Your big pledge wasn't even for the full chapter, though, was it? It was for one month of development. He only has about half of the renders done for v.02 so you would need to give him another $800 this month to finish V 0.2 and then another lets say $1,600 for the next two months for V.03. Good on you for having that much money to give but do you plan on giving $800 every month to support a game that almost no one is pledging to?
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Chapter 2 is guaranteed. The timing of it is not. I will make sure that Chapter 3 will be guaranteed also. Just would be nice if people helped out more so that I can make sure this gets finished. My budget for supporting creators a month is $200. This puts me way over budget and also makes me drop my support to others to the bare minimum. The more others can pick up the slack the more I can help someone else get going on their AVN. People don't want to help because they think that it won't be continued. I'm trying to let people know that I won't let happen at least short term that way people can have faith until he gets enough. We will see in late Oct where things stand to see if I can continue to fund the difference.
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I mean he said today that if support doesn't raise he will have to take another project for the month. You've probably discussed it with him but his post today didn't seem like he was gonna continue working on it this month unless he got another big money pledge. I'll never support the dev cause I think he's a knob but good on you. I just don't believe he'll ever see an increase in patreons. Even with your pledge last month he never saw the huge increase in pledges and as soon as yours stopped showing, he actually lost even more.
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People get frustrated. It's understandable. It's easy to make a quick judgement. I don't know him at all. I just liked what I had seen so far. Ocean is the only one that I think is on par for the quality of what he is doing. However Ocean has plenty of support. I won't get into on how many creators are way overfunded for a way worse product. There is one that makes almost a million a year with hardly any updates and not even close to the same quality of work. I will never understand how the inequality of funding is in the AVN world.
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I'd rather give my hard earned money to someone who enjoys working on their game, this guy clearly doesn't.
Just wanted to respond to this since you edited it after I had already replied to it. People wouldn't think the game wasn't going to be continued if the Dev wouldn't threaten to quit working on the game all the time and hadn't already abandoned his previous game for lack of support. He didn't give it a month of the first release of this game before he was already threatening to quit if he didn't get the money. People obviously do not want to give him their money or he would have seen some increase last month when you gave him $800. That didn't happen and he actually went from $320ish to $267. So you giving him 4 times your budget didn't help him at all.
You might think the game is great but almost everyone on this thread is in agreement that the game is good but the developer is shit at marketing. That's not gonna get better. I wish I had $800 every month to waste. So many other developers who actually want to work on their game could use that money.
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I'm used to dealing with people of all different personality types and different areas of the US. Most New Yorkers seem like complete assholes until you get to know them better. I just have a different perspective on people because of that.
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Played "Driven Affairs" already and liked it quite a bit.... Yah I am taking a lot of risk, guess we will have to see what happens. Who knows I may not even like what happens next in the story. However I will keep my word and at least help fund the next chapter as well.
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I think that this is a good game that deserves more support than it gets, but I also understand why many people are reluctant to support it given what happened with Primal Instinct. The Dev needs to not focus on the support that they are not getting and keep their word to those that do support them. Games of this type sometimes need to be made as a loss leader... in other words build the game and the following will come. The next game will be profitable once people see what you did with the first one. If you abandoned the last one, people will assume you will leave them hanging again. If they had kept working on the previous game I have no doubt that the monthly support would be double or even triple what it is right now. I also wouldn't be surprised to see a jump in support if there was another update to PI. The story was just getting good. This project shows promise but without an update it too will continue to suffer from waning support. Meanwhile, projects that have been fallow for much longer continue to be fully funded based on nothing but Patreon inertia. Because the work 6 months or a year ago was impressive. It isn't fair, but it's reality.
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Silk&Milk Productions? Well at least we know what the milk stands for here. Kinda sad that someone is still throwing money at this asshole. 
If this guy did his work without all this bs, he would have got the same support as Ocean or even more.
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He failed with the first game and now tries the same thing with another game, this guy literally expects to make a living from a fresh made game? he's delusional, why he doesn't go to work if he wants so much money? no matter how good his game is, he can't expect to make 1000$ right from the start.
No sane person would throw that much money on him, and besides, he keeps raising the stakes with every update that comes so he doesn't give a fuck for the people who supports him.
Stop wasting money on this guy, it's not worth it, like i said he will keep raising the stakes for every update because he's hungry for money and you shouldn't ask for people to support him as well, because he doesn't deserve to be supported.
Also this second game doesn't have the same good dialogue that the first game had, this game is just for renders and that's it but the first one was much more better in terms of story and dialogue overall.
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It looks like you were right. I definitely misunderstood our conversations. While my expectation was for .2 to be done with my donation. His expectation was just for the month of Sept. So he is only at .2.5... So ... yah
Dang, that sucks man. I figured that was going to be the case, though, since he's been pretty transparent about him needing a certain amount of money EVERY month for him to keep working on it.
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I can not invest in someone not determined to finish his project. There are so many hardworking devs out there.
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Well I did specifically ask how much would it take to get chapter 2 done. However just like all communication what one says does not mean that the other person understood.
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That's the thing too, on his page it says a certain dollar amount would get a chapter done, while I was thinking total dollars he is talking per month and no where does it say how long he expects a chapter to take. The way it is worded it made me think it would only take a month for each chapter.
CURRENT PROJECT: HEIR APPARENT
Subsequent pledges during the first half of the month will be tallied.
Roadmap:v.01 $600 = 1 month of production.
v.02 $1200 = 1 month of production.
v.03 $1600 = 1 month of production.
v.04 - until completion $2000 = 1 month production.
To clarify, if support is only $300 a month for v.01, I will spend 15 days of that month on the project.
INSUFFICIENT INTEREST IN THE PROJECT WILL RESULT IN IT'S CANCELLATION.
Current hardware allows me to do 150 - 180 renders a month at full capacity.
Always take into account that my workload depends on my full-time job and other factors, ie; complexity of scenes, unforeseen real life issues etc.
150 - 180 renders a month was the average I was able to produce on my previous project at full capacity.
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His demands can be considered only as a joke.
Eeh, at this point every time I see a new game coming out with renders like that, or just good renders in general, I don't get excited anymore Too many of these devs eat up that cash and once they get enough they just don't care anymore and abandon whatever work they were doing. Or they just get lazy. Don't have hopes for games to be finished at this point. I'm just waiting to see the "abandoned" tag after a couple of updates.
Too many of these devs eat up that cash and once they get enough they just don't care anymore and abandon whatever work they were doing. Or they just get lazy. Don't have hopes for games to be finished at this point. I'm just waiting to see the "abandoned" tag after a couple of updates.