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FalconLover420

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wow just wow, this update left me with some questions answered and more questions.
Selina while confirming she is my daughter is very cryptic on what is going on aside from stating do not trust the script.
Also your children's personality depends on the mother, its fun to witness that.

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it was a nice update tho, thanks!
 

Dustellar

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Oh fuck, my save is dead, now I will have to find one with all or most of my decisions.
 

Filipis

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I disagree, cause those choices like coup and other things are choices in game you can make. That is totally fine.

You say experience a little differently, yeah that is also fine, the problem is why is only Lia's scenes locked behind a class, and not other main girls. And I don't want to play bookworm, I just want a couple scenes added back at least to make it fair, cause once again, why isn't Elin locked to mage scenes mainly or Cass to Warrior. You can get all Elin's scenes except one based on choices not class.

You say I can still romance, what is the point of a romance if you skip all the content. What, I get 2 scenes, (skipping like 5) really great romance.:rolleyes:
Might as well just kill her off.

I just don't see why Lia has her content locked through class and others through only choice. It is the biggest disappointment and makes zero sense. Just treat her the same as the other main girls.

And as for replay, you can already do that, with which bride, coup choice, corruption and love, I shouldn't have to play a specific class or miss all of a Lia's scenes, cause it doesn't work that way for the other girls. Plus I don't have time to play every game 10 times, there are other games, life, etc. to do.
I mean, if you want to experience the full Elin romance, you want to be a Mage so you can travel worlds with her. all that stuff helps develop their relationship, even if it has no attached variables that the game keeps track of (except the telepathic link).

And I disagree about the Coup decision being "fine" - you literally just lose out on important lewd content, but also story beats. You miss out on Lia scenes, Elin scenes, and the hottest of them all - Queen's scenes. That's a pretty big fucking deal, if you ask me.

There is practically no benefit (still true, as of 1.0) to avoiding the Coup entirely, just as there is no consequence to be on the Queen's Corruption path prior to 0.8 (the bath scene). Somethings just get overlooked on such a tight development schedule. The game as a whole still rocks, but we can't ignore the 'cracks' here and there - some smaller than others.
 
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It says this is v1.0. Does that mean this VN is complete, as in that it is ready to be read fully without having to wait years?
Thanks for the info.
 

Filipis

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It says this is v1.0. Does that mean this VN is complete, as in that it is ready to be read fully without having to wait years?
Thanks for the info.
Do you see the Completed tag anywhere? No.

Because it's not completed. Chapter 1 will end with update 1.1, after which comes Chapter 2.This game is "far from over", per the dev's words.
 
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FalconLover420

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Yeha, you lose some of the Elin romance with no mage, but you still get romance, the lewds don't decrease, like Lia does on bookworm. Like what is the reason we can't get the dinner scene wirh her before marriage sex, or chronicles one where its talking about paintings, and such. Those feel like they shouldn't be class locked.

As for coup, stopped playing, actually fast forward through some, cause was tired of getting shafted on Lia scenes, but actually you don't get Queen or Elin scenes if you do any part of coup. You lose two. Lia actually gets one that isn't path locked regardless of coup, amazing concept.

If you go through part of coup, the only thing added is some extra cass scenes, losing a queen and elin scene. Felt like a decent trade off and story branch, unless somethings are missed later, that I don't know about.

And the Lia thing feels like a pretty big crack to me that is putting a major damper on this game. Like still don't know why those two scenes previously mentioned are path locked, like literally for dinner Lia scene, all that wa mentioned from quick glance was the party scene, dance, non path locked scene.
Honestly, it doesn't really matter at this point of any early scenes aside from you stopping Elin with having sex with her husband and having the romance tag with the queen.


And honestly, the two scenes don't really matter because 1) Queen scenes are just shoved in and don't make sense. 2) Elin realistically has a scene V.9

Finally Lia, you can have sex with her on any path, the only thing you "miss" is just the playing doctor and the extended sex scene at the party. You can still sex after coup, and recent update.
 

Filipis

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Not sure on other stuff with Elin and Queen cause didn't focus or get there, stopped, I wss just talking about immediate coup choice lewd scenes, which is fine, either way, not my main focus. Just saying not going through with coup gets those scenes to that guy, not other way around.

But with Lia, You actually miss a whole lot more than that. You miss doctor, didn't know about extended party scene but that, you scene called chronicles, you miss the dinner lewd scene before marriage sex, you miss library sex. I think that is it

So overall you miss 4 scenes and an extended scene. You only get party scene and after coup scene and current update according to you, so you miss a whole lot just for chosen class(unless there is some bug I am unaware of), which is my problem.
Actually - the blowjob from Lia during MC's wedding dinner depends on whether or not you suggest Conrad for the Council. If you choose him, then Lia doesn't get drunk enough to blow you. Pick Aker or don't make a suggestion at all to get the wedding dinner blowjob with Lia - it's not class-locked.

