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Mad?, meh - did not think you comment was worth a reply - Since it just seems like standard whining imo.
1. The team have funding for 13.000$ each month, somebody must be liking what they are playing or seeing?​
2. Not unheard that "games" go over 4 year in a development cycle - Not that this justifies their current amount of content.​
Just saying its pretty common. Even for H-games, you will find many that are older then that. Heck the team I work for have 1 game and its over 5 years old, and not even done yet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯​
3. I'm maybe a rare breed, but I like the eye for details within this games mechanics. Perhaps there are others then me, out of their 2000+ patreons that also like them, who knows?​
So if, as you say, they got that much funding each month, why isn't there any important content added to the game? Answer is, because they get that much funding each month. Why try to hurry the game along when you can drag it out cause it pays the bills? Add a minigame here, add a single semi-scene there, just as an excuse so people don't whine too much. And I, among other people naturally have questions about the legitimacy of their patreons.
 
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So if, as you say, they got that much funding each month, why isn't there any important content added to the game? Answer is, because they get that much funding each month. Why try to hurry the game along when you can drag it out cause it pays the bills? Add a minigame here, add a single semi-scene there, just as an excuse so people don't whine too much. And I, among other people naturally have questions about the legitimacy of their patreons.
Well according to the dev. team, they are making up for it with the current patch which is delayed. *Cough cough* doubt it will have content in the amount equal to the time it have taken them to deliver, we will see soon enough I guess.

I saw where this was going, idk 4 months ago or something and actually stopped my support even if I have been there since before the beginning. So its not that I'm defending them at all... but I still really like their artwork, mechanics, the universe & idea for the game and hope deep down that in time it will be an awesome H game worth playing.
I can't talk for their current patreons, but it seems a lot really like the game.
 
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IW is pretty much alike some TES Skyrim nude mod with this amount of sex scenes. But Skyrim has the gameplay. IW has swimsuits.
 
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Вы там совсем охуевшие? Или думаете что Европейцы такие дауны, что будут вам бесконечно деньги заливать в обмен на пару картинок в год? Давайте, то, что было обещано, ущербы крабьи.
Лмао
 

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Well according to the dev. team, they are making up for it with the current patch which is delayed. *Cough cough* doubt it will have content in the amount equal to the time it have taken them to deliver, we will see soon enough I guess.

I saw where this was going, idk 4 months ago or something and actually stopped my support even if I have been there since before the beginning. So its not that I'm defending them at all... but I still really like their artwork, mechanics, the universe & idea for the game and hope deep down that in time it will be an awesome H game worth playing.
I can't talk for their current patreons, but it seems a lot really like the game.
The game content for 4 years of work its really shameful cause the artwork its very good but he is lazy and since the patreons didnt bother him to make progress on the game he took all the time he needed to make a shameful 2 minute content that had 30 minute grind and u would finish it and u would go like "where the fck is the content", the amount of money the dev took during this years he could have gotten a team sooner, after joe joined the money increased, but did anything really change? not really we still the same slow develop but somehow it has now one scene atleast but most likely u gonna say "that is it" cause most likely the scene is a masturbation and people waiting for years for some action.

The game has everything to be amazing, but the popularity of lazyness and how scammy the project was wont go away that easy, now really depends on the team if they want change that, if they are really focused on the project to make it shine and start listening to the feedback and not going threatning/insulting and acting like kids to the public/patreons/future patreons cause they Rage for no reason and the first interaction to a person that gives a critic on the game they start flaming/insult/etc you.
 
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Well according to the dev. team, they are making up for it with the current patch which is delayed. *Cough cough* doubt it will have content in the amount equal to the time it have taken them to deliver, we will see soon enough I guess.
There's a problem which leads to massive miscommunication with these devs. Usually when someone talking about "content" in a context of a porn-game it means porn-related stuff: art, scenes, whatever. But when Sadcrab devs are talking about content they could mean literally anything work in progress: new lines of text, non-porn art assets, mini-games, even fucking UI changes, anything.

Like I said, I'm really curious about upcoming update and I will run game from the start to see all the changes but something tells me that all significant porn-related content will be that one announced scene and that's it. Which would be a shame, obviously, for such a pretty big game at this point.

It should be a proper porn-parody game, swimming in porn: what was that all about forbidden toilet threesome? Player should've at least had a peak. Few possible naked portraits at best? Too little, they should fuck at evenings all the time or something. Casual sex with granny on a regular basis for thouse who wants it? Sure, why not? That sassy bitch who's blocking MC at his cabinet still hasn't been punished via magic os some shit (and I mean facefucked at least)? Are you kidding me?! Etc etc. And all that shouldn't get in the way of the main theme: corruption of the main girls (more like finding excuse to letting young horny students to corrupt spineless pathetic shmuck in order to get something from him IIRC but that's another story).

But no. Of course not. Instead they continue to add more and more stuff few people care about and dragging dev process as much as possible. That "Siserg's bottlenecking" talk doesn't seem actually plausible because judging by the previous updates he seems capable of providing scene per update no matter the deadline: 1 or 4 months. Who knows what he's doing once he's done with it in between.
 

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There's a problem which leads to massive miscommunication with these devs. Usually when someone talking about "content" in a context of a porn-game it means porn-related stuff: art, scenes, whatever. But when Sadcrab devs are talking about content they could mean literally anything work in progress: new lines of text, non-porn art assets, mini-games, even fucking UI changes, anything.

