TwiztidSinX

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I read the reason for the remake, but still unclear if only Ch 1-2 are being remade or all chapters will eventually be brought to same level, as that means don't play past Ch 2 so saves will still work in future. The worst thing is finding time to replay an entire game every update and never getting past the same point. Eventually the game is so far past where you were a year or 3 earlier, that its just not worth playing until completed.
Eventually all chapters will be remade, but the remakes are not really changing the story at all. Just adding extra camera angles and the ability to adjust speeds and whatnot. Honestly not very important stuff. Chapters 1 and 2 needed remade because of how terrible the quality was back when I made them. As a side note though the entire reason I added the chapter select function was to ensure that even if I messed something up that bugged a save you could easily get back to where you were in the game with little to no progress loss. But I wouldnt worry about the remake chapters as remaking chapters 3-7 are not really a priority for me at the moment. The current gameplan is to finish chapters 8-10 then decide if I want to keep going with this game and make alternate paths, start an entirely new ntr free story, make a game in unity/rpgm, use honeyselect 2 or learn to use DAZ or Blender. Like I have a lot of branching paths in front of me that I want to learn so the remakes for unneeded chapters especially when the discord community already voted against me focusing on them they really are not something I can see myself doing anytime soon. The only thing I plan to go back to old chapters for at this point is to add music and sex noises once I learn how to do that. As I stated in a post a few months or so ago, this is my first game and its all about the learning experience for me. I am eager to learn as much as I can as fast as possible to figure out what style I like making games in and what medium I prefer using, for example I prefer the look of blender/daz models but I don't see a preset animation thing on those platforms which is what makes Koikatsu so new user friendly which is why I have been debating using HS2 as it looks more realistic than KKS not as good as daz but it still has preset animations. Though when I play with HS2 there are alot of clipping issues and overall just janky looking models at times. I like the idea of moving around a world while playing which is making me look to unity for my next game but at the same time that seems way harder to learn than rpgm. Sorry I kinda just let my mind wander and just typed it all, I ended up typing out an essay for you. Though yea that's how my brain works sometimes. TL:DR I wouldnt stress the remakes as I have no intention of doing any more remakes until after the main story is already done. And all new chapters are made in the "Remake" style so once you get to chapter 7 its all the same.
 

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Eventually all chapters will be remade, but the remakes are not really changing the story at all. Just adding extra camera angles and the ability to adjust speeds and whatnot. Honestly not very important stuff. Chapters 1 and 2 needed remade because of how terrible the quality was back when I made them. As a side note though the entire reason I added the chapter select function was to ensure that even if I messed something up that bugged a save you could easily get back to where you were in the game with little to no progress loss. But I wouldnt worry about the remake chapters as remaking chapters 3-7 are not really a priority for me at the moment. The current gameplan is to finish chapters 8-10 then decide if I want to keep going with this game and make alternate paths, start an entirely new ntr free story, make a game in unity/rpgm, use honeyselect 2 or learn to use DAZ or Blender. Like I have a lot of branching paths in front of me that I want to learn so the remakes for unneeded chapters especially when the discord community already voted against me focusing on them they really are not something I can see myself doing anytime soon. The only thing I plan to go back to old chapters for at this point is to add music and sex noises once I learn how to do that. As I stated in a post a few months or so ago, this is my first game and its all about the learning experience for me. I am eager to learn as much as I can as fast as possible to figure out what style I like making games in and what medium I prefer using, for example I prefer the look of blender/daz models but I don't see a preset animation thing on those platforms which is what makes Koikatsu so new user friendly which is why I have been debating using HS2 as it looks more realistic than KKS not as good as daz but it still has preset animations. Though when I play with HS2 there are alot of clipping issues and overall just janky looking models at times. I like the idea of moving around a world while playing which is making me look to unity for my next game but at the same time that seems way harder to learn than rpgm. Sorry I kinda just let my mind wander and just typed it all, I ended up typing out an essay for you. Though yea that's how my brain works sometimes. TL:DR I wouldnt stress the remakes as I have no intention of doing any more remakes until after the main story is already done. And all new chapters are made in the "Remake" style so once you get to chapter 7 its all the same.
OK, lots of info. First, check the other forums here for advice and assets. Daz seems to be easy to use, most of the model software works the same, I started on Macromedia over 20 years ago, just very rusty. I have a DAZ account, but never have time to play there. Blender was clunky last time I looked, but if you can write code you can enhance anything there.
As for engines, if you want the widest audience accesss RenPy is easiest to make non-PC versions, giving you more users.
I like the chapter set up. One note, at the end of the last chapter one can accidentally skip to main menu without a frame to tell you to save, usually a button will stop you from losing that chapter, and you would just add new content before it.
Further, there are thousands of Dev's here, some reluctantly, but many will answer questions of how to do something using the various softwares. Find a game that uses the engine or animation you want and ask a question. The clipping issue has been mentioned by several modders that have found ways to fix it. Not sure which software was involved or the solution of adding an empty frame after every frame in the animation was only for a specific software.
Lots more than just pirated games and comics here.
 

