zARRR

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Interesting that you search for dev posts without actually reading and understanding the contents of them.
That’s the thread in a nutshell:
Everything is calm and about Jimmy till someone thunders writing “AbAnDonED” ignoring the posts before, and after the storm everything returns to calm and especially Jimmy
 

HogRocket

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It's because I'm still working on the game even though there hasn't been an update in over a year. I'm being active in every forum or social media.
I'm willing to wait for the quality update that's coming.......unless it sucks, then I'll turn on you like a rabid wolverine :LOL:

Seriously, it would take me 5 years to turn out what you've done already :unsure:

I'd rather have one update a year-ish of this quality than weekly or monthly updates of crap.......like so many other games on here.
 
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rawdisappointment

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I understand the white knighting from the community but everyone should take into consideration the context we find ourselves in. We're on a porngame piracy site people mostly come here to find the next free wank material, already not the supportive types considering most folks are not willing to pay for the stuff here, with that mentality don't really expect too much compassion here, which is fine, it's expected as that's the nature of such sites and communities'. Taking that aspect into consideration, from these people's perspective, they see a project without updates for two years and are bothered by it, and they couldn't give less of a shit about the active forum participation by the dev or the community management aspect of it all, as to them it just comes off as procrastination. It's like when you're at your workplace just telling your boss "I'm working on it I'm working on it" and sending regular status updates to keep them contempt but not actually providing tangible results for a long time. Difference here is that the dev deliberately avoids announcing a deadline publicly so cannot even be called out for not meeting it, which just worsens the complainer's already impatient attitude. Entitled bitchy attitude? Yes, but again, we are on a porngame piracy site, we are all entitled on some level, some a bit more then others though. So you can keep telling every few days the unavoidable next person who asks "where's the next update, why isn't this abandoned" to read the thread as the dev is actively addressing the questions, it makes no difference to them, and I'm sure most of them read it, cus what most of them want is a hard-deadline for the next update or the thread to be marked as abandoned to satisfy their authoritarian needs. Why I wrote this down is that the energy put into by the community to complain about and police the complainers is way more then necessary, and they should just understand the above context and ignore the complaints, and also as someone mentioned a few pages ago, that the dev is responding actively to these queries which is taking up their valuable time, well, they don't have to respond to all of these as it's obvious that the community is more then happy to tell every single person asking about the status of the game what's going on and remind them to read the previous posts, so that's kind of a moot point.
With all that said, just to keep it on topic as well, my overall personal opinion of the game and Komisari is good. I've been following the project since inception, (second account lost the password to my old one and the reset didn't work so just created a new one recently, been here for the past 5-6 years) and I have to say I'm seriously impressed with how they learned to develop a game and the mechanics from zero, and the community management aspect, how active they are on the forums is remarkable. Story is fun, mechanics that were added were solid for what they were, scenes are hot and the content is a lot compared to some other games. As for Komisari, based on their forum posts seems like a chill down to earth nice person with a good sense of humour who handles the more aggressive or whiney complainers really well, so no issues on that end. The only criticism I can really come up with is what I mentioned at the beginning of the post regarding deadlines. I know it was stated that ETA will be announced one week before the beta is ready to drop, but that's the thing, with your update frequency you can't realistically expect users to all be contempt with this approach of "it's ready when it's ready" and not set up some self-imposed deadlines, even if you don't meet them they do serve as useful indicator of what to expect. Your approach would work with House in the Rift or Corrupted Kingdoms which have a frequent update schedule, but when you set a long update cycle on purpose, this can become a problem as you can see. Unfortunately, some of us can't keep a cool head when is comes to these things, as the entitled coomer pirates we are. :)
Good luck with the project, keep the updates and posts rolling and hoping you get all the emotional and financial support you need for this.
 