And no, if you prevent the Coup from happening at all, you get 0 scenes with Queen, Lia or Elin. If you let the Coup happen - but don't agree to it, then you still get the scenes with all the girls. You have to resist Cass at all points, though. To me, that was a massive crack that almost ruined the game.
 

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Do you see the Completed tag anywhere? No.

Because it's not completed. Chapter 1 will end with update 1.1, after which comes Chapter 2.This game is "far from over", per the dev's words.
wish this game to be as long as it can be , its truly one of the hidden gems
 

MagicMan753

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Actually - the blowjob from Lia during MC's wedding dinner depends on whether or not you suggest Conrad for the Council. If you choose him, then Lia doesn't get drunk enough to blow you. Pick Aker or don't make a suggestion at all to get the wedding dinner blowjob with Lia - it's not class-locked.

And no, if you prevent the Coup from happening at all, you get 0 scenes with Queen, Lia or Elin. If you let the Coup happen - but don't agree to it, then you still get the scenes with all the girls. You have to resist Cass at all points, though. To me, that was a massive crack that almost ruined the game.
Didn't know that for dinner BJ, so good to know, but that still leaves 3 others path locked, which just feels wrong to me. But thanks for explanation on that scene.

And didn't know you meant that for coup, thought you meant jail path not getting scenes, so thanks for clarifying, then yeah, that does sound like a bit of a problem I guess.
 
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This game desperately needs a proper walkthrough so that i can visualise wtf is happening. I've completely lost track of what choices i've made and their consequences at this point.

Some things felt like massive choices and seemingly had zero impact. Others the opposite.
 

tmihee

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This game desperately needs a proper walkthrough so that i can visualise wtf is happening. I've completely lost track of what choices i've made and their consequences at this point.

Some things felt like massive choices and seemingly had zero impact. Others the opposite.
The game doesnt need a walkthrough but it does need a named save feature or smt to visualize to choices u have made in the past.
It could have a recap of key choices when we start chapter 2
But we do desperately need a named save feature, i have 25 saves pages and i cant remember which path i'm on :HideThePain:


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Something like this could be very good in the long run when choices start stacking, if theres things you haven't discovered yet just mark it as ???
Lazy Monkey probably already has smt like this mark down anyway cuz theres no way he can remember every decision in the story by memory, it just a matter of coding it in.
 

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I hope this game can have a harem ending that contain all or at least most of the Lis in the ending? :unsure:
 

w123t4

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The first chapter really need a remake, the quality of scene's graphic compare to later chapter is too obvious.
 

jadepaladin

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The first chapter really need a remake, the quality of scene's graphic compare to later chapter is too obvious.
We're not even done with the first chapter yet. :ROFLMAO:

I know what you mean though, that first update looks rough compared to later content.
 

classkidz

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why i cant load my save file? i try load evry single of my save file and it end up error.. help for solution plz.. tq
 

DrakoGhoul

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why i cant load my save file? i try load evry single of my save file and it end up error.. help for solution plz.. tq
You likely used a mod or something. Meaning you have to wait until that gets updated or start a new playthrough. That's the only reason your saves wouldn't work, as far as I know. Since all of my 7 playthrough saves work with no issue and I don't use any mods with them.
 
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With The

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With how many games and developer support page got deleted lately, kinda makes me worry. Dev do you didnt plan to create another backup ?
 

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I don't think this is the consequence of inbreeding (reminder that first-generation offspring of incest are statistically speaking only barely higher at risk of genetic defects. However, repeated inbreeding is what exponentially increases that chance), but rather has something to do with Selina being able to realize she is in a vision and even overpower Mirta's influence - a freakin' deity.

Selina is crazy powerful.
Wincest is real
 

tmihee

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Scrolling back a couple pages abt this Cass knife thing idk how the fuck people can read this whole ass game and think Cass is some "evil since birth" or a "she's always been like that" type of character.
Either they think this game's characters writing is pure ass (which it is not) or they have zero media literacy whatsoever

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classkidz

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You likely used a mod or something. Meaning you have to wait until that gets updated or start a new playthrough. That's the only reason your saves wouldn't work, as far as I know. Since all of my 7 playthrough saves work with no issue and I don't use any mods with them.
oic.. thats mean any save file that i save before i installed the mod should be ok, right? ok ill try.. tq bro
 
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