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The tags are actually correct. Try playing the rest of the game its an evolving story it starts with rape in chapter 1 blackmail in chapter 2, cheating in chapters 3,4,and 5, chapters 6+ change it from cheating to swinging.
It's Look Great. Actually This NTR Story Kinda Like Stories in NTR Hentai.
At NTR Hentai Porn, Some Old Guy or Bad Guy Rape and Blackmail A Girl Behind back Her BF or Lover. And At Last, Girl Get Sex Addict to That.
This Game Kinda Similar NTR Hentai. And I'm A Big Fan of NTR Hentai. So It's Great Game.
 
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Chapter 2, where Misaki is getting it from behind in the dark bricked room (the shower maybe?) from Kishimoto, there is no way to escape the scene unless, and it's completely unapparent, you click on the rabbit (which is hard to see) and then click on the cum spot.
 

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So this is going to be a long message and essentially explaining what happened with the game over the last few months. If you don't care/want to know the TL:DR is I am working on Her Fall again.

The full story,
I was extremely burnt out from working all day everyday on the game so it was effecting my mental state as it was, then after losing the only patrons that I had that was a serious blow to my motivation. Combined with getting back to back to back poor reviews here on f95zone, and all the hate comments I was receiving on there. Then there was the whole thing with needing to sort through 24,000 audio clips and renaming them and editing them to make my own clips, then the fact that chapter 8 was already scripted to be the largest update to the game so far with over 2000 lines of dialogue hundreds of animations and over 10 different full scenes. The entire scope of it was very overwhelming. I was just like you know what fuck it. Why am I wasting my time on making something everyone seems to hate anyways. I then went on to drop the entire ren'py idea as a whole and just went back to playing PC games, I played around with Genshin and HSR private servers for a bit, and just hung out with friends a lot. After some of my friends kept asking why I haven't been working on Her Fall for the last few weeks, and seeing some actual nice comments on lately. I decided the least I can do is finish this game since that will allow me to move on to another game that a wider variety of players may be into so I hopefully get less hate comments. Since I already had the bulletpoint list for chapters 9 and 10 planned out, and had the entire script done for chapter 8 already, I decided to get back to work on it. I was debating slipping chapter 8 into 2 updates so that I could get something out sooner but after looking at the script overall I can't find a good enough "Halfway" point to separate it into 2 releases. Currently I have all the renders and animations done for the first 300 lines of the script, There are 1000 lines of script. The bulletpoint of chapter 8 is


- Misaki's apartment, Misaki Akari and Rumi talk about going to a swingers club and get Ryou to agree to go by promising him they will find him a chick there.


- At the swingers club, After sitting down Mike (From Chapter 5) spots the group sitting down and comes over to say hi. Misaki did not tell Ryou about the night with Mike and Bob when she came clean to him about everything. Not knowing this Mike starts shit with Ryou. Ryou quickly gets pulled away from the situation by Rumi.


- Rumi talks to Ryou about picking up chicks and finds a girl to talk to for him.


- Misaki gets shitty with Mike, he mentions Bob is also there waiting in a VIP room, Akari decides they should go hang out with them.


- Ryou starts having a good time with the mysterious new girl and Rumi. When someone comes over and asks to join in.


- Misaki, Akari, Bob, and Mike all have a talk and Mike gets shit for his actions earlier.
They all decide they might as well have fun to.


- (This is where I am currently for getting Renders) Kishimoto has a talk with a new potential girl that needs her interview for joining The Circle,
Kishimoto learns he may be into chicks that like to be in control more than he thought he was.
Stuff happens... Obviously....


