Ren'Py Holiday Island [v0.4.5.1] [darkhound1]

[secrecy]

This game is head and shoulders above others. A real example about how to do a great erotic/porn sandbox game. Fantastic ideas, a lot of content, great gameplay and balanced stats.

Every time I find a little fault into game is finally fixed. Love that. Ex: find the girls progression and scenes into the phone circling them one by one instead of directly clicking their pics.

But above all, Darkhound must be a real "erotomaniac" -really don´t know if this word means something in English, but everybody understands me-, as their sexual scenes are the best I have seen in a videogame. A lot of developers should take note of this. I am really tired with most of the games since "sexual progression" is absolutely foreseeable and unimaginative with reused renders and positions. You never know whats next to expect in "Holiday Island"...perfect in some many levels.

Just after this fair review, my persistent problem: Almost never get any girl coming to my room for service...once Desire visited me one morning... and never again any other girl. Nor Amy, Yvette, Natasha, no matter how I impose turns... Don´t know if I am being unlucky or the chances are so limited.

 

[Bantry]

my persistent problem: Almost never get any girl coming to my room for service...once Desire visited me one morning... and never again any other girl. Nor Amy, Yvette, Natasha, no matter how I impose turns... Don´t know if I am being unlucky or the chances are so limited.

The maid or room service girl changes weekly on Monday. In other words same girl for a week unless you have progressed far enough long to ask the receptionist to assign a specific girl. As a side note, that girl must be on the island. Now the girl can show up at any time between 9:00am and noon. Want to see them all? Spend a morning or two in your room clicking the half-hour icon and you will eventually.

 

[secrecy]

The maid or room service girl changes weekly on Monday. In other words same girl for a week unless you have progressed far enough long to ask the receptionist to assign a specific girl. As a side note, that girl must be on the island. Now the girl can show up at any time between 9:00am and noon. Want to see them all? Spend a morning or two in your room clicking the half-hour icon and you will eventually.

Not happening with me. I´ve been playing this game since 0.01 -when "hug girls" was only a shadow- multiple times. I know perfectly well how it works. Allocate a girl -of course, a girl who have the chance to do room service- doesn´t work for me. I could spend an entire week the full morning walking from my room to other locations and return and events never trigger.

I´ve only seen Desire two times: first one was at 0.01 or 0.02 version, when still there was no erotic moment related to her. The other one days ago with the full scene -2 pics at the phone-. Assigning Amy, Yvette, Natasha -can´t remember now if other girls have scenes too- a full week for room service and random event never happens.

 

[darkhound1]

Not happening with me. I´ve been playing this game since 0.01 -when "hug girls" was only a shadow- multiple times. I know perfectly well how it works. Allocate a girl -of course, a girl who have the chance to do room service- doesn´t work for me. I could spend an entire week the full morning walking from my room to other locations and return and events never trigger.

I´ve only seen Desire two times: first one was at 0.01 or 0.02 version, when still there was no erotic moment related to her. The other one days ago with the full scene -2 pics at the phone-. Assigning Amy, Yvette, Natasha -can´t remember now if other girls have scenes too- a full week for room service and random event never happens.

The room service event should really be one of the easy ones.
The girl will do your room service every day, so there isn't even a timer on it.
Stay in your room after 07:00 and advance time in 1/2 hour steps until she shows up. Should be between 07:00 and 13:00. The maid should show up every single day of the week. If she doesn't, send me a save. But I'm pretty sure it works. Do not run around and change locations!

 

[Deleted member 586894]

alice must be alone in the gym, save and re enter in the gym until the event active, in the morning after awake is the better time for it

is there a requirement? like bikini or etc.

 

[DragonFire]

It's super complicated to try to add scenes with several branches and endings to the achievements. It will not be possible to do it in a way that makes everyone happy. I always have to compromise. Reducing the number of achievements will reduce the number of images you have there. It was a first shot as it is right now. It might not be perfect or to everyones's liking.
I already tried to have the possibility to "get caught" on purpose. Maybe I missed some spots. In any case this "logic" doesn't work for everything. It will get more and more complictaed when after every lust or charm or other check you still have the possibility to let it fail. Maybe I remove some of the not so important achievements in one of the next versions. But you can be sure some are going to complain about that move.
Right now there is no end to the game. I still haven't implemented it.

Thank you for your kind response

I fear you misunderstood me a little though, because I didn't suggest the removal of any achievements, I only suggested that all achievements can be obtained even if the skill/stealth is "too high" for them.

People play differently, I'm the kind who makes an effort to maximize skills and stats early in any game, usually that means an easier time later on. It's quite a blow to discover a "oh I'm sorry, you can't see this or that scene because you over-trained".

