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Just added the updated link. So I am assuming you got the old one.
I DL'd it before I wrote it, added to the game. Then I started new Win game and got stuck on loop in bathroom.
I guess I need to reDL the game. Here is my save in bathroom.
 

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I DL'd it before I wrote it, added to the game. Then I started new Win game and got stuck on loop in bathroom.
I guess I need to reDL the game. Here is my save in bathroom.
It's not letting me load your save? IDK how to use other ppls saves apparently... Though Hm... the only time I remember people in the game ever being in the bathroom.... The public bathroom in chapter 2 with Kishimoto and Misaki, Misaki in the beach bathroom at chapter 3, Misaki showing with kishimoto in chapter 3, Ryou and Rumi in the shower together in chapter 7, Misaki in the bathroom at the end of chapter 8, and misaki in the bathroom at the beginning of chapter 9...... Not bad I think that may be all of them. OHHH also during the older chapters I was trying to figure out how I liked to use the image buttons. So I was toying with how to get the player to read the story in the proper order at least the first time through the story. you know so it made sense and was coherent. Later I switched to just making them say the same line no matter what angle you were looking at as long as you didnt change the speed makes it easier to follow that way. But yea. Make sure if there is no arrows on the right of your screen follow the animations through to the end. As in speed up speed up cum then the arrows should appear. You may not be stuck that is literally how its coded if your on chapter 2. One of these days I will go back and fix that. When you get to the second half of chapter 8 you will see how I changed away from the image buttons and just went with text in a framed box in the corner. Its easier for me to code, and easier for the player to see and know what to click.
 
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What's the point of continuing with this story, it's funny that we have the option of whether the Slut accepts the phone call or not, then she makes the ridiculous scene of being sorry, she apologizes to Ryu, but when she goes to the club because she was sent away by Ryu to be alone, The sad bitch, she fucks all the boys in the cico, hahahah, come on, that's rubbish, now she's a future pregnant whore from the BBC, hahahah, so she's getting married to the BBC, I was a fan of Ryu for his strength and love to accept everything, it's what the slut does to him, she snubs him, she gets pregnant, she fucks 5 guys after sex, it wasn't a free relationship, it's not even a good story with this update, Force Ryu's will, to death slut. who was also raped in the beginning, the other girls are better than her, what a bad update.
 
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It's not letting me load your save? IDK how to use other ppls saves apparently... Though Hm... the only time I remember people in the game ever being in the bathroom.... The public bathroom in chapter 2 with Kishimoto and Misaki, Misaki in the beach bathroom at chapter 3, Misaki showing with kishimoto in chapter 3, Ryou and Rumi in the shower together in chapter 7, Misaki in the bathroom at the end of chapter 8, and misaki in the bathroom at the beginning of chapter 9...... Not bad I think that may be all of them. OHHH also during the older chapters I was trying to figure out how I liked to use the image buttons. So I was toying with how to get the player to read the story in the proper order at least the first time through the story. you know so it made sense and was coherent. Later I switched to just making them say the same line no matter what angle you were looking at as long as you didnt change the speed makes it easier to follow that way. But yea. Make sure if there is no arrows on the right of your screen follow the animations through to the end. As in speed up speed up cum then the arrows should appear. You may not be stuck that is literally how its coded if your on chapter 2. One of these days I will go back and fix that. When you get to the second half of chapter 8 you will see how I changed away from the image buttons and just went with text in a framed box in the corner. Its easier for me to code, and easier for the player to see and know what to click.
I deleted the Log and Save folders to clear any flags. I just got home and have a bunch of updates pending.
It was a public bathroom stall with the 2 main characters. They've had sex multiple times since initial rape. Can't remember details beyond that.
Usually, just drop save in save folder. It may be flawed because I used the old script.rpa with old DL.
 

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I deleted the Log and Save folders to clear any flags. I just got home and have a bunch of updates pending.
It was a public bathroom stall with the 2 main characters. They've had sex multiple times since initial rape. Can't remember details beyond that.
Usually, just drop save in save folder. It may be flawed because I used the old script.rpa with old DL.
I would guess it was during chapter 2. Misaki gives Kishimoto a BJ in a public stall in that one.
 
