VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.11] [Lazy Monkey]

[falconhawk223]

I still hope we get to see Josephine again in the future. Still the hottest scene in the game

Josephine is hot but her scene is terrible. You could hardly see anything because of the Camera angles

 

[GarudoSCHE]

After reading a few comment, now I'm really confused and not sure if I'm in the love or corruption path with the queen/mom, both seems to have a lot of passion that for sure, I did my best to avoid any situation where the MC takes advantage of the characters when they are drunk or things like that, but now I feel bad because I think I took advantage of her libido issue, I was sure that was the love path because she seemed to want it too...

To get to the path of love:
1) After talking to the Elves, you'll have a dialogue with her: agree with her.
2) In the previous episode, you had the opportunity to kiss her; do so.
After that, in the new episode, you'll get scenes with her on the path of love.Only decisions made during one's stay in the West are taken into account; everything that happened before that apparently has little significance.

 

[GarudoSCHE]

I think it's a bad idea to get rid of Alaina or Conrad. It would disrupt the status quo and give one side more power over the prince. Alaina is a puppeteer and Conrad is a disrespectful hatemonger so unless we also get a chance to remove the remaining side from the board in chapter 2, I will continue to keep them both.

But, say LM gives us a chance to get rid of them both? That would allow the prince to forge his own path without being influenced by elves or humans and that would be my chosen route absolutely. Middle of the road, a unifying force like Val wants him to be.

That's actually an interesting perspective. Even Ludwig the Cat said to remain neutral as long as possible. But I think in that case, we'll still have to make a decision sooner or later.

Edit:: I don't know about others, but when I chose the status quo after talking to Serafina, a bug occurred on the final slides. Although, maybe that's the intention...

 

[GibboBtw]

I don't know why we would murder her with our own hands like that. That's completely over the top lol. Totally psychotic, tbh. Mom and sis did not approve.

I think it was done mostly for pure shock value. It was so out of left field and I fucking loved it. Nice to see Elis actually get his hands dirty and do something.

MY EMPEROR!!!

Plus, Alaina DOESN'T shout out the bombshell truth that could seriously mess up MC's political standing even as she is getting beat to death. From her point of view, she didn't do anything wrong, and she even says so. Why only her and not mom? Why is what she did so wrong to MC? She made sure MC got to where he is now. And she already told him everything earlier. It's pretty much a grey character that had understandable motivation and wanted to maneuver the MC onto throne one way or another, for the hope that he would make favorable decisions about elves due to his half-blood nature.

But anyways, that's the cool thing about this story. Every faction has aspects that you can sympathize with and aspects you might find wrong.

No she doesn't you're right. She just once again, for some unknown reason, HINTS at revealing it like some form of blackmail. Just like how she does if instead of pretending to trust her previously, you just call her a traitor. Right before she flees through a portal, what does she say. "Remember what I know" which in my head. Is just a pure threat of blackmail again. Which IMO is a very strange thing to say, if you're really trying to argue that you're loyal to someone. Hinting at revealing something like that when they don't instantly trust you, is a choice. Oh wait, it's because she's a control freak and can't let go of being Elis Puppetmaster...

As for why her and not mother, it's like I said before. IMO, she will now always choose her kids, over the "elven cause" which is perfect for me. Because I want to end, the bloody elven cause.

And I'm just really not a fan of how Alaina handles that scene anyway, vs if you accuse Conrad instead. He handles it like someone who is actually loyal IMO, just frustrated. Just tells Elis he's making a stupid choice removing someone who is actually Loyal, and then leaves.

VS Alaina, who I was going to kill regardless. But she made it rather easy tbh, as she threatens to kill people, then has to be restrained. Because she can't handle not being in control of a situation. She then proceeds to attempt to throw her long term "friend" Sera under the bus with her. And then when that fails, once again brings up the blackmail type shit like that's going to help her...

She's a classic case to me of that ol saying of 'No one can serve two masters' and she already has her master in the form of her little Elven cause. Therefore, not trustworthy to be in a powerful position like she's in. And she knows far too much sensitive information to be allowed to live. Simple really. She had to go.

 

[flame13th]

Gotta say that the story is interesting so far.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I think it's a bad idea to get rid of Alaina or Conrad. It would disrupt the status quo and give one side more power over the prince. Alaina is a puppeteer and Conrad is a disrespectful hatemonger so unless we also get a chance to remove the remaining side from the board in chapter 2, I will continue to keep them both.

But, say LM gives us a chance to get rid of them both? That would allow the prince to forge his own path without being influenced by elves or humans and that would be my chosen route absolutely. Middle of the road, a unifying force like Val wants him to be.

