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There's one more thing. I think humans are much worse than elves. Elis and her siblings are half-elves; her mother is an elf. Yet, humans and even their vassals insult and curse elves in front of Elis. If Conrad were a candidate for the throne, they would choose him without hesitation.
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When I see this, the different paths and choices of last chapter... Maybe there is a different answer depending on path.
The who and why changes, we see multiple dimensions after all. White, Red and Green are general directions, but I don't think it locks you in.
First tail is Lady Alaina, she planned it and represent Elves. However I feel she might not be the only one here, Elin, might also fit here, and her behavior is becoming more and more Cass if you sleep with her. Mother also is somewhat shady.
Wrapped around the throne is Conrad, or potentially Isis. Human path I would say.
Cass is the DAGGER over the crown more than anything, the tool, the weapon. Regardless I feel this is the neutral path. She is not neutral, however she keeps the west on their toes, maybe even the elves and she wants the Empire, an Empire where she has considerable stake in it. She dying just opens up for another dagger to take her spot, west troubles?
I do wonder how the Moon fits in (mysterious lady ?), maybe it's none of them or all.
Many visions, many questions, a curse of not knowing and multiple entities trying to impact you. Which might explain your King's attempt to hold on to the throne, to protect you from technically being the king/emperor and thus be inflicted by a curse?
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Man this game is way too high IQ for me. Too many routes. Stuff you see in a route but not another. Colored endings. Mess in the West.
But somehow I love it.
I need a WT or a book or something, stuff's way too convoluted.
But somehow I love it.
I need a WT or a book or something, stuff's way too convoluted.
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Damn I left this forum at Page 254 and 24 hours later it is at Page 266, this thread went crazy after the update
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Alaina literally can't blackmail him with that information in the first place. It incriminates herself the most. What she's going to tell everyone by snitching on him? That he's not the rightful heir and that the only reason he's on the throne is because of elven intervention. They're just going to point the finger right back at her and group her with all other elves. Blackmail only works when the blackmailer is in the position of power. Alaina very much wasn't in the position of power.
The reason Alaina told Elis that in the first place was to convey how far she went for him. Since he had doubts. She didn't have to tell him shit, really. If she was against him. Just like how Cass didn't tell Elis anything if he didn't follow her requests enough.
We legitimately see on screen humans killing pregnant elven women for fun. Killing children and everything. Anyone who actually believes that humans are somehow saints in this game are delusional. There's no good sides in this story.
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You're really not giving Alaina enough credit here. How and why, would she not just leave out the parts of "Elven Intervention"? and instead just make up some bullshit other rumor that leaves her looking clean as a whistle and casts doubt on Elis father. All it takes is her desire to do so.
What do you mean "she didn't have to tell him shit?"
It was plain as day to see that she was clearly losing control of the situation due to the whole thing with Conrad, and Elis was starting to doubt her more and more. That's the only reason she revealed anything. Because she was threatened, and was losing control. And I don't think anybody has ever said "she was against him" unless I'm mistaken? it's that she's trying to puppet him and control him from the shadows. Again, Elis says as much if you pick the path against her. So it's a potential canon feeling Elis can have towards her, that the Dev himself has realised.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
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Oh wow that's messed up.
Don't worry, my Elis is going to adopt a new mandatory policy to cover this. Known as "spawn killing" instead. It's gonna be like that ol saying of 'out of the frying pan, into the fire.' except in this case the "frying pan" will be a womb, and the fire will remain a fire.
uhhhhhhh that last one might have been a little bit too far...I'M JUST KIDDING...
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it's simple...i hate whoever i cannot rape or enslaveGod is sad with all the Alaina hate on here
but i did banish alaina so i get a chance to rape her later
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Okay, I just want to make clear that I am not associated with this man. I am not a proponent of rape and slavery. Only a little bit of genocide.it's simple...i hate whoever i cannot rape or enslave
Weren't you the one who already said that it was basically just shock value. The rest of mc's comments are just paranoia.and I never said she wasn't playing chess in general I said she wasn't playing chess or trying to manipulate Elis in that scene. She was just begging for mercy and promising that she could keep quite. She does play chess but not against Elis. And Alania never really had enough control over Elis in the first place to call him a puppet
I'm not really sure Isis would represent the human path. She says this update that southerners are treated almost as badly as elves are. And the whole vision with the daughter made it sound like her bloodline is special somehow and feels like a rival to the starhead blood. Isis kind of feels like a conqueror everyone kind of thing
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No, it would've been ruined if 1.0 was the last we saw of them before the time skip, but LM did manage to turn the situation around with 1.1: the Queen now doesn't mind having sex with MC anymore (she calls it a beautiful mistake).Dang, so from what I am hearing here the Love path got short changed again with the queen. I stopped playing mid way through, cause I had problems with some of the pathing choices and locked scenes based on class, but was excited to give this another chance.