- We cut back to the Swingers Club and check in on Misaki's Group and Rumi's Group
Which is where the first true game changing choice takes place, Which I will be making sure to add a SAVE HERE kind of message so you can experience both routes. If Misaki Answers her phone Ryou joins the party with them. If she chooses not to there is a huge fight when the night is over which leads to Misaki and Ryou splitting up permanently.


- Both routes end the chapter in almost the same way with an orgy scene at The Circle with the a new girl joining in and getting her Debut like Misaki did in chapter 4.



I still need to do nearly all of the audio clips I was debating doing the audio clips as soon as I finished the Kishimoto section and release that as the halfway point. But I decided that wouldn't leave enough story for the second update. I have said before I am not a fan of doing updates like some games do, where each update is only a fuck load of dialogue and 1 or 2 at the max sex scenes. The way I see it let me know if I am wrong here but the idea of these games is to play it to get yourself off. So while the dialogue is good to get yourself in the mood you dont want to spend hours trying to get to the point that you have your idk how to put it... me time...climax....? IDK but you know what I mean. Which is why I try to keep the story decently interesting but also fast paced enough that you "Enjoy" Each update at least once.
Let me know what you think, should I wait to finish chapter 8 or where do you think is a good point to do a release?

Just an FYI for chapters 9 and 10 they will be released in MANY updates since the story is branching with chapter 8. I already am planning to switch to the "Normal" way of doing releases that I don't enjoy doing. But since I will literally need to make 2 full completely different chapters for each chapter my plan is to do releases for each bulletpoint. In a format like Chapter 9.1, Chapter 9.2 so on and so forth. Obviously when I do release chapter 8 I could also do that now too and release it in that same style if I see enough people asking for it I will do it. If I don't see people asking for it then I will operate under the assumption you want to keep things as they are and would rather wait for the update. Also Patrons will obviously get the updates 2 weeks early even If I don't have any patrons, it is the best way so that I can get a bit of content built up again to try to avoid the whole getting burnt out thing again.
 

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TwiztidSinX checking your patron shows only information on your new other project. Any news on how chapter 8 is coming along for Her Fall?
Actually kinda glad someone brought that up. I have been seriously debating slowing the pace of the other project. Originally I wanted to have the other project ready for its initial launch when I released chapter 10 (Final Chapter) of Her Fall. But with all the attention MH has been getting lately I just keep plugging away on that. But I also know that there is still a community for Her Fall so I have been wanting to get chapter 8 finished for that, and get started on the script and stuff for chapter 9. Heres the plan I literally thought of not even 20 minutes ago, while I was finishing up the dates for MH: Starting tomorrow I am going to spend the entirety of next week, finishing up chapter 8 of Her Fall so it's ready to go up on the Patreon hopefully by friday cus lets be real that game does not require anywhere near as much coding as MH does. As MH is more of a sandbox game and her fall is more of a Kinetic Novel. Also tomorrow I will be updating the public release of Her Fall on here to the 7.5version that I finished before I even started on MH... Which gives you an idea how many days straight I have been working on MH. After I finish Chapter 8, I will then move back to getting MH ready for the Alpha release. Then once it is, Making Her Fall chapter 9. Then the 0.2 for MH, Chapter 10 of Her Fall. 0.3 for MH... So on and so forth. Though if the community is still there for Her Fall I am willing to continue the story, as well as I still have the alternate routes I have been debating back and forth if I should do. It's literally all up to what people want. Also as a secret just for the people that read this post. There is 1 extra bedroom in the MH house, I have seriously debating doing a fun little crossover of my own games, and adding Misaki as a secret unlockable character in MH but I also plan on making it a poll and letting the community decide if you guys want to see Misaki, Rumi, or whoever in that slot.
 

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i have played chapter 8 with only the chapter 8 update but i do get this everytime when i get too the shower BJ scene

also in every chapter in the full game are occuring errors right in the first scene
 
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TwiztidSinX

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i have played chapter 8 with only the chapter 8 update but i do get this everytime when i get too the shower BJ scene

also in every chapter in the full game are occuring errors right in the first scene
Hmm thats weird. That error is saying its missing the speed idle image which it shouldnt be. Though maybe it was not compiled into the update only version. Because the update only is supposed to be combined with the your chapter 7 release which should have the images. But you said you also got the issue in the full game version and not just the update only?


I am going to have to download the full game version and test it myself also. To see if I can recreate the issue.