We'll have to wait until Chapter 2, but if Alaina is a snake like Cass. I think people who killed her but refused to kill Cass are in for some real heartbreak. That's why I get a bit of a good laugh when people only do things halfway. People didn't want to kill Cass because she's part of the prophecy and she was believed to be Elis sister at the time. But now they're potentially diving head first into the snake dead end by killing Alaina via being recklessly.

I'm here for it either way, since the goal of my Isis playthrough is pure chaos. No half steps or anything like that. Humans, Elves or anyone else, it doesn't matter.

 

[falconhawk223]

No she doesn't you're right. She just once again, for some unknown reason, HINTS at revealing it like some form of blackmail.

Maybe I need to reread that scene but it didn't sound like she was implying blackmail at all it was the opposite. She sounded more like she was trying to convince Elis of her loyalty by talking about how she kept it secret the whole time

She's a classic case to me of that ol saying of 'No one can serve two masters' and she already has her master in the form of her little Elven cause

A cause is not a master it's a motivation. It's her motivation for serving Elis and she's choosing to put her faith in the idea that he'll help the elves. I don't really see what's wrong with that. That's probably the case for every character except the Mom and Elin who are just loyal because they're related. All the vassals and everyone else support Elis based one their expectations for him rather than just blind support

 

[With The]

To be honest, I trust Alaina more than Conrad. She's been with us since our banishment. I know Conrad is family, but if I have to choose between him and Alaina, I'm picking the one who's been by our side. Also, since Conrad was the MC father servant, he probably has his own secrets.

 

[GibboBtw]

Maybe I need to reread that scene but it didn't sound like she was implying blackmail at all it was the opposite. She sounded more like she was trying to convince Elis of her loyalty by talking about how she kept it secret the whole time

I just read it as being the dumbest fucking thing she could have brought up. She could have argued her innocence, tried to convince her lovely friend Sera, tried anything really. Instead she does everything wrong and just flamed my dislike of her more. Well she ain't "playing chess" with my little emperor anymore. I only wish I could have had Elis fucking Fortnite dance on her corpse after or something. Really drive home the disrespect...

A cause is not a master it's a motivation. It's her motivation for serving Elis and she's choosing to put her faith in the idea that he'll help the elves. I don't really see what's wrong with that. That's probably the case for every character except the Mom and Elin who are just loyal because they're related. All the vassals and everyone else support Elis based one their expectations for him rather than just blind support

Her cause is 100% her master. She's bound to it, would do anything for it. Including die for it or sacrifice others for it. Sounds like a master to me. I don't trust her, never did. Just like if this game had some religious zealot preacher nut. I wouldn't be very trusting of him either. I want people who are going to be loyal to my main man Elis at his side, no matter what fucked up shit he might want to do. Not some puppetmaster hoebag.

To be honest, I trust Alaina more than Conrad. She's been with us since our banishment. I know Conrad is family, but if I have to choose between him and Alaina, I'm picking the one who's been by our side. Also, since Conrad was the MC father servant, he probably has his own secrets.

But she's the one who orchestrated that whole "being by our side the whole time" thing?? And it was just so she could keep her little puppet close... Fuck that woman.

 

[falconhawk223]

She could have argued her innocence

She does argue her innocence

Her cause is 100% her master. She's bound to it, would do anything for it. Including die for it or sacrifice others for it.

Yes, so it literally everyone else that's the entire point. That's the whole reason the vassals are vassals in the first place and the reason why the empire broke up. Nobody outside of Elis's mom and sisters are blindly loyal. Everyone else is loyal because they believe Elis is going to do what they want.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

So now there are 3 characters that can either be alive or dead. Either the amount of scenes they can play a part in are going to shrink, or the plot flags calling up scene combinations are going to get crazy.

 

[falconhawk223]

I just read it as being the dumbest fucking thing she could have brought up. She could have argued her innocence, tried to convince her lovely friend Sera, tried anything really. Instead she does everything wrong and just flamed my dislike of her more.

As I said last time we talked I feel like you're pretty bias when it comes to characters and if you already dislike a character(Alania, Isis) you assume the worse possible thing about them, but if you like a character(Cass,Aurora) you tend to over look things. I don't really see the point in discussing motivation with you because you will always see those characters you dislike in the worse light possible even if there is an explainable reason for their actions. In my opinion you always misread those character and try to make their actions 10 times worse than they actually are like the Isis letters to home thing, which to me just read like a pretty harmless prank. Nothing I got in that scene made it sound like Alania was trying to play chess or blackmail Elis

 

[dodgingnoir]

Hi Filipis, does you android port come with a walk-trough built in?

 

[DRinWV]

What did it say?
Tried scanning it on jotti and virus total, didn't find anything. (Not on windows so can't check defender)

Ok Found the actual Defender entry.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

To be honest, I trust Alaina more than Conrad. She's been with us since our banishment. I know Conrad is family, but if I have to choose between him and Alaina, I'm picking the one who's been by our side. Also, since Conrad was the MC father servant, he probably has his own secrets.

