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Do you like the Human or Demon route more?

  • Human

    Votes: 3,064 57.6%
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    Votes: 2,256 42.4%

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BiggestDickest

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Pretty good.
Story and the psychopath MC are pretty hilarious.
The only thing I dislike is the lack of background music, but I'll continue playing.

P.S. The german translation (I'm german and assumed it's the game's native language) is horrible.
Well no, it's not the game's native language. I don't speak German. I just have a fan who offered to do the German translation. Well, too bad :(.
 
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That demon/human split seems a bit concerning as an over reaction towards criticism...

well, I am definitely playing Demon as god satan intended...
Haha, well, accepting criticism is good, right? While it's true that I added the Human route due to multiple demands, it's not something that I never thought about. Before making the game, I thought about whether I should make this game in a realistic way or in a more fantastical way. Of course, I decided to go for the latter. I mean, I already toned the fantasy element down quite a bit compared to my previous works. But now that I have split the game into two paths, I don't have to hold back anymore.

If I started the game in a purely realistic approach, I would have started it differently, and the pacing would be slower, but I think it's fine right now. I did have a rough outline of the story for the realistic version so I just merged it with the current one.

But it's great to hear someone loves the Demon route. You're going to love the upcoming versions because that's where the Demon route will shine.
 

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Not bad, if kind of goofy at points, like cowgirl rape, she could have easily just stood up, it was certainly a unique idea, but the sex scenes were bad, too short and certainly nothing to fap to, if not fun to see a cheap knock off of whats her face from Game of Thrones.
 

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Not bad, if kind of goofy at points, like cowgirl rape, she could have easily just stood up, it was certainly a unique idea, but the sex scenes were bad, too short and certainly nothing to fap to, if not fun to see a cheap knock off of whats her face from Game of Thrones.
Well, I always think there has to be some suspension of disbelief when it comes to fiction. The idea is that she couldn't escape the MC's grip.

As for animations, I can't really afford to make them at the moment. Every animation requires a proportional amount of render time to make, discounting all the posing and testing. In short, a 60 fps animation is actually 60 renders for 1 second of animation. So, unless you have a really powerful computer that can handle renders in a very short time, it's a huge trade off. I did try to make an animation while I was practising, but that's how I came to that conclusion. I know there are other visual novels that have big updates and great animations. I love those too. But keep in mind that they also have more resources at their disposal, i.e. better computers, more developers, render farms etc.. I'm just starting out. I don't know if I will ever get there. It's like comparing an indie game to AAA games. You just won't get the same amount of development in indie games. They could be just as fun, or even more fun, for other reasons. That's what I hope to achieve.
 
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Havik79

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Yeah but you don't need animations to have good sex scenes, just more static images and better descriptions, it is harder to get into being an MC, especially a rapist if you are a 2 pump chump, makes you feel like a loser, not a badass, Khan has no animations but the sex scenes are hot.
 

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Yeah but you don't need animations to have good sex scenes, just more static images and better descriptions, it is harder to get into being an MC, especially a rapist if you are a 2 pump chump, makes you feel like a loser, not a badass, Khan has no animations but the sex scenes are hot.
Well, I'll try to improve the sex scenes then. I don't know. Maybe my taste is quite a bit different from the others. I don't know about better descriptions. It's something I find unrealistic in other visual novels, along with the flash when cumming. Unless it's dirty talk, which doesn't make sense here, people seem to talk before and after sex.

I tried to copy the sex scenes in real porn. But of course, the key element of real porn is missing here, which is not just 1 or 2 seconds of animations, but minutes or even hours of action. Even in the same sex position, every thrust is different, every expression is different, every sound is different. This is somewhat of an experiment, but I'm trying to capture the elements from real porn, that are missing in VN porn.

Lastly, by more static images, do you mean more sex positions?
 
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No just more images, yes that is the problem with real pornos time, but a few more images with more descriptions can go a long way, you say Kahn is your inspiration, so I am saying more sex scenes like that game has.

All I am saying is I have played and enjoyed Khan, if that is your inspiration then have sex scenes like that.

I admit this is just my taste, but I can not be the only guy who finds super short sex scenes especially as a rapist makes you feel like an incel loser, not some alpha take what he wants.
 

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No just more images, yes that is the problem with real pornos time, but a few more images with more descriptions can go a long way, you say Kahn is your inspiration, so I am saying more sex scenes like that game has.

All I am saying is I have played and enjoyed Khan, if that is your inspiration then have sex scenes like that.