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Yup figured it out. Apparently my version of the game vs the one that got uploaded are different. I apparently have copied my GUI folder into the Images folder. Lterally to fix the issue open the game folder. Copy the gui folder. Paste it into the images folder. That will fix it right away. Images to make it easier to understand. 1711982819725.png 1711982839201.png

I will reupload everything when I wake up.... I havent slept yet and I am way to tired to rebuild the project 3x then upload it again.To both here and itch.io.
 

TwiztidSinX

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i have played chapter 8 with only the chapter 8 update but i do get this everytime when i get too the shower BJ scene

also in every chapter in the full game are occuring errors right in the first scene
Actually fuck it still not asleep so I am reuploading everythiing now. Aside from the Update only file. Which should be fine if you had chapter 7s release and updated to that. Links will be updated in about 40mins.
 

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So this is going to be a long message and essentially explaining what happened with the game over the last few months. If you don't care/want to know the TL:DR is I am working on Her Fall again.

The full story,
I was extremely burnt out from working all day everyday on the game so it was effecting my mental state as it was, then after losing the only patrons that I had that was a serious blow to my motivation. Combined with getting back to back to back poor reviews here on f95zone, and all the hate comments I was receiving on there. Then there was the whole thing with needing to sort through 24,000 audio clips and renaming them and editing them to make my own clips, then the fact that chapter 8 was already scripted to be the largest update to the game so far with over 2000 lines of dialogue hundreds of animations and over 10 different full scenes. The entire scope of it was very overwhelming. I was just like you know what fuck it. Why am I wasting my time on making something everyone seems to hate anyways. I then went on to drop the entire ren'py idea as a whole and just went back to playing PC games, I played around with Genshin and HSR private servers for a bit, and just hung out with friends a lot. After some of my friends kept asking why I haven't been working on Her Fall for the last few weeks, and seeing some actual nice comments on lately. I decided the least I can do is finish this game since that will allow me to move on to another game that a wider variety of players may be into so I hopefully get less hate comments. Since I already had the bulletpoint list for chapters 9 and 10 planned out, and had the entire script done for chapter 8 already, I decided to get back to work on it. I was debating slipping chapter 8 into 2 updates so that I could get something out sooner but after looking at the script overall I can't find a good enough "Halfway" point to separate it into 2 releases. Currently I have all the renders and animations done for the first 300 lines of the script, There are 1000 lines of script. The bulletpoint of chapter 8 is


- Misaki's apartment, Misaki Akari and Rumi talk about going to a swingers club and get Ryou to agree to go by promising him they will find him a chick there.


- At the swingers club, After sitting down Mike (From Chapter 5) spots the group sitting down and comes over to say hi. Misaki did not tell Ryou about the night with Mike and Bob when she came clean to him about everything. Not knowing this Mike starts shit with Ryou. Ryou quickly gets pulled away from the situation by Rumi.


- Rumi talks to Ryou about picking up chicks and finds a girl to talk to for him.


- Misaki gets shitty with Mike, he mentions Bob is also there waiting in a VIP room, Akari decides they should go hang out with them.


- Ryou starts having a good time with the mysterious new girl and Rumi. When someone comes over and asks to join in.


- Misaki, Akari, Bob, and Mike all have a talk and Mike gets shit for his actions earlier.
They all decide they might as well have fun to.


- (This is where I am currently for getting Renders) Kishimoto has a talk with a new potential girl that needs her interview for joining The Circle,
Kishimoto learns he may be into chicks that like to be in control more than he thought he was.
Stuff happens... Obviously....


- We cut back to the Swingers Club and check in on Misaki's Group and Rumi's Group
Which is where the first true game changing choice takes place, Which I will be making sure to add a SAVE HERE kind of message so you can experience both routes. If Misaki Answers her phone Ryou joins the party with them. If she chooses not to there is a huge fight when the night is over which leads to Misaki and Ryou splitting up permanently.


- Both routes end the chapter in almost the same way with an orgy scene at The Circle with the a new girl joining in and getting her Debut like Misaki did in chapter 4.



I still need to do nearly all of the audio clips I was debating doing the audio clips as soon as I finished the Kishimoto section and release that as the halfway point. But I decided that wouldn't leave enough story for the second update. I have said before I am not a fan of doing updates like some games do, where each update is only a fuck load of dialogue and 1 or 2 at the max sex scenes. The way I see it let me know if I am wrong here but the idea of these games is to play it to get yourself off. So while the dialogue is good to get yourself in the mood you dont want to spend hours trying to get to the point that you have your idk how to put it... me time...climax....? IDK but you know what I mean. Which is why I try to keep the story decently interesting but also fast paced enough that you "Enjoy" Each update at least once.
Let me know what you think, should I wait to finish chapter 8 or where do you think is a good point to do a release?

