue for the episodic format. That being said, I think waiting too long would definitely be a mistake. We're three chapters and many-thousand words in already. Sure, it's quality scene setting. But we're still waiting for the payoff (dramatic, romantic, or sexual).
Just remember that the three first chapters are "merely" the introduction to the story (and what a great introduction it's been) Now, it can finally begin.

Obviously you've all got faith in Notty producing the goods. You guys have loved what's come so far, you're going to love what comes next.

For me it's a bit different. I like what's come so far. I hope that I love what's coming next. But until some of the payoff comes I'm going to be on the fence.
All Hail Notty, blessed be she among temptresses.
I wouldn't worry for you (but I can understand that you're still not totally sure).

Also, you all (H5 fans in general) post too much! I kept meaning to reply and then getting distracted by the five pages of new posts that had sprung up since last time I checked!
I'm sure I don't see what you mean. Isn't 364 post a day the norm? :whistle:
We might be a chatty bunch, but never hesitate to post your thoughts in here. As long as you're not some trollish cunt, everyone is welcomed with slightly open legs arms :)
 

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Originality sells! Or at least, I'd like to think it's true, but reality more often than not reminds us that it actually doesn't :(
Tell me about it. :(

Nonetheless, this is the kind of game that will be loved and cherished and remembered with fondness when others will only wither as quick monkey-spanking material.
Aye, this may not be a game for the masses, but it is and will be a cult game with a dedicated following. It may be more difficult for its audience to find a way to it, but it will happen. I firmly believe that. :)

I am nothing like that bubbleheaded pervy weirdo!
How about a bright, kind, adventureous girl with a great sense of humour and some perhaps slightly odd but interesting interests? ;)
 

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Yup, that's a pretty accurate description of Sarah. For Notty, though... you'd have to add Jaffa cakes addict, cackling temptress and evil mastermind or is it mistressmind? :unsure:
Well, I said alike. Not that they are exactly the same.:)

Still...:sneaky:
  • Notty isn't evil.
  • Sarah may well prove to be a mastermind.
  • Sarah is totes a temptress.
  • It's hard to determine what her laugh sounds like.
  • Who knows what Sarah will have for breakfast in Chapter Four, or what her favourite snacks are.:p
 

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Yurp!

No one :)
But, but then why do they keep having me make all that soup?
How about a bright, kind, adventureous girl with a great sense of humour and some perhaps slightly odd but interesting interests? ;)
Sounds about right.
Yup, that's a pretty accurate description of Sarah. For Notty, though... you'd have to add Jaffa cakes addict, cackling temptress and evil mastermind or is it mistressmind? :unsure:
Jaffa cakes for Notty, VR for Sarah...
Combine them, and you have a Jaffa Cake VR game!
 

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It has been a busy night and early morning again:p

Okay - halfway through the 12 pages that have accumulated:



I was planning on it. After all, she might actually know what's going on!



^ Seconded



Okay, I guess that means I thirded?



And Ping-Pong? :whistle:



Me too: Annie romance, the right way.



I love this so much. :love:



Aye - Annie is a certified badass in my book. Anyone that can dismantle a space ship, fix all the shit gone wrong and get it working again is a god/goddess as far as I'm concerned. (Have I mentioned how much I adore strong, capable women?)
What is that with all the bad asses? I have you know that Chris, Annie, Sarah, Kelly and even Trisha have great delectable enticing asses and everyone disagreeing will be locked up in a faraway cave with a certain wing-spider or ten. :devilish: Amanda I think we still have to still see a bit more up close and personal to really decide. (No, this ofc not begging for a nice render at all. :whistle:)

Oh, all the rooms have no smoking signs in. Except the lounge. Marcus was pretty insistent...





Usually, you get to see them due to different poses. Probs :)


Dunno about hurt but I guarantee ache...
You're "lucky" in that you'll have the Chris domme route the way it should be played (at least as I see it in my head). Play a chapter a day and seeing Chris at the end of each Chapter....*clamps thighs together in achey flashback*
Achey as in painful or should we assume there are other reasons to ache?

She's even cuter now :)
Now is that to make it harder for some of us to thread that path or just a tease to make sure we have no choice? As if that cute pirate is not a strong enough temptation on her own?