That's why I suggested an option to let one self be caught, if wishing so, when the stealth is too high to be "naturally caught".
It' wouldn't be a new branch to the scene of getting caught, it would simply be a players choice to trigger the getting caught.
Would that be too complicated to create?

 

[secrecy]

So I should wait in my room doing nothing and let the time passing for 30 mins for events to trigger? I´ve been visiting my room after doing something at other places. Example:

7:00 breakfast. 7:30 go to my room. Nothing
7:30 gym help some girl or speak/hug/kiss. 8:00 return to room. Nothing
8:00 doctor or gym again. 8:30 my room. Nothing
9:00 some date. 10:00 return to my room. Nothing...

And so on. I am gonna try with the "skip time" button without exiting the room the entire morning. Lets see if happens.

 

[darkhound1]

Thank you for your kind response

I fear you misunderstood me a little though, because I didn't suggest the removal of any achievements, I only suggested that all achievements can be obtained even if the skill/stealth is "too high" for them.

People play differently, I'm the kind who makes an effort to maximize skills and stats early in any game, usually that means an easier time later on. It's quite a blow to discover a "oh I'm sorry, you can't see this or that scene because you over-trained".

That's why I suggested an option to let one self be caught, if wishing so, when the stealth is too high to be "naturally caught".
It' wouldn't be a new branch to the scene of getting caught, it would simply be a players choice to trigger the getting caught.
Would that be too complicated to create?

I understood you the first time and I tried to explain why it doesn't work. Read again what I wrote. It's not just about getting caught. There are any number of other automated checks as well.
The Yvette scene has about 8 different branches. And only 2 of them are about getting caught.

 

[Bantry]

I am gonna try with the "skip time" button without exiting the room the entire morning. Lets see if happens.

Yes, do it that way. Don't leave the room! Just use the time skip icon.

 

[Bantry]

Hey @darkhound1, saw this girl standing in the ocean while taking my morning jog. She dove in the water and swam off before I could get my binoculars out to see who it was. Any ideas?

 

[Deleted member 586894]

how to trigger strenght practice event with alice and yvette ? is there a requirement beside she alone at the gym?

 

[DragonFire]

Actually it is not players job to complain. Nor is it their right. They can play or walk away. The product does not have a price, it is free.

Patreons can complain or rather voice hopes, they have that option through their patronage, this being a patreon game. But even that is within the vision that Darkhound has set up for the game.

A vision they support, making them patreons.

On this forum we can post what we want and Darkhound being friendly or perhaps service minded or simply hoping it will grant patreons? chooses to be here and often to answer.

But it is not a subscription game or a bought product, and this is not the patreon page. So players actually dont have recourse. Could choose not to listen at all.

Bit of trying to produce a work of art and then get a comment on the left little toe having too much shadow I'd like to know what Darkhound does for patience exercises, I could use some of that at work

I guess you are right.. we have no rights what so ever to voice an opinion on a product we do not pay for, or to complain at all.
Let's turn to apathy and silence.. Oh wait a second.. wouldn't that also mean that bug reports, play testing and the like would also have to stop?
This might be a pirate site, but in many cases it's a lot more active in feedback than Patreon, which is why I guess many developers tolerate, even value, this site?
That and the fact that some of us "pirates" do find our way to support a product we fall for, become Patrons ourselves, after trying out certain games found in here.

Patreon has another big flaw, you can't use it's search engine to find erotic games, they made it pretty complicated for us who enjoy that genre and yes I have been on Patreon for years, supporting a lot of different developers.

My point is, this site is a great asset for developers if they embrace it and I am so pleased that the Dev of This game has indeed done so

There was also a hint of sarcasm and humor when I wrote that it's a players "job" to complain, please notice the "" sign?

I agree with you though, that many comments, for many games, are pretty silly and can take it toll on a creators patience. But among all those pieces of feedback can also be found valuable information and suggestions of a scale that big companies pay through the nose to survey, you just have to filter through it, ignore the silly mud and find the gold coins

 

[Bantry]

how to trigger strenght practice event with alice and yvette ? is there a requirement beside she alone at the gym?

Alice needs to be alone Yvette does not. Ask Yvette to do pull-ups, she won't because she isn't strong enough and then you can schedule training with her.
Now here is the tricky part. SAVE early and often! Seriously you have all these slots for 'Saves' use them. Then you can go back and reload and make changes such as wardrobe and try again.