But I guess not. If Lazy_Monkey doesn't care about the Love path and can't give if equal treatment, why should I care. He obviously only cares about Lust path. Its just mood killing and sucks all enjoyment, cause I want love path, but when he shows favoritism, what's the point.
He should just remove love path all together if this is what he planned to do. Just very letdown that the dev doesn't seem to care.
The only issue still remains is that the Love path doesn't have any foreseeable reward for being patient - Seraphina gets pregnant on all paths, so why not just go Lust path and get all those sweet nasty scenes with her from the start of the game? Before 1.1, I assumed that the Love path would have Seraphina agree to bear your children, but evidently, her pregnancy is unavoidable no matter the path, so the Love path simply doesn't have any advantage over the Lust path - she even talks more about getting pregnant on the Lust path than the Love path (even if she actively asks for MC to cum inside her, compared to "panicking" about creampies on the Lust path).
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I don't think Alaina would be content with status quo or better yet a concord where Elves would be at a disadvantage, she is too much of a nationalist for that. Prince is Elin's first lover, on top of that she is naive and in love with Elis since childhood. In a way, you're her whole world. Even the reason she decides to become a mage was the Prince. In any case, I don't really think she means any harm to those innocent souls.When I see this, the different paths and choices of last chapter... Maybe there is a different answer depending on path.
The who and why changes, we see multiple dimensions after all. White, Red and Green are general directions, but I don't think it locks you in.
First tail is Lady Alaina, she planned it and represent Elves. However I feel she might not be the only one here, Elin, might also fit here, and her behavior is becoming more and more Cass if you sleep with her. Mother also is somewhat shady.
Wrapped around the throne is Conrad, or potentially Isis. Human path I would say.
Cass is the DAGGER over the crown more than anything, the tool, the weapon. Regardless I feel this is the neutral path. She is not neutral, however she keeps the west on their toes, maybe even the elves and she wants the Empire, an Empire where she has considerable stake in it. She dying just opens up for another dagger to take her spot, west troubles?
I do wonder how the Moon fits in (mysterious lady ?), maybe it's none of them or all.
Many visions, many questions, a curse of not knowing and multiple entities trying to impact you. Which might explain your King's attempt to hold on to the throne, to protect you from technically being the king/emperor and thus be inflicted by a curse?
Cass is a control freak, not power-hungry. She is smart enough to know that she can't partake in ruling the empire without you, I mean whole coup was designed over the possibility that you would agree to it. Under the overconfident and sarcastic facade lies an insecure girl, thats why she goes extreme. That said, however extreme she goes, ruling an empire on her own is not one of them.
I don't consider -for now- Moon as a deity but a source of power in the grand scheme of things. There are *beings that want to break the cycles and ones that want to protect it. Moon, as an object, has taken place with the ones that want to break the cycle like Selina and Mysterious Woman.
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it's simple...i hate whoever i cannot rape or enslave
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I wasn't really speaking about the fact that we can kill her. I was more speaking about the killing its self. You know, doming the fuck out of her with a metal cup is a bit out there when it comes to killing from what I've seen at least.
And I disagree, we will never have any idea of what she was going to say if that scene went on for longer, or what she was going to reveal. As Elis kind of abruptly just brutalizes the fuck out of her. I can't imagine she had time to think much after that.
And I'm not sure why people keep bringing up this "she was never against Elis" thing as a plus to her. Well, obviously she wasn't. As he was still her little puppet creation. Answer me this honestly. If Elis lets her live and starts doing things that are not entirely to the benefit of the Elves. Do you think she would do nothing and still be with him? or start trying to put the screws to him and get him to move in that direction?
Cmon dude...She straight up masterminded a way that she could be in control of him for most of his childhood into young adulthood. She could have done whatever she wanted with him. It's just that she figured a mostly hands off approach was the way to go earlier on. And she could just keep him cooking in the north on very little information. Until he was ready, and she could use him. Slight MISTAKE on her part IMO.
She's my little frail angel.
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With the queen I feel like it's just how you prefer the queen to act in their scenes. It doesn't need any real benefit. Imo even though I vastly preferred the scenes on the list route both this chapter and last chapter. I disliked how annoyed Sera was at the whole thing. It's just sex because she can't get off with Elis around and otherwise she wouldn't consider it.