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If you have issues in ep3 with saves that means that you didn`t transfer many points from previous episodes!?

Also, sometimes people complain about lack of sexual content or what not, its actually because of the points!!! Also, dialogues can change dramatically based on previous choices! Geez, just like in every other renpy game....
 

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Don`t bother with using console commands. You will miss a lot of content/story that way... Episode 1 is very important you need to get it right, next episodes are easier...
 

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Just checked the code.
lisaphonecall is another variable from previous episodes(too lazy to delete the lines)
lisa_callep3 is correct and I don`t see an issue there...

Just be careful suggesting people to mess with the code...Just let me know to check it first...
 

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the bugs in this game piss me off, it says check pc then blog, but press blog and it says i dont have any photos.. wtf?
Anyone having this issue:
You do not have enough aunt points from episode2!!!(she didn`t send you naked picture!)
Either re-play episode2 or start episode3 with new game with full stats. Don`t complain if you don`t get the plot tho...
 
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Very constructive and honest review. It will help lots of people figuring what to expect. And that is:

No deep story! No deep conversations! No deep characters! No grinding!(thats why its linear) No names!(apart from Lisa, which is Daz generic character know as...Lisa....)
This is pure erotic/porn fictional game, where main character(you) has amnesia!!! so exactly "idiotic moron with no positive attributes or any real skill"mostly because of that!(and because its a simple, dull game on purpose!)

Easy to follow story, very erotic, easy characters :), beatifull renders, frequent choices(dull and stupid - yes, but it makes the scenes much more erotic, at least for me...).
If you skip the lines then its maybe better to skip the game altogether.
 
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The game has been downloaded approximately 300k times... This update around 10k times... and so far I have your report of a bug :) I will check the code, but most likely caused by taking alternative route/choices in which case, this late in the game, consider it as a game ending bug/choices...
Not to mention that in 2 years, if you follow the main story line there were 1-2 game breaking bugs!(I remember 1 but lets say 2)? Thats insane level of quality for a one man team...
if u look after i posted and before i posted im not the only one with that bug.

Game testing, a subset of game development, is a software testing process for quality control of video games. The primary function of game testing is the discovery and documentation of software defects (aka bugs). Interactive entertainment software testing is a highly technical field requiring computing expertise, analytic competence, critical evaluation skills, and endurance. In recent years the field of game testing has come under fire for being extremely strenuous and unrewarding, both financially and emotionally.

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I worked for a gaming company in the early 90s, you know one of those companies that worked on several games at a time. Everyone was paid a decent wage. The founder began the company in the early 80s. The company grew.

A producer and director, sometimes the same person if they were great at their jobs, multiple programmers, multiple artists, multiple beta testers would make up each team. Still, game-breakers occurred, not ofter mind you. If they kept those game-breakers less than 10, they counted themselves damn lucky. More times than not 10 to 20 would occur, occasionally more.

Now, we have one person doing programming, artwork, beta testing, promotion, etc. And yes, with , , and other game engines, art programs like , , and , that makes doing a one-man team very doable. This makes the players alpha and beta testers.

The game you are playing is not a beta version, the company I worked for and other companies saw it as alpha, not a beta game as yet.
  • Alpha is a game that does not have all of the components. Not all of the programming as been added, which means restarting the game is QUITE common, not all of the finalized artwork, etc. The testers are of course kept very busy during this time.
  • Beta is when all of the components have been added. This is the bug-hunting time. Beta testers got their name from this part of the game development process.
  • Finally, a game goes gold, gamma, final, whatever. These names were given almost exclusively to games just before release where floppy disks or later CD-ROMs, were burned, then sent to a company the specialized in this final stage of game development.
The game's team when to other games to save a small group who continued to test the software looking for large bugs, game-breakers, hopefully, they would be found during beta testing.
There are, of course, many other classifications within the game development team. The games we released were written for MS-DOS (disk operating system). Twenty-five years have passed since I worked there.

The game company was , who released the , , and many other games. The founder was .

Yeah, I got a bit carried away with the description of the game development and testing process; I had to pull in the reigns as it was.

I hope this gives you a wee bit of appreciation for the hard work developers on F95Zone go through. Some work at their actual jobs putting in work on their game as free time allows. Others, through sites like or , lessen the monetary crunch they incur on their game even to the point where their income surpasses their real job where they can quit it devoting all their time to game development.

I am waiting on my first release and hopefully my first subscribers to help me with the costs I game has cost me. We will see. ;)
what does that have to do with anything?
I play lots of games and many of them have bugs at some point, what did piss me off is when the game fuck my save of the 2 game and i have to restart the game with neutral choices in the 3 game, i like to play with my saves and that bug forced me to play with the default.

