Demoness_Kiss

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if no one speaks up on this BS devs do then it will continue to happen.
Precisely this

but more like: we want devs to be held accountable of their bullshits and spread awareness.
There are devs that even when they gave up on their projects still got money from subscribers because nobody called out those devs(ICSTOR for example)
 

tankie123

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Hello i would like to ask one question in two times
1- is it possible to remove the 32 version if it's really the problem of the virus in the compressed version
2- if yes in the first part of the question how can i remove this shit
thanks in advance for your answer
because if this continue as it is actually soon no compressed version will be downloadable ( of any games on this site )
there's no virus in 3rd party compressed 32bit version, and yes you can freely delete 32-bit .exe file to save 268KB of space!
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Demoness_Kiss

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1- Dude, seriously, would you date a girl where you have to babysit her all the time, so she doesn't jump on another dick? Serious? What vanilla player would want to date a girl like that?

2- Or are you going to put the option in so that people can end any relationship with her in the game, and preferably never see her in the game any more?
(i divided and numbered your post, so you'll know specifically what I'm answering to)

1- Scratch that, WHO WOULD WANT TO DATE SUCH A GIRL EVEN IN REAL LIFE? Answer: Either a simp, or someone who gets off over the risk of losing her, or...some co-dependence freak (someone very disturbed for sure, someone that needs long therapy sessions ASAP). Why, sluts and gold-diggers are being throwing off the curb in real life? Because nobody likes a person with a "long" past (implying a high number of past relationships)! Why? Because it's usually a red flag that tells that such a person has issues, their relationships tend to fail for whatever reason! It's the "If 20 persons have a problem with 1 person who is at fault?the 20 or the 1?"situation, in my life I rarely saw people siding with the 1 person, and those who do are usually called "Devil's Advocate" or "Fighters of Lost Causes"

2- But that would put an end to the main plot and possibly the game, also would force the dev to go through branching choices: what if I want to end my relationship with Sola when Stella (the female bully) appeared? Someone else may would want to end it when Carter appears, someone else would do that when Sola masturbates in the library and so on, what about that? Sure the dev can put ONE choice at some point for all of us to quit on Sola...but the game (including the title) is all about Sola, remove her from the game, and you've no game, and if you keep the game, it would be what? A Dating Simulator with no real plot...just dating Evelyn or Mifa for its own sake?

Again and I'll keep stressing everyone about it: My issue isn't the content itself but its execution, it's rushed, not thought through, you can clearly see that the dev didn't question every situation he wrote down, he simply kept patting himself on the back...or focused on getting money out of it (the theory that some NTR-enjoyer threw him a big bag of money has yet to be disproved, and with such drastic change I'm inclined to believe it, otherwise it doesn't explain such decline in the writing's quality)
 
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there's no virus in 3rd party compressed 32bit version, and yes you can freely delete 32-bit .exe file to save 268KB of space!
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I will precise two things
1- is it necessary to include an exclamation mark in your post ( spoiler answer is no )
2- i have eyes and my eyes see when i try to dl this game it says failed virus detected yes i see these pictures so why I get this error ?
 

Guyin Cognito

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So, after the last few pages of comments, I certainly have some ideas about at least part of the plot of this game, lol. I have decided to go ahead and try it for myself.

I am neither here nor there on NTR, I could take it or leave it. I really think part of why those who despise NTR end up feeling so burned, at least some of the time, is because you seem to believe that your perspective is actually the general audience / most common perspective, but it's not. The level of anger you feel and the breadth of your definition for NTR are in themselves a bit of a niche. I think a lot of devs really don't realize what is going to upset you, because most of us don't see those things as "NTR."