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Still stuck in same location. Click dude on bottom just cycles, nothing advances. This is the DL for Win after you reuploaded it with fresh start.

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Still stuck in same location. Click dude on bottom just cycles, nothing advances. This is the DL for Win after you reuploaded it with fresh start.

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Yup I mentioned that earlier. Click the rabbit, a couple of times till the cum symbol appears. Then the arrows to move on will appear above Kishimotos head. Thats an thing from way back in chapter 2 that I made when I did the remakes and just never had time to fix it. We are talking about like almost a year ago now lol. I need to change those chapters to just use the text box version like I do in later chapters. I thought it was cool originally to use a Rabbit to mean speed up, and a turtle for slow down. But I was also trying to make it so players would go through the motions of start>speed up>Speed up>Cum> Next Position
It was because the story dialogue only made sense at the time if it was in order. Ichanged how I do those in later chapters though. so you should have anyissues with it past this scene.
 

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Yup I mentioned that earlier. Click the rabbit, a couple of times till the cum symbol appears. Then the arrows to move on will appear above Kishimotos head. Thats an thing from way back in chapter 2 that I made when I did the remakes and just never had time to fix it. We are talking about like almost a year ago now lol. I need to change those chapters to just use the text box version like I do in later chapters. I thought it was cool originally to use a Rabbit to mean speed up, and a turtle for slow down. But I was also trying to make it so players would go through the motions of start>speed up>Speed up>Cum> Next Position
It was because the story dialogue only made sense at the time if it was in order. Ichanged how I do those in later chapters though. so you should have anyissues with it past this scene.
I thought rabbit meant "Get Pregnant" as blood meant "Break Hymen".
 

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I thought rabbit meant "Get Pregnant" as blood meant "Break Hymen".
Lol no. I went through a phase of using what I thought would be easy to understand symbols. Like clicking the phone pn the top right changes the camera angle. I started doing it during chapter 7. After I released chapter 7 I went back and remade chapters 1 and 2 using that same format. never got around to chapters 3-6, and then from the second half of chapter 8 I started just using boxes like this.
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Though you wont find that image in the version of the game you have as it is from chapter 9 part 1 - Route B
 

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Lol no. I went through a phase of using what I thought would be easy to understand symbols. Like clicking the phone pn the top right changes the camera angle. I started doing it during chapter 7. After I released chapter 7 I went back and remade chapters 1 and 2 using that same format. never got around to chapters 3-6, and then from the second half of chapter 8 I started just using boxes like this.
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Though you wont find that image in the version of the game you have as it is from chapter 9 part 1 - Route B
In America a rabbit is a reference for pregnancy. An old medical test... " The rabbit test became a widely used bioassay (animal-based test) to test for pregnancy. The term "rabbit test" was first recorded in 1949, and was the origin of a common euphemism, "the rabbit died", for a positive pregnancy test. The phrase was, in fact, based on a common misconception about the test." Thus the confusion.
 

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From everything I am reading this game doesn't really do much at all. I understand that the dev says the BF isn't the MC but that's a big mistake because clearly this is an NTR game. BF is basically a useless character with the same typically small dick size because ntr devs have no idea how to make a weak mc besides dick size. But it's okay the dev says there is no rape but why still having the rape scene in the game.
 

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In America a rabbit is a reference for pregnancy. An old medical test... " The rabbit test became a widely used bioassay (animal-based test) to test for pregnancy. The term "rabbit test" was first recorded in 1949, and was the origin of a common euphemism, "the rabbit died", for a positive pregnancy test. The phrase was, in fact, based on a common misconception about the test." Thus the confusion.
I am also American. lol I was more referencing the tortoise and the hare with that vibe. Like Yea fucking like rabbits I get that too, just figured when people saw the too together they would be like ahh turtle go slow rabbit go fast. Lol

