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Prokopije

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If the money is not stolen from the cafe, then the story with the elderly owner will not progress, will it?
Yes. I played do not steal money option and nothing between MC and owner happened. She can still work there for regular salary but there is no any kind of lewd content.
Shame that dev didn't followed same pattern with massage parlor.
 

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Hi Prokopije,

I got that... Players to be given the feature to skip content they do not like is a legit request.

I just say that the litle sister is not a MC, therefore it is not legit to provide choices that can have consequences about the game (shaping the story) through her events.
Important decisions that shapes the story are legit only when MC is involved to "make" them...

Side characters like the little sister and the others are just there to help build the universe, make it "alive" and for storytelling purposes.

For example, it is obvious that MC started the game as a good girl not willing to get corrupt but will change for bad thanks to pervy side characters like her landlord and the coffee shop owner... That is a plot choice the dev made : it is clear he wants to explore how such a good girl can become a slut throwing away her faithfull mind and the other positive principles she has... Beside the fact MC is among the hottest girls down there, it is a plot that hypes me a lot.

Best Regards.
Agree. That's why I said "skip it" option for those who are not interested to follow lives of side characters. Or not comfortable with specific scene/actors/fetish etc. It still happens, but in the background.
But for MC should be "avoid it" option - to never happen. Yup, there is that plot, but would be nice to have freedom with which character to advance that plot and which to avoid. I mean, most of us probably want to see her corrupted, but some players not with all characters. Some players are repulsed by old guys, some by muscular guys, some by young, bearded, fat, slim, all kinds of guys, so... not providing option to avoid disliked type just narrows audience because it will make people stop playing game.
I'd get it if that was the case from the beginning, but it's not. Everything was optional, caffee owner, few girls, this tech guy she's cleaning house for, so why it changed later and started forcing guys on MC is beyond me.
 

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Agree. That's why I said "skip it" option for those who are not interested to follow lives of side characters. Or not comfortable with specific scene/actors/fetish etc. It still happens, but in the background.
But for MC should be "avoid it" option - to never happen. Yup, there is that plot, but would be nice to have freedom with which character to advance that plot and which to avoid. I mean, most of us probably want to see her corrupted, but some players not with all characters. Some players are repulsed by old guys, some by muscular guys, some by young, bearded, fat, slim, all kinds of guys, so... not providing option to avoid disliked type just narrows audience because it will make people stop playing game.
I'd get it if that was the case from the beginning, but it's not. Everything was optional, caffee owner, few girls, this tech guy she's cleaning house for, so why it changed later and started forcing guys on MC is beyond me.
Good questions... I do not have the answers.

My opinion about that matter (content not avoidable) is that the dev may think such content is required to understand where the story goes. Who knows ?

Btw, I still wait the gym content to make sense and link again with MC; I am impatient to see it ^^!

That said, as a dev myself, I can see that making all optional is more complex coding wise than making all mandatory (more of a classic VN) because as a result of all optional, MC's corruption is not predictable (not easily, lot of cases) and devs need to know what her state is to make events content make sense according to it...

As the game title suggests it, it seems the dev wants to make a corrupted route and an innocent one with, obviously less sex because all sexual content involving MC so far is cheating on her boyfriend.
 
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WhiteSwan1916

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If the money is not stolen from the cafe, then the story with the elderly owner will not progress, will it?
Yes, that is the path I chose. I wanted MC follow her interests with peak solipsism, be open to compensate for BF's exaggerated chastity but only with worthy Chads not old losers (no landlord no coffee shop owner). However, in that case the moral points are pretty much locked above 950 and it is hard to get corrupted enough. Maybe in season 2 there will be more options...
 

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Yes. I played do not steal money option and nothing between MC and owner happened. She can still work there for regular salary but there is no any kind of lewd content.
Shame that dev didn't followed same pattern with massage parlor.
i think the difference is that a coffee shop is a relatively innocent place so there is reasonable assumption she can work there without issue but if you're signing up to work at a massage parlor that you know is run for prostitution you have to expect to be harassed from time to time, i bet that when the situation arises for her to finally take on a client we'll have a choice in the matter.
 

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i think the difference is that a coffee shop is a relatively innocent place so there is reasonable assumption she can work there without issue but if you're signing up to work at a massage parlor that you know is run for prostitution you have to expect to be harassed from time to time, i bet that when the situation arises for her to finally take on a client we'll have a choice in the matter.
Expect and let is happen are two hugely different things. Not to say, exactly because she expect something like that might happen, she should be prepared and have option to say "no" at first glimpse of harassment. Just because you know some girls there do prostitution it doesn't mean you will do it as well. If massage parlor is meant to be a mandatory prostitution for MC, than give us choice not to accept that job at all. At the end, as title says, it's innocence OR money. How are we supposed to choose "innocence" for MC if she's forced into "money"?!
 