Badjourasmix

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I understand the white knighting from the community but everyone should take into consideration the context we find ourselves in. We're on a porngame piracy site people mostly come here to find the next free wank material, already not the supportive types considering most folks are not willing to pay for the stuff here, with that mentality don't really expect too much compassion here, which is fine, it's expected as that's the nature of such sites and communities'. Taking that aspect into consideration, from these people's perspective, they see a project without updates for two years and are bothered by it, and they couldn't give less of a shit about the active forum participation by the dev or the community management aspect of it all, as to them it just comes off as procrastination. It's like when you're at your workplace just telling your boss "I'm working on it I'm working on it" and sending regular status updates to keep them contempt but not actually providing tangible results for a long time. Difference here is that the dev deliberately avoids announcing a deadline publicly so cannot even be called out for not meeting it, which just worsens the complainer's already impatient attitude. Entitled bitchy attitude? Yes, but again, we are on a porngame piracy site, we are all entitled on some level, some a bit more then others though. So you can keep telling every few days the unavoidable next person who asks "where's the next update, why isn't this abandoned" to read the thread as the dev is actively addressing the questions, it makes no difference to them, and I'm sure most of them read it, cus what most of them want is a hard-deadline for the next update or the thread to be marked as abandoned to satisfy their authoritarian needs. Why I wrote this down is that the energy put into by the community to complain about and police the complainers is way more then necessary, and they should just understand the above context and ignore the complaints, and also as someone mentioned a few pages ago, that the dev is responding actively to these queries which is taking up their valuable time, well, they don't have to respond to all of these as it's obvious that the community is more then happy to tell every single person asking about the status of the game what's going on and remind them to read the previous posts, so that's kind of a moot point.
With all that said, just to keep it on topic as well, my overall personal opinion of the game and Komisari is good. I've been following the project since inception, (second account lost the password to my old one and the reset didn't work so just created a new one recently, been here for the past 5-6 years) and I have to say I'm seriously impressed with how they learned to develop a game and the mechanics from zero, and the community management aspect, how active they are on the forums is remarkable. Story is fun, mechanics that were added were solid for what they were, scenes are hot and the content is a lot compared to some other games. As for Komisari, based on their forum posts seems like a chill down to earth nice person with a good sense of humour who handles the more aggressive or whiney complainers really well, so no issues on that end. The only criticism I can really come up with is what I mentioned at the beginning of the post regarding deadlines. I know it was stated that ETA will be announced one week before the beta is ready to drop, but that's the thing, with your update frequency you can't realistically expect users to all be contempt with this approach of "it's ready when it's ready" and not set up some self-imposed deadlines, even if you don't meet them they do serve as useful indicator of what to expect. Your approach would work with House in the Rift or Corrupted Kingdoms which have a frequent update schedule, but when you set a long update cycle on purpose, this can become a problem as you can see. Unfortunately, some of us can't keep a cool head when is comes to these things, as the entitled coomer pirates we are. :)
Good luck with the project, keep the updates and posts rolling and hoping you get all the emotional and financial support you need for this.
I pretty much agree with everything you said, but the game hasn't been without updates for 2 years. It has 14 months.
 
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It does almost make you wish there was a universal versioning system everyone would use. Sometimes you see a 0.1 that has more content than a triple A title, other times it'll literally be the first initial/demo release. Rarely you'll even see something in it's 0.1 iteration but then be tagged as "completed".
I think Nick Young speaks for the average user when he goes: :WaitWhat:

I started looking at file sizes instead when determining how much content there is in a game. My sanity sent me a thank-you letter shortly after. :HideThePain:
Oh, that can be quite deceiving as well. Compression, file format, and a few other little details make a lot of difference. A Visual Novel length is determined by the "novel" part, and text barely takes any space. Sandbox games are based on the technical implementation, which also doesn't take a lot of space (and when it does, you're usually including a lot of libraries and is usually a sign of poor optimization).

In the end, looking at file size will help you to determine how bad at compressing the author was, and possibly the amount of art/music/videos added. Given compressing audio is harder than compressing art (while maintaining decent quality), a game with music could easily be double the size of the same game without, so this is actually a bad metric.

The best metric, imo, is the reviews. People will comment not only if the game is too short or too big, but also if it is worth playing, the quirks, the good things, stuff poorly tagged; And lack of reviews can often tell you that a game is either new, or don't have a history on F95Zone.
 