Thanks. All the transit rooms are meant for single occupancy tho *thinks back to her time staying in various mess accomodation*. Indeed -most- of the rooms are set up that way...



Oh, everybody knows what's going on. Or at least thinks they do...It's just what they they're thinking about might only relate to them of course. After all why would, say, Chris care about what Trisha is up to or Amanda be interested in what interests Sarah, or Mike be interested in what's driving Chris or......you get the idea :)
Yeah you meanie are having us deal with real people with all their own quirks, eccentricities, personalities, strengths and weaknesses instead of just polishing solar panels, shower peeking and showing of our super chlongs to get our porn fix. The horror, what is the world coming to? :p

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Evening artificial light with the lounge shutters closed

EDIT: Yes, I know we all get the joke, but Annie is over a hundred years down the line so the reference is a bit obscure by then - not to the resident perky pixie tho.

Edit, edit. Is it just me or is that skirt a little short to be playing pool?
Well that joke might be a bit more obscure outside of English speaking countries:p Superb render of a total knock-out Annie. Too short? That depends completely on her intentions and amount of teasing she is planning. Guess it is proof though Annie is just as aware as Sarah that she is very attractive and knows how to make sure to grab your attention when she wants to and where she wants that attention directed. :p

So...I have an idea for a feature. And I want to run it past my labrats..you guys.
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To be honest not sure if I would use the feature, since I kinda like the faceless MC, but it indeed sounds like something you would want to insert now and many would love.

But the real question is: will you make a bigger P for people choosing a darker skin? :D
Inferiority complexes Pepito? ":p

Wow! That's one awesome mess! :love: I suppose that answers the question who does the cooking.:)
Well it looks like we have uncovered one of Notty's fantasies,not having to cook for herself. :p

Worth a try. It's a neat feature and beats any kind of character creation I've seen in a VN so far.:)


I would most likely render my own MC(s), if only to be consistent with other characters. I could really see getting some creative fun out of this.:)


If it's a one time opportunity, it should be explored, I think. At least you won't later regret not trying to do this, if it proves too difficult to code. Chapter One can wait a bit.
Agreed, especially with that last part, just do not take it to hard if it does not work, but at least no need for regrets in that case.

Really fascinating how much the two of you are alike. ;)
Indeed, I guess that explains part of Notty's dislike and love for Rahrah. :p Though it is for a weird reason still my bet that it is Amanda that Notty thinks has most of herself. :p

Yurp!

No one :)
Well let's hope the auto cook is at least decent and also takes into account different tastes. If just cooks for th masses the food will be likely kinda bland, like many mainstream games.

How about a bright, kind, adventureous girl with a great sense of humour and some perhaps slightly odd but interesting interests? ;)
Well that describes Chris and Annie just as well and somehow I suspect Trisha, Amanda and Kelly as well, we just need to get to know them a bit better.

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*has got Sarah's naughty bits to outline against her knicks!*

*is pleased!*
Sarah is love Sarah is life:p Well she defo is not a shy girl, considering this is still chapter 2. It does make you wonder how far she will take her teasing if you had the option to sit down on the bed next to her, considering her fetish:p


Ok Nottravis I will bite considering the comparison in the moonlight, you know my opinion about that pic:p Great art does not depend on the means though. Some of the greatest artworks were just made with crayon and paper after-all. Yes you have every right to call yourself an artist by now and it will be a pleasure to see your growth.

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Well, I said alike. Not that they are exactly the same.:)

Still...:sneaky:
  • Notty isn't evil.
  • Sarah may well prove to be a mastermind.
  • Sarah is totes a temptress.
  • It's hard to determine what her laugh sounds like.
  • Who knows what Sarah will have for breakfast in Chapter Four, or what her favourite snacks are.:p
First is debatable, though I guess she is more playful as truly evil and may have some special ideas about rewards and punishment. :p
Second is most likely true, she is absolutely good at manipulating people when she wishes to.
No doubt, then again that is something all women in game share as well as a certain love for attention.
Might depend on the situation, she might well be cackling after you leave her after the VR game all hot and bothered. :p
Well she is welcome to share breakfast with me any time when she feels lonely or playful.
 