I admit this is just my taste, but I can not be the only guy who finds super short sex scenes especially as a rapist makes you feel like an incel loser, not some alpha take what he wants.
I'll go back and play Khan again to revise my impression on it. But just to be specific, do you accept different camera angles of the same poses?

Of course I understand short sex scenes are unsatisfactory. It feels like premature ejaculation/cumming. But that is the difficulty of visual novels. It's hard to indicate the passage of time, but I'll try.
 

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Haha, well, accepting criticism is good, right? While it's true that I added the Human route due to multiple demands, it's not something that I never thought about. Before making the game, I thought about whether I should make this game in a realistic way or in a more fantastical way. Of course, I decided to go for the latter. I mean, I already toned the fantasy element down quite a bit compared to my previous works. But now that I have split the game into two paths, I don't have to hold back anymore.

If I started the game in a purely realistic approach, I would have started it differently, and the pacing would be slower, but I think it's fine right now. I did have a rough outline of the story for the realistic version so I just merged it with the current one.

But it's great to hear someone loves the Demon route. You're going to love the upcoming versions because that's where the Demon route will shine.
awesome. I can't wait
 

Havik79

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I'll go back and play Khan again to revise my impression on it. But just to be specific, do you accept different camera angles of the same poses?

Of course I understand short sex scenes are unsatisfactory. It feels like premature ejaculation/cumming. But that is the difficulty of visual novels. It's hard to indicate the passage of time, but I'll try.
Yes, I do, as I said my only problem you basically summed up, cumming too soon, like a horny teenager.
 

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Yes, I do, as I said my only problem you basically summed up, cumming too soon, like a horny teenager.
Well, about that, he is meant to be a horny teenager. Depends on what you define as teenager I guess. Someone in his 20s. Strictly speaking, not a teenager I think.
 
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I just played Foogy Hill, :oops: man it was good. I actually got chills in some scenes. I wish there were more games like it.
I like the fact that it was a no-frills setting, like a low budget horror flick that had to rely on creative shots and dialogue.
 
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I just played Foogy Hill, :oops: man it was good. I actually got chills in some scenes. I wish there were more games like it.
I like the fact that it was a no-frills setting, like a low budget horror flick that had to rely on creative shots and dialogue.
I'm really happy to hear that. Thank you. One thing that I kinda miss in Honey Select 2 is the "unrealistic" lighting, or I think in more technical terms, biased lighting. It allowed me to make shots that have a really high contrast in lighting. Well, the other day I discovered something similar in Daz, that is I can control the amount of light bounces. At low numbers of light bounes, I can kinda re-create something similar, but it's not the same.

Lighting is really hard to do. Like, sometimes I don't understand why it doesn't work. Like in the scene with the sun between the MC and the mother, I wanted to make it so that the light would shine through the hair, like this. 1677523301281.png
But for some reason, I couldn't get it to work, no matter how much I raise the intensity of the light. I have no idea why. But well, I think I'll get to understand the lighting in Daz more over time.
 
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I just played the game. I loved!
The story is realistic enough that you don't mind making small concessions. The size of the women's breasts and the MC's penis are not exaggerated. The renderings are very beautiful, the environment is very full and alive.
There are not so many differences between the routes other than the experience they present. If you choose the "human" route you experience the story being presented through the eyes of the MC, while the "demon" route presents the traumatic experience of the victims.

I just hope the MC manages to make his mom understand his sick love and accept him and his human cow farm... and maybe scenes where he sells the milk and people drink it and enjoy it without knowing it's human milk.. .

This game reminds me of "The Hunt" quest in CyberPunk 2077.
 

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I think I'll get to understand the lighting in Daz more over time.
I have huge respect for you and the other artist. The amount of effort that goes into the work is unappreciated.
An unexpected issue is becoming pretty obvious: the level of very good renders, images, styles, and the poor translation in games.
I think of it as we are all good at reading and reading comprehension but typically below average at math. we enjoy reading, and it benefits us in our daily lives, math, on the other hand, is a tool to accomplish something. In this case, math is the dialogue.

And we are visual beings, so more emphasis is put on visual art. Sadly a well written story can elevate the game hugely, but it's not happening in some games.

I've started helping new devs with poorly translated games. Some want help some don't. many I can't help because the dialogue is too erratic and would need a complete start over. the development threads here are a great way to work out those issues before the game gets put up here.

Sorry for the long comment. I just retired and have too much time on my hands suddenly :ROFLMAO:

Much success in the new game.
 
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