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Cartageno

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Oh, that can be quite deceiving as well. Compression, file format, and a few other little details make a lot of difference. A Visual Novel length is determined by the "novel" part, and text barely takes any space. Sandbox games are based on the technical implementation, which also doesn't take a lot of space (and when it does, you're usually including a lot of libraries and is usually a sign of poor optimization).

In the end, looking at file size will help you to determine how bad at compressing the author was, and possibly the amount of art/music/videos added. Given compressing audio is harder than compressing art (while maintaining decent quality), a game with music could easily be double the size of the same game without, so this is actually a bad metric.

The best metric, imo, is the reviews. People will comment not only if the game is too short or too big, but also if it is worth playing, the quirks, the good things, stuff poorly tagged; And lack of reviews can often tell you that a game is either new, or don't have a history on F95Zone.
Never mind that the question of sprite based or render based graphics can make a huge difference, growing while content grows.

I agree that reviews are generally more useful than people think, but forget about stars, especially star averages. Read some of the better written ones. You will also find their gripes which may not even be that relevant to you (or very relevant). Sure, only every tenth or so review is useful ...
 

Entropy_27

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I searched for this thread if there is even any updates since I downloaded this MASTERPIECE back in itch io last year, glad that the dev is still working on it!
 
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ankhtar

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When it comes to reviews, I tend to favor reading the negative ones. Not because I'm looking for excuses to dislike the game (even though if there are glaring bugs or flaws, I like to know in advance). Not that there's anything wrong with positive reviews, it's just that they tend to be praising the game to the highest tiers of heaven without really saying much of anything beyond "it's really good" spread out through a couple of paragraphs. I mean, I get that it's good, I just want to know why.

As with everything else, there are exceptions, of course. Some negative reviews tend to be downright offensive and it makes me wonder why they haven't been reported/removed. Generally speaking, reviews on this site tend to be such a mixed bag that, most of the time, I end up going "you know what? I'll just download it and decide for myself.".
 

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Been playing for the past couple of days. Normally I stay away from Koikatsu-based games because they, well, look like Koikatsu. This one manages to not fall into that trap. Well written, as well.

I do find it to be a bit of a slow burn when it comes to the funsexytimes and quite a few blue balls when characters can't be advanced further in the current version.

EDIT: Some of the quest hints could use a little bit of work. I'm on the last part of Misdirection *and haven't the foggiest idea where to go, or when*.

EDITx2: Eventually figured it out.
 
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Cartageno

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When it comes to reviews, I tend to favor reading the negative ones. Not because I'm looking for excuses to dislike the game (even though if there are glaring bugs or flaws, I like to know in advance). Not that there's anything wrong with positive reviews, it's just that they tend to be praising the game to the highest tiers of heaven without really saying much of anything beyond "it's really good" spread out through a couple of paragraphs. I mean, I get that it's good, I just want to know why.

As with everything else, there are exceptions, of course. Some negative reviews tend to be downright offensive and it makes me wonder why they haven't been reported/removed. Generally speaking, reviews on this site tend to be such a mixed bag that, most of the time, I end up going "you know what? I'll just download it and decide for myself.".
I would even argue that the majority of the negatives are just as braindead as the glowing "best evah" 5 star rating for a demo. I've seen complaints about lack of animations in a text based game, that the dev is Russian, that characters have Japanese names (in a Japanese game), all 1 star.

But finding out from the better reviews what annoys people is - or at least can be - helpful. Unlogical story? Bad English? Pacing too fast or slow? Incomprehensible UI? All these would have different effects on me. And many of these I can check whether I consider it the same easily in the early parts of the game.
 

WSmith

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The game has no routes and there won't be any pregnancy.
It's a shame, though not every game has to have pregnancy. Still, it would have been really nice to fill Lucy full of kittens.
Indeed not every game has to have pregnancy, and I'm happy this won't. For me too many games are putting pregnancy as a priority in games.

With games such as these where you don't have routes (I love not having routes in this game) I think not adding pregnancy is a good thing.
 

marco tali

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How can I send guild members to do small lake?
And I did everything but the prologue is still not finished. I must have missed something but what?
 
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