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Guess it is proof though Annie is just as aware as Sarah that she is very attractive and knows how to make sure to grab your attention when she wants to and where she wants that attention directed. :p
That is the proof? What about Chapter One? For me that was the best teasing I've experienced in a game at the time!:)

To be honest not sure if I would use the feature, since I kinda like the faceless MC
I can understand that. For me though that would an be awesome way to differentiate MC's with different personalities. I'd totally want the asshole MC to look different than the "me" MC. (Might add him a goatee).;)

Indeed, I guess that explains part of Notty's dislike and love for Rahrah. :p Though it is for a weird reason still my bet that it is Amanda that Notty thinks has most of herself. :p
Yep, that it does.

I bet Amanda is the one character Notty has most fun writing. I'm sure there will something from her in Amanda, but if it's more than in Sarah... We'll see.:)

Well let's hope the auto cook is at least decent and also takes into account different tastes. If just cooks for th masses the food will be likely kinda bland, like many mainstream games.
It seems it does offer a decent menu variety.

Well that describes Chris and Annie just as well and somehow I suspect Trisha, Amanda and Kelly as well, we just need to get to know them a bit better.
Well, I admit I suck at character description, so I can see why you might interpret that for others, but I would use different words to describe each of them.

Sarah is love Sarah is life:p Well she defo is not a shy girl, considering this is still chapter 2. It does make you wonder how far she will take her teasing if you had the option to sit down on the bed next to her, considering her fetish:p
She wouldn't be comfortable with that I think. She might be too excited someone is going to play with her to pay attention to how much she is showing. Or she might consider it similar to wearing bikini bottoms, so not a big deal, just a night attire.

First is debatable, though I guess she is more playful as truly evil and may have some special ideas about rewards and punishment. :p
She is not evil. She's just an excellent writer. ;)

No doubt, then again that is something all women in game share as well as a certain love for attention.
Oh yeah, most of them are. :)
 
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She wouldn't be comfortable with that I think. She might be too excited someone is going to play with her to pay attention to how much she is showing. Or she might consider it similar to wearing bikini bottoms, so not a big deal, just a night attire.
Yeah, with Sarah, sometimes you just never know what the fuck she is thinking. :ROFLMAO:
 

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That is the proof? What about Chapter One? For me that was the best teasing I've experienced in a game at the time!:)


I can understand that. For me though that would an awesome way to differentiate MC's with different personalities. I'd totally want the asshole MC to look different than the "me" MC. (Might add him a goatee).;)


Yep, that it does.

I'm bet Amanda was the one character Notty has most fun writing. I'm sure there will something from her in Amanda, but if it's more than in Sarah... We'll see.:)


It seems it does offer a decent menu variety.


Well, I admit I suck at character description, so I can see why you might interpret that for others, but I would use different words to describe each of them.


She wouldn't be comfortable with that I think. She might be too excited someone is going to play with her to pay attention to how much she is showing. Or she might consider it similar to wearing bikini bottoms, so not a big deal, just a night attire.
Agreed on the teasing in One, it also shows her playful nature though and quite a trust in MC that he will behave and has sufficient self control or is testing MC. Same with Sarah in that scene for someone she just knows one day. :p Well my take on Sarah is that she is very well aware of her charms and impact on MC, especially considering the flirting she is doing on that path. This is something where her interest is piqued and she is very much there and paying attention is my assumption. So no accidents. I may be wrong in my assumptions though of course. :p
 

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Same with Sarah in that scene for someone she just knows one day. :p Well my take on Sarah is that she is very well aware of her charms and impact on MC, especially considering the flirting she is doing on that path. This is something where her interest is piqued and she is very much there and paying attention is my assumption. So no accidents. I may be wrong in my assumptions though of course. :p
Yep, I agree Sarah's flirting is her playfulness rather than naivete. I myself do like to act in a somewhat naive or foolish manner for fun and amusement, so what she does is quite familiar to me. :)

That said, I don't think she's trying to seduce the MC though. Not until Chapter Three at any rate. Accidents were accidents, it's part of her somewhat ditzy nature. ;)
 

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Yep, I agree Sarah's flirting is her playfulness rather than naivete. I myself do like to act in a somewhat naive or foolish manner for fun and amusement, so what she does is quite familiar to me. :)

That said, I don't think she's trying to seduce the MC though. Not until Chapter Three at any rate. Accidents were accidents, it's part of her somewhat ditzy nature. ;)
Well I disagree a little, I do think she was testing the waters in chapter 1 and 2 for her own reasons. Wanting the MC to be well disposed to her, and that both Chris and Annie might even be in on that.
 