Conrad had the potential to be way more dangerous than Alaina to Elis. Especially if he knew about the fact that his oldest brother took over after his older brother was killed. Since Conrad would legitimately be the next person who's supposed to sit on the throne.

If that truth ever got out, it wouldn't be surprising if Elis whole family got killed. And you best believe Cass will feel some type of way about it. Since Alaina did all of that basically for Elis. And that negatively affected Cass the most.

Unfortunately though, I think the whole Conrad stuff is going to be rather minor going forward. Since he can be killed now, if I'm not mistaken. I haven't did the scene yet.

 

[Strategus]

Out of curiosity after finishing the patch, how many people here are ride or die for Cass, lol?

 

[Lord Kata]

I still hope we get to see Josephine again in the future. Still the hottest scene in the game

Yes can’t wait for more Josephine and Alaina in chap 2

 

[GibboBtw]

She does argue her innocence

Incredibly poorly. And then just lashes out and attempts to throws her friend under the bus with her. Instead of talking to her and trying to convince her at least.

Yes, so it literally everyone else that's the entire point. That's the whole reason the vassals are vassals in the first place and the reason why the empire broke up. Nobody outside of Elis's mom and sisters are blindly loyal. Everyone else is loyal because they believe Elis is going to do what they want.

Not necessarily. Some people that are vassals will be loyal simply because it's the status-quo. I don't think ALL of them are only loyal because they think they will get something. That would be mental. Some of them just want to rule in peace and are happy to do whatever their ruler wishes.

And as for the ones that will be loyal because "they think Elis is going to do what they want" As long as it's something that I actually intend for Elis to do, and isn't something I have no intention of ever doing, such as 'saving elvenkind' or some shit. But instead is something like 'restoring the empire', or 'wiping out the elves'. I accept them as my good bois, and I know we're going to do great things together. I've even actually already spotted one of my new #1 bois. A TRUE BELIEVER.

Spoiler: GOAT

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As I said last time we talked I feel like you're pretty bias when it comes to characters and if you already dislike a character(Alania, Isis) you assume the worse possible thing about them, but if you like a character(Cass,Aurora) you tend to over look things. I don't really see the point in discussing motivation with you because you will always see those characters you dislike in the worse light possible even if there is an explainable reason for their actions. In my opinion you always misread those character and try to make their actions 10 times worse than they actually are like the Isis letters to home thing, which to me just read like a pretty harmless prank. Nothing I got in that scene made it sound like Alania was trying to play chess or blackmail Elis

Oh for the love of god. How many times do I have to say this. I. Am. Biased. Against. Elves. I thought that would have been abundantly clear by now. Especially with the amount of times I've said it.

And as for not seeing anything wrong with Alaina, the dev himself has added things to backup parts of what I'm saying.

Spoiler: LIKE THIS, CHESS BABY.

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If I really was talking 100% nonsense here. Why would the Dev give us the option to kill her off like that? with the reasoning HE HIMSELF gives, being "she knows too much" "her not liking lack of control" and her "playing chess with our family as pawns"

It's all right there bro... The Dev clearly sees at least partly where I'm coming from. I'm trying to make Elis the master of his own destiny on the throne. Nobody trying to pull his strings and nobody trying to control him. So he can rule as he sees fit.

 

[burbero]

I can't believe that Alaina has been made the scapegoat. She is neither a blackmailer nor a puppet master. Blackmail involves coercion, and as far as I know, she never said, "Do this or I'll expose you." She was just trying to protect herself. Besides, she never whispered anything in Elis's ear. Elis isn't a puppet. It's true that Alaina is plotting and pulling strings, but she's doing it all for Elis, hoping that one day she can help the elves living lives of banditry. Can you really blame her? The people are suffering.
I don't believe Alaina is a threat. Even when accused, she doesn't reveal information. She threatens to, but even when she's exiled or beaten, she doesn't.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I need more Arcadia, Josephine, Priscilla, Valeria and even more Sera in Chapter 2. Since Una kind of grew on me. I want some of her too. Basically, I need to plan a trip to the west.

It's actually kind of crazy on the pregnancy front now. Since we know Val was accounted for. That means Lockhart is going to be shocked when he finds out his mom and sister-in-law is pregnant. The same with Valerian finding out about his mom. If Sera and Elin are starting to show signs. Sera only being two weeks and Elin around a month or two. The women in the west are definitely feeling it as well.

That's why I need to know if there's going to be a major time skip for Chapter 2 or brief transitions in time to show the progress of the main women. I don't think it's going to skip the birth of Elis first set of children. And since a month was directly mentioned. I think that's the timeframe of the first minor skip.