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Expect and let is happen are two hugely different things. Not to say, exactly because she expect something like that might happen, she should be prepared and have option to say "no" at first glimpse of harassment. Just because you know some girls there do prostitution it doesn't mean you will do it as well. If massage parlor is meant to be a mandatory prostitution for MC, than give us choice not to accept that job at all. At the end, as title says, it's innocence OR money. How are we supposed to choose "innocence" for MC if she's forced into "money"?!
if we're being honest with ourselves there is really no way she wouldn't have banged that dude, she let her boss finger her for like $20 and she is going to turn down a couple grand while working in a massage parlor?
 

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if we're being honest with ourselves there is really no way she wouldn't have banged that dude, she let her boss finger her for like $20 and she is going to turn down a couple grand while working in a massage parlor?
Only if we assume all she cares about is money. Which bring us back to question where is option for innocence from the title? I mean, at the end, even being a hooker doesn't mean she'll do anything for money. Just because she accept $20 from X dude for X thing, it doesn't mean she wont say no to 500$ from Y dude for Y thing. Nah man, this is too disgusting not worth the money.
Hypothetically, if we were gigolos, would you do some nasty grandma for couple of grands? I wouldn't.
 

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Only if we assume all she cares about is money. Which bring us back to question where is option for innocence from the title? I mean, at the end, even being a hooker doesn't mean she'll do anything for money. Just because she accept $20 from X dude for X thing, it doesn't mean she wont say no to 500$ from Y dude for Y thing. Nah man, this is too disgusting not worth the money.
Hypothetically, if we were gigolos, would you do some nasty grandma for couple of grands? I wouldn't.
i get having standards, but gross old coffee shop skeleton John would lead us to believe her standards are pretty damn low.
 

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i get having standards, but gross old coffee shop skeleton John would lead us to believe her standards are pretty damn low.
Not for us who decided for MC to have nothing with him. That Skeleton wasn't mandatory. I played "not steal money" and nothing happened with him. So, MC in my playthrough have standards.
But unfortunately dev decided it's time to forbid having standards.
 

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Not for us who decided for MC to have nothing with him. That Skeleton wasn't mandatory. I played "not steal money" and nothing happened with him. So, MC in my playthrough have standards.
But unfortunately dev decided it's time to forbid having standards.
yesterday I decided to replay the entire season 1 and realize how the game sucks bad. Those boring side stories, boring unskippable animations, boring sex animations, boring writing, and something I didn't notice before: CPU and GPU stuttering - and the most boring shit, the MC only attached ugly bastards. The dudes from the gym didn't even notice her, only the fat ass Fred, that ugly girl from the massage parlor (the cute one doesn't give a shit to the MC, and the girl from the reception hates the guts of the MC for no good reason), and the coffee shop old bastard. I wouldn't say I like to shove bad reviews, but I'm starting to think on doing it.
 
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xert13

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yesterday I decided to replay the entire season 1 and realize how the game sucks bad. Those boring side stories, boring unskippable animations, boring sex animations, boring writing, and something I didn't notice before: CPU and GPU stuttering - and the most boring shit, the MC only attached ugly bastards. The dudes from the gym didn't even notice her, only the fat ass Fred, that ugly girl from the massage parlor (the cute one doesn't give a shit to the MC, and the girl from the reception hates the guts of the MC for no good reason), and the coffee shop old bastard. I wouldn't say I like to shove bad reviews, but I'm starting to think on doing it.
Heartily, disagree. The animations weren’t boring, the set up was terrific for the climatic scene and the first season was one of the best corruption sequences I’ve played. Yes, there are logic inconsistencies- but it’s a freaking porn VN. You could make choices and they mattered. The reception girl hates the MC for a reason which is clearly spelled out (jealousy.)
 

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yesterday I decided to replay the entire season 1 and realize how the game sucks bad. Those boring side stories, boring unskippable animations, boring sex animations, boring writing, and something I didn't notice before: CPU and GPU stuttering - and the most boring shit, the MC only attached ugly bastards. The dudes from the gym didn't even notice her, only the fat ass Fred, that ugly girl from the massage parlor (the cute one doesn't give a shit to the MC, and the girl from the reception hates the guts of the MC for no good reason), and the coffee shop old bastard. I wouldn't say I like to shove bad reviews, but I'm starting to think on doing it.
thats the fantasy:) fiction
 
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