It's an unfortunate situation, and I can certainly relate to any story (even non-porn network TV shows) suddenly introducing a story arch or element that you personally hate, when you had previously been enjoying it. That sucks, no doubt. Some of you do get REALLY uncivil about it, though, and I don't think that serves you well. A lot of people probably enjoy a good laugh at it, and that doesn't help you be better understood. One person said something like, "hey, nobody's threatening the dev," but actually (almost certainly jokingly, mind you) one person DID threaten to give the dev herpes while attempting to charge him for pain and suffering (which I have to admit is hilarious to me, because I watch Judge Judy, and she is constantly laughing off people's attempts to charge for pain and suffering.)

So, I just want you to know, that while I don't necessarily have the same feelings about NTR that you do, and I don't think your position is as common as you seem to believe it is, I do have some sympathy for those of you that have been disappointed by this.

That said, there a couple of things I want to point out that have been bothering me.
the issue, is how idiotic that scene is once you understand the context:

Sola's traits and past events are:
- Got molested during school and she is traumatized by her past
- She confesses MULTIPLE TIMES that is scared of men, very uncomfortable in public
- Despite her past, she has some sort of nymphomaniac-y form of stockholm syndrome
- Yet the only person she feels at peace is MC(she confesses this ALSO a few times, including this recent update v0.2.3)

and yet we have Sola misunderstanding a dare and sucking a stranger's penis like it's no big deal
and the dev just recently told us that Sola doesn't have self-control...she is a nymphomaniac at heart so she must always be around MC or she'll have sex with the closest penis...DESPITE being uncomfortable with other men...

am i the only one noticing a few problems, like a few statements contradict each other?
Demoness_Kiss is not the only one that has brought up some of these points, this was just a recent and convenient example to quote.
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NEXT about the glory hole and how Sola's sucking a dick off, she's a huge nymph, who turns 180 when she sees a dick, unrealistically so, which is what I decided as one of her unique characteristics. And it gets more obvious the more you play. She did not suck it willingly, but was given a slight "thrust" by a friend of Mifa's, not Mifa herself. Hence you can see a hand behind her head pushing towards the dick, which caused her switch to turn on. And Sola is 21 years old on that picture, not 18. I quickly made changes to that (also wrote it on changelogs) because if Sola is 18, then Mifa happens to be 15, which obviously doesn't work.
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Also, this:

TL/DR: Sexual victimization, specifically, child sexual abuse (CSA), has been associated with compulsive sexual behavior (CSB).

Without having played yet, my impression is that Sola is uncomfortable around/afraid of men, because deep down she does not want to do these things, and she knows that a lot of men either won't realize that or will outright take advantage of her compulsions. For whatever reason, she believes the MC won't treat her that way (or she simply likes him enough that she actually want to do those things with him, so it's not an issue), and that's why she feels more comfortable around him than anyone else. So, the MC "babysitting" her isn't really about him "protecting his woman from other men," it's about him helping her stay in control of her compulsions.

I actually find this all to be sort of interesting, and that's part of why I've decided to give the game a try. Also, I believe the dev has said that the blackmail attempts plot-thread will be resolved in the next update with stopping the blackmailers. There a ton of games here where the bad guys win. I would actually enjoy seeing some bad guys get defeated for once.
 

BlasKyau

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Fucking christ, everybody let me get some facts straight here.

The fucking two pictures floating around, whoever posted it, DID NOT ACTUALLY HAPPEN and is only an imagination by the MC imagining it as his 'worst case scenario'. Also it's got NOTHING to do with the damn glory hole picture.
The MC imagining these kinds of scenes isn't really an appetizing thing. It's actually something I don't think many fans of the harem genre want to see.

NEXT about the glory hole and how Sola's sucking a dick off, she's a huge nymph, who turns 180 when she sees a dick, unrealistically so, which is what I decided as one of her unique characteristics. And it gets more obvious the more you play. She did not suck it willingly, but was given a slight "thrust" by a friend of Mifa's, not Mifa herself. Hence you can see a hand behind her head pushing towards the dick, which caused her switch to turn on. And Sola is 21 years old on that picture, not 18. I quickly made changes to that (also wrote it on changelogs) because if Sola is 18, then Mifa happens to be 15, which obviously doesn't work.
Personally I think it would be better to include an option so that those who want it don't have to see it.
 