You have to play the prior episodes, and save exactly when it says too otherwise it will do things like reset all conditions to 0, double spend money at the start (of episode 2).

Anyway solve for a fatal bug.. in Ep3.

When you phone Lisa (as instructed) the game is looking for the label "lisaphonecall" but the dev appears to have labelled it "lisa_callep3". In addition they forgot to close the phone scene which would cause it to hang after getting the game to go to the right label.

the error will state that label "lisaphonecall" is not found in script.rpy file at line 667

However to fix it change the label and extra text on line 6462 - 6464 or find "label lisa_callep3:"
to read

label lisaphonecall:
hide screen phonebook2
$ lisa_callep3 = True

I am not 100% sure this doesnt affect anything else yet Ive only just started the 0.02 content.
i did and my save did work before this update so i dont think thats the problem.

Anyone having this issue:
You do not have enough aunt points from episode2!!!(she didn`t send you naked picture!)
Either re-play episode2 or start episode3 with new game with full stats. Don`t complain if you don`t get the plot tho...
i did have enough aunt points, the problem was that the mc did say i did not have any photos even though the aunt did send me pictures and no photos = no call from sister and game bugged.
 
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Sorry I just can`t recreate that same bug in order to fix it... Something similar happened once before(not related to this) and I even loaded save from that user but it worked on my pc ;) So, just don`t know what can be the issue... And no, you are the only with that problem.
 

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EP 3 how to solve dis
The same issue I can't remember if we had taken pictures in the previous update or what but either way I don't see any pictures.
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Sorry I just can`t recreate that same bug in order to fix it... Something similar happened once before(not related to this) and I even loaded save from that user but it worked on my pc ;) So, just don`t know what can be the issue... And no, you are the only with that problem.
then you may have not read previous comments bro.
Im not the only one with that bug as i said.
It must be some kind of variable you changed or who knows.
 

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The save file I created in ch2 doesn't work in ch3 anyone have any idea how to fix this as I didn't have the route for the shop girl or mc's girlfriend route and the only way to carry on playing ch3 is if you go the full lewd route ??
 

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The save file I created in ch2 doesn't work in ch3 anyone have any idea how to fix this as I didn't have the route for the shop girl or mc's girlfriend route and the only way to carry on playing ch3 is if you go the full lewd route ??
Yes, I opted to continue working on full lewd route... its a matter of time and money. its basically end of the road for that choice...
 

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What an awesome post... Really enjoyed reading and found myself in some of the lines :)

If you need any help, advice please feel free to contact me... It was very hard for me in the beginning and that experience could be of crucial importance to someone like you if I understand correctly wanting to become a dev... I`m sure many other devs would gladly help... Cheers!
Been working on the Pangaia games for a few years, decades even. Here is a "brief" look at my . Began getting serious a couple of years ago. Been doing pre-production Daz3D past few years and, if I say so myself, I'm getting good at it. I have a lot to learn on that front though. The game engine I've decided on, Ren'Py, is least well known out of the three I was looking at. The other two are RPGM and Twine.

There are more I could discuss but this IS your thread after all. :LOL:
 

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what does that have to do with anything?
Ok? What is "what" and what is "anything"?

If you are discussing what does a logical argument have to do with the game development process? Why game-breaker bugs need a restart, load a previous save or using a savegame with default choices? Have you tried using a previous save? The one you are using may for one reason or another been corrupted and that corruption may not happen again.

Or are you saying that individuals who have gone through specialized training in tracking bugs would have no bearing in a discussion on their specialty, bug-hunting?

I play lots of games and many of them have bugs at some point, what did piss me off is when the game fuck my save of the 2 game and i have to restart the game with neutral choices in the 3 game, i like to play with my saves and that bug forced me to play with the default.
First, what happened to your savegame is what people in the know call a "bug". It may have been a unique occurring bug, it may not happen again because all of the requirements for that particular crash are SOOO rare the bug is for all intents and purposes a non-repeatable bug.

As far as "forcing you to play with the default choices", I have stated ways that may get you past it: load a previous save, restart the game, or stop playing the game. And do recall, this is an alpha version. Shit happens in alpha games.

"Alpha is a game that does not have all of its components. Not all of the programming as been added, which means restarting the game is QUITE common,"​

This game IS an alpha game. It will most likely have game-breaking bugs. The only thing that will get you past the default path when a game-breaker error kicks off: RESTART THE GAME FROM THE BEGINNING!

If you do not want to do this don't play this or any other game that is in development because problems of this nature may happen. Wait until it has the [completed] tag.

I've had to restart games I had put hours into because there are coding changes made that will corrupt the game if not restarted. I've stumbled across game-breakers that led to restarting my game also. I get a bit peeved when this happens at times, then I go along the path of a grown-up person following one of these options: load a previous save, restart the game, wait for that game to
[complete], or don't play the game ever again. The ONLY times I have just quit a game never to return, there were other reasons behind this choice (I was not enjoying that game anymore).