 

[darkhound1]

I really try to read all of the comments here. I also know that most of you mean no harm and want to help.
But there are several things to consider:
- reading all the stuff takes a lot of time
- not everything that sounds easy is easy to do in software
- I cannot agree with everything and everyone
- time is limited, so doing a) means not doing b) and/or c)
- bug reports are good to have, when it's not in the form of: there is a problem with the game... It crashes all over the place, etc.
- I think, I really picked up a lot of ideas and wishes from many of you, but sometimes it has to be a "sorry but no"

This post is in no way meant to discourage any of you to write what you would like to have or what you don't like. But please also accept when I say no.

@Bantry - I love the first ass shot. Saved it for future reference

 

[Zeekius]

I really try to read all of the comments here. I also know that most of you mean no harm and want to help.
But there are several things to consider:
- reading all the stuff takes a lot of time
- not everything that sounds easy is easy to do in software
- I cannot agree with everything and everyone
- time is limited, so doing a) means not doing b) and/or c)
- bug reports are good to have, when it's not in the form of: there is a problem with the game... It crashes all over the place, etc.
- I think, I really picked up a lot of ideas and wishes from many of you, but sometimes it has to be a "sorry but no"

This post is in no way meant to discourage any of you to write what you would like to have or what you don't like. But please also accept when I say no.

@Bantry - I love the first ass shot. Saved it for future reference

You're doing great man. Keep up the good work! Yvette is still in my opinion the best character in the game. I am aspiring to create a game myself though with lack of know how i have settled for story planning at this time. How ever i am very curious how you created such characters? The models and animations to be precise. please let me know when you have time thank you in advance!

 

[Bantry]

@Bantry - I love the first ass shot. Saved it for future reference

If nothing else it makes a nice wallpaper. :heartcoveredeyes:

 

[chaf]

how do you get the grope option and how do you change the girl's outfit.i cannot trigger any of the events

 

[Philip Screwdriver]

Oh well...
If I hadn't added it you can be sure someone would ask why I didn't add it - it includes different renders, that's mainly why I did it. Adding the scenes with multiple renders and how often to add a scene is really difficult to decide.

I'm really wondering my I think so much about the best way to add the multiple image achievements when all everyone does is complain anyway.

Sincere apologies. My comments on that came across as more complaining than I actually felt. In particular, I took your first point when @jikorde raised it, but it doesn't really look like I did since I then went on to clarify what I had actually been saying--which I should not have done. Given that point, I can't (and wouldn't, and won't) disagree with your decision.

It's super complicated to try to add scenes with several branches and endings to the achievements. It will not be possible to do it in a way that makes everyone happy. I always have to compromise. Reducing the number of achievements will reduce the number of images you have there. It was a first shot as it is right now. It might not be perfect or to everyone's liking.

I already tried to have the possibility to "get caught" on purpose. Maybe I missed some spots. In any case this "logic" doesn't work for everything. It will get more and more complicated when after every lust or charm or other check you still have the possibility to let it fail. Maybe I remove some of the not so important achievements in one of the next versions. But you can be sure some are going to complain about that move.

FWIW, I would rather see you include more than start removing things. If that means a few achievements that I don't personally enjoy, well, really, who cares? It is, at most, a very minor gritch. (I expect at least half my reaction came from false expectation--since you'd added it as an achievement, I thought maybe it led to a happy ending. Should have known better.)

Not without adding a ton of code and replacing all 166 phone images and adding code in I don't know how many places where the images are used. So no, not worth it.

I wouldn't have thought it would be anything like that much work . . . chalk that idea up to native ignorance on my part.

Hey, there was a typo in a variable name when your endurance gets reduced due to lack of training. I fixed it.
Variable name used: "-l_pl_endurance_delta"
correct name: "l_pl_endurance_delta"

So is there something I can do to fix that, or do I just need to go back to an earlier save and do intensive endurance training? (Sorry if that question about the code has an obvious answer other than "no," but I haven't tried playing around with Ren'Py at all. See previous comment about "native ignorance" . . .)

 

[Zeekius]

how do you get the grope option and how do you change the girl's outfit.i cannot trigger any of the events

Did you down load the patch fixes to allow them for the new update?

 

[vic2670]

Greetings,

I'd like to report a situation that occurred to me with the new update. I am not sure if this is a bug or an intended mechanic, and my research on both this website and patreon has proved unfruitful. I would appreciate if anyone could clarify this for me.

In any case, I am currently grinding the new reception outfits for the girls and I noticed that when a girl gets reassigned automatically to the reception job, at the end of the week, she return with the old outfit and I have to grind the new one all over again. What is weird is that in the case that I manually reassign the girl, she keeps the new outfit.

Is this a Bug, an intended mechanic, or am I missing a button that allows a quick outfit change after the rescheduling?

Thank you.