From everything I am reading this game doesn't really do much at all. I understand that the dev says the BF isn't the MC but that's a big mistake because clearly this is an NTR game. BF is basically a useless character with the same typically small dick size because ntr devs have no idea how to make a weak mc besides dick size. But it's okay the dev says there is no rape but why still having the rape scene in the game.
There are aspects to the dick size thing I wont try and say that doesnt come up at all. But as that was something that the original author had in the story, Hm...How do I explain it. While I animated everything in this game. Chapters 1-5 I had nothing to do with the writing. So what the Original Author had I did not change, aside from the times I felt it went too far. Which is all stuff you would know already if you read through some of my replies to people on this page. Now again chapter 1 is the Original Author Rape was used as a tool to START to story with. It never comes up again. I tried removing the rape scene by just adjusting dialogue and not actually remaking any visuals, which is why it's halfassed (Optional). Also the original author brought up dick size in chapter 3. If you read the original work you would notice that was when I started deviating from the original work. I wanted to have more character growth, I wanted it not to feel so one sided, So in chapter 3 its brought up that Ryou is still and has been for years now, cheating on Misaki. Which gets brought back up again as soon as I fully took the reigns of the story in chapter 6. That was when the game made the transition from basic every other NTR story to more of a Swinging/Sharing story. While also trying to make the main motif of the story be all about how far Misaki is willing to go to get off. Now I don't mean this in any way to sound defensive or disrespectful to you. When people comment things like what you just did it only goes to show me that either
1. You havent been reading the game at all. Or
2. You didn't get very far in the story. and
3. You did not use the chapter select correctly. As I have told many people if your someone that has any issues at all with rape skip to chapter 2 start the game from there.
But yea, I think that about covers everything? Like I said I wasn't trying to piss you off or upset you just trying to get all the facts straight. Maybe things you didn't know about. While at the same time running a little test of my own to see which category you fall into.
 
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What exactly is the point of the term visual NOVEL if it devolves into a video porno with borderline no writing?
Would that not be why it is tagged as a Kinetic VN? Then again yea as my first attempt ever at writing anything it's not the greatest. As long as I improve with each release even if it's 0.01% better that is still a win in my book. Also apologies for the late reply. I have been very busy as I am working on 2 games at once now. I am currently writing the second part to chapter 9. If you would be interested I can share the script ideas with you and you could help me with understanding how to write it better. Unless your comment was more meant as a "blah this game is trash" and not as a "I would like to see it improve". Either way it is what it is I guess. I do hope you will try chapter 9 part 1 when it is released publicly in 2 weeks. Or maybe try the Mushoku Harem game I am making and let me know what you think about the writing in that?
 

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Why do you call it a game or VN, I only see a kinetic video, we have an important choice, which is found in chapter 8, whether to answer the phone or not, now dear Dev, one thing I would like to understand, if I can, in the chapter you start with her who gets caught fucking, and the boy wants to leave her, then she does everything to make it up to the boy, but absolutely everything, she cries etc, now I ask, how can it be that two days later, MC cheats on the boy, leaving him alone while she fucks the two Americans in the VIP room, and then she also wants to justify herself to the boy for not having responded, she is left, it's all normal for her today, she goes to the club and fucks all the guys because of her depression, it was so much more right then, finish the story earlier, rather than waste your time on something that then happens immediately afterwards, what motivation did you have, first you decide that MC is in love with the boy, even if it's funny to say in love, then two days are enough for the boy is thrown in the garbage. there is no logic, two days cannot transform such a love into such shit, I understand lust, wanting more and more sex, but why then create this hole in time, which if we want, now practically the game is no longer an NTR, it remains just MC fucking all the dicks in town, the guy disappeared, so it became a female harem, MC collects cocks and boys, that's all.
 