Just an FYI for chapters 9 and 10 they will be released in MANY updates since the story is branching with chapter 8. I already am planning to switch to the "Normal" way of doing releases that I don't enjoy doing. But since I will literally need to make 2 full completely different chapters for each chapter my plan is to do releases for each bulletpoint. In a format like Chapter 9.1, Chapter 9.2 so on and so forth. Obviously when I do release chapter 8 I could also do that now too and release it in that same style if I see enough people asking for it I will do it. If I don't see people asking for it then I will operate under the assumption you want to keep things as they are and would rather wait for the update. Also Patrons will obviously get the updates 2 weeks early even If I don't have any patrons, it is the best way so that I can get a bit of content built up again to try to avoid the whole getting burnt out thing again.





So Misaki and Ryu's stories will be separate, but I wonder, which of the 2 will no longer be from the Circle
 
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Ok, can someone explain the toggles? I can't tell what clicking the guy does, or what using the toggle function in preferences does
 

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Ok, can someone explain the toggles? I can't tell what clicking the guy does, or what using the toggle function in preferences does
There are 2 Preferences Toggles, essentially they are just to make certain tags avoidable. I am way to tried to try to explain this in a delicate way so I apologize if this comes off blunt. Essentially if you want the new chick introduced in chapter 8 to be a futa character turn futa on. If you dont. Turn it off. I made all of her scenes and animations twice so that if your not into futa you dont have to view it. The other one or ones? Shit I dont even remember I think Rape and Blood are both toggles? But those only apply to chapter 1 as some players were put off by those tags so I made them avoidable. As for your other question about clicking the guy, I am assuming you are talking about when your in a sex scene, the sex scenes for chapters 1,2,7 and most of 8 have a UI during the scene clicking the phone, changes camera angle, clicking the person changes to a first person view, Then there are faster, slower, cum, next and back buttons. I made those to try to add some more argh whats the word for it.. immersion? for the player. I did pull back on them slightly more during chapter 8 as I didn't feel like they were super needed all the time. But they are still there on some scenes.

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If you want to know I will tell you what the split off point is, as that has kinda been public knowledge on my discord for awhile now. Lol. It seems so little when it happens if you only view it from one characters pov but since in that moment you can see both characters pov it actually makes you feel a little bad for Ryou for the first time in a long time. But Ryou is the one that will be leaving the Circle, not just the circle, depending on the players choice he will be leaving the game entirely from chapter 9 onwards. Though I will also be adding a section in the beginning of chapter 9 that will allow players who just wanted to see the extended scene and alternate route but also not commit to that route one extra change to change it back during scene 2 of chapter 9. Sorry if thats a bit too much of a spoiler. But I did have this entire story planned out from the moment I released chapter 5. Well I had chapters 6-10 completely planned out. I never storyboarded anything past that because while I have gotten some praise about people enjoying the game I have gotten far more hate than love. Which tbh is what made me damn near give up on the game entirely. After Chapter 6s release I had 7 reviews? I think it was 7? across the 3 sites the game is uploaded to, and only 1 was like "Games alright" the rest where like game is shit, devs a cuck, dev should kill themselves, things like that. Which is why I was asking people if you like the game make your voice heard so that I see more positive than negative. Like I am not talking about paying for the game or anything like that. Just joining the patreon as a free member, following the project on itch, or joining the discord and saying hi, all small things that go a long way when someone doesn't know if people are enjoying what they are making.

Lately though I have had 2 people hearting nearly every dev log on itch, and patreon post, which is why I have been making all the patreon posts that have to do with development free to view to everyone. The only thing I am time gating is the content and thats because I would love to make this a career literally the only reason lol. Long rant over...This is what happens when you dont sleep for 2 days.... Personally though I would enjoy to continue making both games I am working on, mainly because writing for Misaki just flows onto the page so easily. I will just sit there think to myself ok Misaki is going to do this next chapter. What would she do in that situation. The next thing I know I have 1k lines of dialogue. With little notes like Scene 1 happens here. During this line the camera should be aiming at x, so on and so forth.
 
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