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Well I disagree a little, I do think she was testing the waters in chapter 1 and 2 for her own reasons. Wanting the MC to be well disposed to her, and that both Chris and Annie might even be in on that.
Hard to say, it could be she was trying to help keep from getting kicked out, or maybe she is just that flirty in general...
 

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Well I disagree a little, I do think she was testing the waters in chapter 1 and 2 for her own reasons. Wanting the MC to be well disposed to her, and that both Chris and Annie might even be in on that.
Well, it's what I would expect from other games, but here girls don't revolve around the MC. I think she was just friendly, because that's who she is. Unless you're Trisha, it's the MC who needs spark an interest in them.;)
 

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Evening artificial light with the lounge shutters closed

EDIT: Yes, I know we all get the joke, but Annie is over a hundred years down the line so the reference is a bit obscure by then - not to the resident perky pixie tho.

Edit, edit. Is it just me or is that skirt a little short to be playing pool?
Nah, it's just the right length if she needs some help with balls :whistle:
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If she doesn't punish me properly i'll be having strong words with her or my name isn't Th .... er .... Ava.
Not you too!? :unsure::eek:
So...I have an idea for a feature. And I want to run it past my labrats..you guys.
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I've not seen it in any adult VN so far, I think it would be a cool feature! :)
In theory it's quite easy. In theory.

But coding is my weakest area (although apparently I do some really complex stuff so make of that what you will!)
You mean like when the artwork was your weakest feature before you started the remaster? :unsure:;)
*nods nods*

It's just if I'm going to do it, now would be the time. I don't think I could face revisiting all of this again tbh!
I see what you did there! face revisiting, very good ;)
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*has got Sarah's naughty bits to outline against her knicks!*

*is pleased!*
*is equally, if not more pleased* :love:
Really fascinating how much the two of you are alike. ;)
It's not just me thinking that then? Good, good! ;)
I am nothing like that bubbleheaded pervy weirdo!
Protesting much? :whistle:;)
*ears, nose and mouth, nose and mouth* :whistle::ROFLMAO:
Tell me about it. :(


Aye, this may not be a game for the masses, but it is and will be a cult game with a dedicated following. It may be more difficult for its audience to find a way to it, but it will happen. I firmly believe that. :)
I do too! :love::)
 

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Well, it's what I would expect from other games, but here girls don't revolve around the MC. I think she was just friendly, because that's who she is. Unless you're Trisha, it's the MC who needs spark an interest in them.;)
Hard to say, it could be she was trying to help keep from getting kicked out, or maybe she is just that flirty in general...
To be honest I do not think Sarah is filthy or planning to use sex as such to get a favorable report from MC. Remember though Sarah is not a wallflower, inexperienced or shy and seems to like to flirt anyway and has an outgoing personality (well at least on the outside). Also remember that the girls mostly move in the same circles most of the time and do not seem to have found a steady relationship among those they deal with on a daily basis. MC is a fresh face to them and seems to be reasonably attractive and competent, so it is only natural there is some interest within the girls as well to get to know him. Now if Sarah can get MC to like her she can see that as a bonus and him more likely to give her a favorable report if she can impress him. So I think it is a bit of both.

On a side note thinking also about the remark from Notty that the bad routes have not even started a while ago. :p The only reason bad MC needs to resort to the means he uses to spend time with Sarah is because his personality and the way he acts rubs her the wrong way and could way more easily get his way and information on her when acting more friendly. Would it indeed not make way more sense for a devious bad MC that is competent to charm the pants of the women and trying to get to know them better in a charming and friendly seeming way, before trying to put his claws into them?

Edit: Also not sure if this is important or not, but the blackmail option information turns up in your PDA, whether you behave as Mr officer with a stick rammed up his arse or the more friendly flirting MC. So will it be an option also for a more charming devious MC to make use of that tidbit.
 
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