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Why do you call it a game or VN, I only see a kinetic video, we have an important choice, which is found in chapter 8, whether to answer the phone or not, now dear Dev, one thing I would like to understand, if I can, in the chapter you start with her who gets caught fucking, and the boy wants to leave her, then she does everything to make it up to the boy, but absolutely everything, she cries etc, now I ask, how can it be that two days later, MC cheats on the boy, leaving him alone while she fucks the two Americans in the VIP room, and then she also wants to justify herself to the boy for not having responded, she is left, it's all normal for her today, she goes to the club and fucks all the guys because of her depression, it was so much more right then, finish the story earlier, rather than waste your time on something that then happens immediately afterwards, what motivation did you have, first you decide that MC is in love with the boy, even if it's funny to say in love, then two days are enough for the boy is thrown in the garbage. there is no logic, two days cannot transform such a love into such shit, I understand lust, wanting more and more sex, but why then create this hole in time, which if we want, now practically the game is no longer an NTR, it remains just MC fucking all the dicks in town, the guy disappeared, so it became a female harem, MC collects cocks and boys, that's all.
Hmm.. Well the idea is that she didn't cheat as they went to a swingers club with the intention of having sex with different people. For context, I am assuming you did not read it in one of my other posts. But the first 5 chapters of the story are pulled straight from a Doujin. I personally did not like how far the story was going so I wanted to pull it back and try to make more depth to the characters. So I committed to creating 5 more chapters. With 3 different endings so the player can choose how the game ends. I already have the ending planned out if your curious the 3 endings are essentially
Personally I am all good with sharing and even lighter forms of NTR but the humiliation cuckold sissification thing doesn't do it for me so I can't even begin to write that well. Also the troupe of "girl cheats on bf because bf has a small cock and sits there watching while cumming in his pants" has gotten way to overused and it's a boring ending to a story in my opinion. Though just a btw there are more choices coming the main reason I was avoiding them before is because I am not a fan of when a dev does the whole route thing generally. Because it almost always goes 1 of 2 ways. 1. You get 2mins of content on all routes each update. 2. You get 10 minutes of content to one route (generally the one your not interested in) for a couple updates in a row. Either way the games generally feel like they get dragged out way too long. I had a breakdown my first time working on this game and I stepped away from it for 6 months. Otherwise it would be done by now. The game as it stands has 5 parts left to be released. So typically that would mean 10 weeks as I released an update bi-weekly. But as I am now working on 2 games at once I swap 2 weeks on one game and then 2 weeks on the next. (It helps with getting to burnt out) But that means this game will be done in 5 months. Though also I plan to make an update after the story is done to add things like a Gallery and audio to the earlier chapters. Then I could also do things like remake some of the earlier chapters though idk if I want to do that at this point. I am eager to finish this game as soon as possible so I can start working on my 3rd game which as of yet I have no idea what its going to be about, what engine it will be made in, what tags it will have, or anything other than the fact that I will either A be using Honey Select for it. Or B I will be learning how to use Daz and using that for it. Because I want to make something that has less cartoony visuals. Each game I make is meant to be a chance to get better I want to improve with each one. So in the long run this game will more than likely be the worst game I have ever made. But I also would never want to erase it or anything because it was a good learning experience. I had no clue how to code before starting this game thats what the first 5 chapters were for, the next 5 chapters are about learning how to tell a story. My second game is for getting much better at coding and coding something outside of my safe zone which is why I am making a sandbox game with an rpg battle system. Though dear god the coding issues I have been slamming my head against are so frustrating sometimes. I need to get a rubber duck apparently.
 

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Hmm.. Well the idea is that she didn't cheat as they went to a swingers club with the intention of having sex with different people. For context, I am assuming you did not read it in one of my other posts. But the first 5 chapters of the story are pulled straight from a Doujin. I personally did not like how far the story was going so I wanted to pull it back and try to make more depth to the characters. So I committed to creating 5 more chapters. With 3 different endings so the player can choose how the game ends. I already have the ending planned out if your curious the 3 endings are essentially
Personally I am all good with sharing and even lighter forms of NTR but the humiliation cuckold sissification thing doesn't do it for me so I can't even begin to write that well. Also the troupe of "girl cheats on bf because bf has a small cock and sits there watching while cumming in his pants" has gotten way to overused and it's a boring ending to a story in my opinion. Though just a btw there are more choices coming the main reason I was avoiding them before is because I am not a fan of when a dev does the whole route thing generally. Because it almost always goes 1 of 2 ways. 1. You get 2mins of content on all routes each update. 2. You get 10 minutes of content to one route (generally the one your not interested in) for a couple updates in a row. Either way the games generally feel like they get dragged out way too long. I had a breakdown my first time working on this game and I stepped away from it for 6 months. Otherwise it would be done by now. The game as it stands has 5 parts left to be released. So typically that would mean 10 weeks as I released an update bi-weekly. But as I am now working on 2 games at once I swap 2 weeks on one game and then 2 weeks on the next. (It helps with getting to burnt out) But that means this game will be done in 5 months. Though also I plan to make an update after the story is done to add things like a Gallery and audio to the earlier chapters. Then I could also do things like remake some of the earlier chapters though idk if I want to do that at this point. I am eager to finish this game as soon as possible so I can start working on my 3rd game which as of yet I have no idea what its going to be about, what engine it will be made in, what tags it will have, or anything other than the fact that I will either A be using Honey Select for it. Or B I will be learning how to use Daz and using that for it. Because I want to make something that has less cartoony visuals. Each game I make is meant to be a chance to get better I want to improve with each one. So in the long run this game will more than likely be the worst game I have ever made. But I also would never want to erase it or anything because it was a good learning experience. I had no clue how to code before starting this game thats what the first 5 chapters were for, the next 5 chapters are about learning how to tell a story. My second game is for getting much better at coding and coding something outside of my safe zone which is why I am making a sandbox game with an rpg battle system. Though dear god the coding issues I have been slamming my head against are so frustrating sometimes. I need to get a rubber duck apparently.