Havenless_

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As for swinging with Stella, I honestly didn't know it'd be such a big deal for some. All I can say is that it's completely optional. I thought my audience would enjoying fucking another girl as an optional thing lol. It DOESN't even have to be swinging like I said in my prev post, you can have both for yoursel.

It'd be a personal taste thing.
So why add the option to share Stella? Surely, your audience would like to fuck another optional girl in a future harem game. But, call me crazy, but I think there is a possibility in a game for the MC to fuck another girl without the option to share your love interest. In order for the MC to fuck another girl is it necessary to add the option to share your love interest? Is that the only way? :WaitWhat:

I think it was simply enough to "fuck the other girl while her boyfriend just watches" and "fuck only Stella". Adding the swinging option is already a red flag to me. I really don't get it.
 

punisher2099

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So why add the option to share Stella? Surely, your audience would like to fuck another optional girl in a future harem game. But, call me crazy, but I think there is a possibility in a game for the MC to fuck another girl without the option to share your love interest. In order for the MC to fuck another girl is it necessary to add the option to share your love interest? Is that the only way? :WaitWhat:

I think it was simply enough to "fuck the other girl while her boyfriend just watches" and "fuck only Stella". Adding the swinging option is already a red flag to me. I really don't get it.
Maybe the sharing Stella part was added to see how receptive people would be to it?
 

Havenless_

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Your view is a specific mindset, and doesnt neccesarily represent everyone (or even the majority?)
Uh... Yes. That's what "I think that..." means.

Maybe the sharing Stella part was added to see how receptive people would be to it?
Personally I don't think so. But it could be. Honestly I'm not for playing games that "experiment" with content to see how players react.

Anyway. I agree with most of the "complaints" and other comments. What has happened with the game has also been a big disappointment to me but I believe that the developer has a plan for their game and is not adding random things or "experiments". Maybe I'm too naive, but oh well. I give him the benefit of the doubt for now. If he keeps making content I don't like, then okay. On to something else.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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As long as it isn't mandatory and easy to avoid, fine. If we can deactivate that content and not even know that it exists, better. If in fact it didn't exist, even better.
To you.

Not to all. To you. Look I'm trying to be civil since our earlier exchange was deleted - but do recognize as strongly as you feel about these topics - others like myself feel just as strongly about topics you may enjoy; I'll take a wild guess and say incest themes - if I could press a button and never have a mom or sister character ever appear in a game again, I would.

At the same time, I do recognize there are people that enjoy those things, and the best a game can do is appeal to a variety of tastes. Im defensive about this subject because there's a mere 6 pages of results when searching by swinging, I dont know of any other fetish tag which has such low representation in games.

Uh... Yes. That's what "I think that..." means.
The alternate path you suggested was framed as an obvious default, I was pointing out that's anything but a default. Most would be happy with choices to partake or avoid content that they like. Stating that the mere presence of an option for a different path somehow reflects poorly on design is an extremely arrogant notion, and bad for creative game design.


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Overflown Currently the quick menu notifications don't show up correctly - I looked into it, it appears the notify_transform and notify2_transform have a typo on line 102 & 112 respectively of characters.rpyc - I'm assuming both values of linear should be 0.0 as they are with the secret notifications which function properly. If this is intentional, please disregard.
 
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Wolf0119

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To you.

Not to all. To you. Look I'm trying to be civil since our earlier exchange was deleted - but do recognize as strongly as you feel about these topics - others like myself feel just as strongly about topics you may enjoy; I'll take a wild guess and say incest themes - if I could press a button and never have a mom or sister character ever appear in a game again, I would.

At the same time, I do recognize there are people that enjoy those things, and the best a game can do is appeal to a variety of tastes. Im defensive about this subject because there's a mere 6 pages of results when searching by swinging, I dont know of any other fetish tag which has such low representation in games.