Basically, games are for your enjoyment. If you are not enjoying playing a particular game, stop playing it. Nuff said.

BTW: I have been playing computer games since the mid-80s. I have work for Origin as a beta tester. I have several large CD books filled with games. I have in excess of over 1000 games on . I have accounts on this site, , and other sites of this nature. So "I play lots of games" too. Now, I am not saying I have played them through to completion, just letting you know that I understand where you are coming from.
 

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Ok? What is "what" and what is "anything"?

If you are discussing what does a logical argument have to do with the game development process? Why game-breaker bugs need a restart, load a previous save or using a savegame with default choices? Have you tried using a previous save? The one you are using may for one reason or another been corrupted and that corruption may not happen again.

Or are you saying that individuals who have gone through specialized training in tracking bugs would have no bearing in a discussion on their specialty, bug-hunting?
what i mean is that bugs in games will happen no matter how good you are, it doenst matter if you have worked all your life, mistakes happens.

First, what happened to your savegame is what people in the know call a "bug". It may have been a unique occurring bug, it may not happen again because all of the requirements for that particular crash are SOOO rare the bug is for all intents and purposes a non-repeatable bug.

As far as "forcing you to play with the default choices", I have stated ways that may get you past it: load a previous save, restart the game, or stop playing the game. And do recall, this is an alpha version. Shit happens in alpha games.

"Alpha is a game that does not have all of its components. Not all of the programming as been added, which means restarting the game is QUITE common,"
This game IS an alpha game. It will most likely have game-breaking bugs. The only thing that will get you past the default path when a game-breaker error kicks off: RESTART THE GAME FROM THE BEGINNING!

If you do not want to do this don't play this or any other game that is in development because problems of this nature may happen. Wait until it has the [completed] tag.

I've had to restart games I had put hours into because there are coding changes made that will corrupt the game if not restarted. I've stumbled across game-breakers that led to restarting my game also. I get a bit peeved when this happens at times, then I go along the path of a grown-up person following one of these options: load a previous save, restart the game, wait for that game to [complete], or don't play the game ever again. The ONLY times I have just quit a game never to return, there were other reasons behind this choice (I was not enjoying that game anymore).

Basically, games are for your enjoyment. If you are not enjoying playing a particular game, stop playing it. Nuff said.

BTW: I have been playing computer games since the mid-80s. I have work for Origin as a beta tester. I have several large CD books filled with games. I have in excess of over 1000 games on . I have accounts on this site, , and other sites of this nature. So "I play lots of games" too. Now, I am not saying I have played them through to completion, just letting you know that I understand where you are coming from.
again you go in a spiral rambling me something im not asking for and i know fully well so dont waste time in writing all that next time , however "unique ocurring " is not true considering im not the only one that did have this bug.
As for the last you said in having to restart the game that much is true but that doenst necessary means people will not get pissed off in the fact that they have to start all over again and even more when they are forced to play with the "default" choices etc

on a side note i never said id stop playing, i said it did piss me off nothing more, dont put words on myself i never said.
 
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Just to be clear - you have a point. Its a game breaking bug! If in episode2 you don`t kiss aunt(go all the way) it will be game stopping bug in episode3!!!
I`m aware of that mistake and I decided not to change that in episode3.(needs re-doing episode2 actually) My solution is to either replay ep2 (cause that path is important for the story) or give an option to start episode3 with full stats...
My only problem is why does it happen if you start a new game in episode 3. Its almost impossible... It must be an issue with the save from episode 2 and not with starting new game from episode3.

I`m sorry for misleading everyone who maybe wanted to follow their own path! Story branching is very time consuming and complex! Just consider it as game ending choice...
 

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Just to be clear - you have a point. Its a game breaking bug! If in episode2 you don`t kiss aunt(go all the way) it will be game stopping bug in episode3!!!
I`m aware of that mistake and I decided not to change that in episode3.(needs re-doing episode2 actually) My solution is to either replay ep2 (cause that path is important for the story) or give an option to start episode3 with full stats...
My only problem is why does it happen if you start a new game in episode 3. Its almost impossible... It must be an issue with the save from episode 2 and not with starting new game from episode3.

I`m sorry for misleading everyone who maybe wanted to follow their own path! Story branching is very time consuming and complex! Just consider it as game ending choice...
there is no hard feelings from my part and i certainly like the game, i was just pissed off that it fucked up my save game but nothing more, im not hating the game on the contrary i love it and i can understand / see how story branching can be a lot of time consuming...not only that, it will also be less content in updates for the players too , i did not have a problem with my save in 0.1 though and restarting the game with full stats did solve the problem.
 
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