I thank you for your kindness and willingness to respond, I agree with you on many things, no one can deny that unfortunately NTRs have now become flat, they always have the same pattern, that's why I made this criticism, not to offend, but precisely because you created a boy who has character, not a usual loser, it's the game, even with very small errors, but we all learn from our mistakes, it was well done, for my criticism, it was just, which turns at the end, if separation was also foreseen, it wasn't better for you, giving the option earlier, you would have saved something on the plot, it's normal for me to notice this hole in the story, because too little time passes, from the two fights, I distinguish her lust, with love for the boy, but even there, you see there is too much lascivious freedom, they are now part of the club, they must, I think, have a basis of rules, or what's the point of having a club, if you then make the rules to your liking, I apologize for the My English is not my mother tongue
 

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I thank you for your kindness and willingness to respond, I agree with you on many things, no one can deny that unfortunately NTRs have now become flat, they always have the same pattern, that's why I made this criticism, not to offend, but precisely because you created a boy who has character, not a usual loser, it's the game, even with very small errors, but we all learn from our mistakes, it was well done, for my criticism, it was just, which turns at the end, if separation was also foreseen, it wasn't better for you, giving the option earlier, you would have saved something on the plot, it's normal for me to notice this hole in the story, because too little time passes, from the two fights, I distinguish her lust, with love for the boy, but even there, you see there is too much lascivious freedom, they are now part of the club, they must, I think, have a basis of rules, or what's the point of having a club, if you then make the rules to your liking, I apologize for the My English is not my mother tongue
I am not sure if the original author of the first 5 chapters will ever release anything else for this story. But if you have read the original manga/doujin you would notice that there were some slight changes I made to try to spice things up a bit. Like in chapter 3 originally There was little to no interaction between Kishimoto and Ryou. Also Ryou did not do anything with Kashi in chapter 3 at all. In fact she didn't even have a name in the source material and was only there during the beach scene. I wanted to make it more like no character was right or good. Because in the source material ryou is a clueless bf that follow the standard NTR thing WAY to much. He just gets cheated on the entire time. So I added a few scenes to chapter 3. I also refused to animate the original ending to chapter 5. The original ending had Kishimoto fucking Misaki doggy style above a drugged drunk and unconcious Ryou and after he came inside Misaki he pulls his dick out and sprays the cum on Ryous face and thats just where the story ends. I thought that scene went way to far for my liking so I refused to make that last part. I also wanted to bring Ryou into the circle so that he could be less of a clueless boyfriend type and actually get in on the action. Though it's obvious while is agreeing to it all he clearly does not really like it. Which I try to show by when he is having sex in the circle he keeps looking at Misaki. Because he is trying to figure out what he really wants. OH I also changed his penis size. I originally had it the size it was in the manga but since that was the same small dick troupe I wanted to make him at least nearly the same size as everyone else. During chapter 9 I have some of the girls even saying that he is better in bed now than most of the other guys there because he is learning and trying to get better. I have been adding that stuff to make it more believable when it comes to the true love ending. As Misaki really wont need anyone else by the end.

Also no worries I don't judge people based on not knowing a language well imagine me trying to type in Russian I would only know words like vodka. So clearly your doing better than I am. I actually have a couple of my russian friends working on a russian translation for my other game. So if you like the harem genre you may want to check that one out.
 
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