Like I said, I'm really curious about upcoming update and I will run game from the start to see all the changes but something tells me that all significant porn-related content will be that one announced scene and that's it. Which would be a shame, obviously, for such a pretty big game at this point.

It should be a proper porn-parody game, swimming in porn: what was that all about forbidden toilet threesome? Player should've at least had a peak. Few possible naked portraits at best? Too little, they should fuck at evenings all the time or something. Casual sex with granny on a regular basis for thouse who wants it? Sure, why not? That sassy bitch who's blocking MC at his cabinet still hasn't been punished via magic os some shit (and I mean facefucked at least)? Are you kidding me?! Etc etc. And all that shouldn't get in the way of the main theme: corruption of the main girls (more like finding excuse to letting young horny students to corrupt spineless pathetic shmuck in order to get something from him IIRC but that's another story).

But no. Of course not. Instead they continue to add more and more stuff few people care about and dragging dev process as much as possible. That "Siserg's bottlenecking" talk doesn't seem actually plausible because judging by the previous updates he seems capable of providing scene per update no matter the deadline: 1 or 4 months. Who knows what he's doing once he's done with it in between.
Yeah I completely agree with you on.. yeah all fronts.
My hope for this update is that they are fixing chapter 1 - act1-4 and fixing the teasing scenes(scenes with main girls in underwear and showing boobs and all this) to be more spread out so progression is slowly and properly increased so it makes sense.
If we are lucky they also add more of these scenes, don't think we have seen all girls fully nude yet?
And like you said, I also only think we will see that "one new scene" with Daphne in the new update :S
 
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Oh and then Joe started making veiled threats about adding internet a requirement so if you're not a patreon you can't play.
Just lmao
I do hope it won't come to that. Their decision, but I personally think that they are getting paid well via Patreon with the current setup and their numbers are rising nicely.

Dark Silver tried something similar with Big Brother / Glamour, and I am not sure if it really worked out for him and his team.

So: Joe, we love you, please don't do it..
 
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I do hope it won't come to that. Their decision, but I personally think that they are getting paid well via Patreon with the current setup and their numbers are rising nicely.

Dark Silver tried something similar with Big Brother / Glamour, and I am not sure if it really worked out for him and his team.

So: Joe, we love you, please don't do it..
It's renpy. There is nothing they can code that will keep us out (the language is wide open). Even if they change language, it'll get decompiled or reverse engineered quickly.

DRM is pointless for its intended purpose -- to me, it's just an invitation to have a little fun.
 

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After they added scene with Ginny I was thinking "Yes,something worth and from this time crabs will do everything nice."But a year has passed and what I see ? Not so much content and stupid gameplay which can piss off everyone.Who even cares about the plot , that bloody walls of text.Your bets in which year the game will finished? My is 2022.
 
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Guys, guys, guys I think I've got it!

It's a meta-level edge simulator, a social experiment to see how far you can edge a fanbase before they finally give up and move to find release somewhere else. A deep dive into the masochistic tendencies for people to just sit around waiting for relief from abusive creators who keep laying it on thick with hopes to be dashed just as quickly. If I'm right, this could be one of the most amazing social experiments ever crafted in the internet age.
 

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It's renpy. There is nothing they can code that will keep us out (the language is wide open). Even if they change language, it'll get decompiled or reverse engineered quickly.

DRM is pointless for its intended purpose -- to me, it's just an invitation to have a little fun.
Completely untrue, you can require an online connection at all times and validate people having an active patreon, you could then say make the connection the the server that does that use elliptical curve encryption based on certificates, which you could also hash even further within the game.

Would it be possible to crack? Yes. The question is the breadth of knowledge required to do it and the time required for packet captures and seeing what a good connection does vs a bad one, then emulating it locally.

This is pretty much the reason why online games are the future, all the herp derp, we can just crack it won't happen if the content is never in your hands.

Stadia etc, the pirating crowd will die a slow death.

If you think I am joking, who hear has CD's and MP3's still? All things will move to the cloud, it's entirely inevitable.

(also, I'm not personally for DRM, but it's the same concept, it's an invitation to have a little fun)
 

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This is going to get interesting I tell ya.
Someone will figure out how to connect to the servers get the content, rip it, and distribute it locally probably. It will quickly move in the territory of risks associated with pirating and distributing movies, with groups of people in other countries doing the dirty work.

It will only get weird if they start using custom silicone and OS's on the back end that make it impossible to run the games on locally.
 

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pirating crowd will never die.
If you give costumers a good service for a "good price" people will pay for it.
with spotify for $10 you can have tens of thousands of hours of music, thats why people does'nt hear to cds anymore.
with netfix for $15 you can watch thousands of movies, thats why people does'nt watch to dvds anymore.

if next moth every streaming platform start charging everyone $15000 a month , people will start downloading movies.

if games start to cost $2000 each , they will crack it.

The more people believe that the price is unfair, the greater the possibility that they are trying to crack it.
 

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Someone will figure out how to connect to the servers get the content, rip it, and distribute it locally probably. It will quickly move in the territory of risks associated with pirating and distributing movies, with groups of people in other countries doing the dirty work.

It will only get weird if they start using custom silicone and OS's on the back end that make it impossible to run the games on locally.
Simmer down pal, I'm just here to watch.


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