The alternate path you suggested was framed as an obvious default, I was pointing out that's anything but a default. Most would be happy with choices to partake or avoid content that they like. Stating that the mere presence of an option for a different path somehow reflects poorly on design is an extremely arrogant notion, and bad for creative game design.
I feel that all opinions must be respected, but also put yourself in the shoes of the people, for example, in your case, you like sharing, I think, and the developer of your favorite game about sharing says, "You know, I'm going to delete all content related to that topic." and this game will become a harem with full romance what would you say to that??? I don't think you're going to be happy about that sudden change. And sorry for my writing but english is not my native language :)
 

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Overflown Do whatever you want with YOUR game, its your vision, who cares what people think dont let them win, if the game dosent need a new tag then it dosent need it.

Do you need to develop your character with a back story?, another character needs to be worry about the posible future?, so be it.

Its like a director is gonna change his movie because some people got offendend.

Just add some warning/skip button for easy trigger people. it doesn't need to be added every time some conflict may occur, just at the beginning of the game, where people can choose: "Director's cut" or "i'm a easily triggered person"

Im only here because of the disclaimer next to the links, who's gonna read that 30 something pages?
 
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I'm more surprised at the amount of people that tough that Overflown would not backstab non NTR players than the addition of NTR crap on the game.

The story is a NTR plot, the main LI is a huge hoe, that 2 alone is reason to distrust his tastes.
Now after a good amount of updates his tastes are coming to the light, glory hole scene, beta mc imagining his LI getting dp, now you can even share your LI, his excuse of being a way to fuck another girl is just plain stupid because he could have done that without the option to share mc LI.
He is peeking from the closet and seeing till where he can put NTR shit on till a huge backslash.

At least all of this just show that his word doesn't mean much for him. The swinging is already there so that is already a cross on the game(and a breach on dev trust)now the DP and glory hole renders but I'm more intrigued how some non NTR think having such whore as LI is fine in what was supposed to be a game free of NTR.
 

Zoomaa

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Overflown Do whatever you want with YOUR game, its your vision, who cares what people think dont let them win, if the game dosent need a new tag then it dosent need it.

Do you need to develop your character with a back story?, another character needs to be worry about the posible future?, so be it.

Its like a director is gonna change his movie because some people got offendend.

Just add some warning/skip button for easy trigger people. it doesn't need to be added every time some conflict may occur, just at the beginning of the game, where people can choose: "Director's cut" or "i'm a easily triggered person"

Im only here because of the disclaimer next to the links, who's gonna read that 30 something pages?
I did not play the game. I can tell the Overflown invested a lot of time but so did the players if you notice most complaints are story-wise that some parts of the story do not line up which if adjusted could make for a better story , I agree with you that its the dev choice to make the story he wants with his vision but as long as people don't just talk shit (which is disrespectful) and actually have valid criticism that only can improve the game storytelling.
 
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I'm more surprised at the amount of people that tough that Overflown would not backstab non NTR players than the addition of NTR crap on the game.

The story is a NTR plot, the main LI is a huge hoe, that 2 alone is reason to distrust his tastes.
Now after a good amount of updates his tastes are coming to the light, glory hole scene, beta mc imagining his LI getting dp, now you can even share your LI, his excuse of being a way to fuck another girl is just plain stupid because he could have done that without the option to share mc LI.
He is peeking from the closet and seeing till where he can put NTR shit on till a huge backslash.

At least all of this just show that his word doesn't mean much for him. The swinging is already there so that is already a cross on the game(and a breach on dev trust)now the DP and glory hole renders but I'm more intrigued how some non NTR think having such whore as LI is fine in what was supposed to be a game free of NTR.
so for you a random though that made the mc wanna puke = ntr my guy go touch some grass y'all need it and the swinging is optional like, you know you can just chose the other option put 1 + 1 together (and swinging/ntr isn't the same AT ALL it's like BDSM sex and Vanilla sex kind of comparison so don't even put them in the same sentence as ntr lol), i'll never understand why y'all get so pressed about a random porn game like your lives depends on it lmao
 
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