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Santiago knew Emily and his kid ended up with Andres, who is someone he knew(and they had a mutual dislike, probably fought over something/someone before Emily) from college, it's a stretch to think he never knew his last name...
Then again he talked for an hour to a latino 18 year old boy, that looks a lot like him, and knows/"works" for Emily and he didn't say a word, i'd say it's consistent(ly dumb).

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Everyone in this town hit their head as children...

On John-Erynn-Melissa:
That would be an easy way to figure out that Erynn is from Melissa... and i can see him asking her that sometime in the future...
But he's still unaware that "THE MOST GLORIOUS DAY OF HIS LIFE" resulted in a pregnancy.
I have a guess about Andres actually, we know there was someone who was going to date with Andres but Santi reached to her before Andres which was the reason of their badblood. So either Gabi or more likely Ximena was that person. I am leaning towards Ximena because if she is Val's mother which is highly likely, then she is older than Gabi and at the same age group with Santi, Emily, Melissa, Andres etc. :unsure:
 
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I have a guess about Andres actually, we know there was someone who was going to date with Andres but Santi reached to her before Andres which was the reason of their badblood. So either Gabi or more likely Ximena was that person. I am leaning towards Ximena because if she is Val's mother which is highly likely, then she is older than Gabi and at the same age group with Santi, Emily, Melissa, Andres etc. :unsure:
It couldn't have been Gabi, at the time Andres and Santiago were fighting over Emily she was 8 or 9.
Ximena can be the one Santi jumped the line with.

Should we start the polls? Who is Val's father Santiago or Andres? lol.
 
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But didn't Santi cuck Andres with Emily?
I believe it's suppoused to go:
Santi had a thing with Emily.
Andres wanted another chick, Santi beat him to it.
Andres starts dating Emily in retaliation.
Emily was already preggo from Santi...
Andres stays with Emily pregnant from his rival(genious).

Besides this point it's speculation... wether Santi banged Emily while she was married to Andres or not.

It's actually tiring writing this shit lol.
 
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I believe it's suppoused to go.
Santi had a thing with Emily.
Andres wanted another chick, Santi beat him to it.
Andres starts dating Emily in retaliation.
Emily was already preggo from Santi...
Andres stays with Emily pregnant from his rival(genious).

It's actually tiring writing this shit lol.
The way I remember it originally, could be wrong and bein old my memory fails me a lot, but Andres was datin Emily first and Santi ended up fuckin Emily. Andres and her hadn't done the horizontal mambo yet. So, she knew it was Santi's baby.
 
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It couldn't have been Gabi, at the time Andres and Santiago were fighting over Emily she was 8 or 9, Ximena can be the one Santi jumped the line with.

Should we start the polls? Who is Val's father Santiago or Andres? lol.
Can't be Andres, he never had the chance he caught Santi and the girl while they were kissing on their date date. That was the reason he pursued Emily at the first place.

But didn't Santi cuck Andres with Emily?
Not as we aware of.
Brief Summary,
Santi and Emily were on and off relationship since high school, Santi and Emily broke up, Santi most likely fucked Andres' date though Andres only see them kissing, Andres pursued Emily to take revenge on Santi, then pregnancy shit happened (as Emily said it was before she started dating with Andres but Emily might have cheat on Andres), Emily and Andres broke up, Emily tried to go back to Santi, Santi ran away, Andres and Emily became a couple (dude even apologised), 12 or 13 years later Emily ran into Santi and started to meet with him(most likely they shagged at this time too, though it will be cheating not cucking), Andres divorced Emily.
 

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Can't be Andres, he never had the chance he caught Santi and the girl while they were kissing on their date date. That was the reason he pursued Emily at the first place.


Not as we aware of.
Brief Summary,
Santi and Emily were on and off relationship since high school, Santi and Emily broke up, Santi most likely fucked Andres' date though Andres only see them kissing, Andres pursued Emily to take revenge on Santi, then pregnancy shit happened (as Emily said it was before she started dating with Andres but Emily might have cheat on Andres), Emily and Andres broke up, Emily tried to go back to Santi, Santi ran away, Andres and Emily became a couple (dude even apologised), 12 or 13 years later Emily ran into Santi and started to meet with him(most likely they shagged at this time too, though it will be cheating not cucking), Andres divorced Emily.
I remember it differently. I am resrtin and haven't gotten back to that point yet. So, either my memory is fucked again, or it was all rewritten like most of the previous stuff I've encountered on this restart.
 

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I remember it differently. I am resrtin and haven't gotten back to that point yet. So, either my memory is fucked again, or it was all rewritten like most of the previous stuff I've encountered on this restart.
It's complex, the whole picture is painted across multiple scenes, but i'm sure i have this down... so does Defenestrator.for.traitor

Emily had a thing with Santi, but they were on/off.
Andres was scoping for a different girl, and Santi, not one to be tied down, got Andres target before him.
Andres goes after Emily in retaliation.
It's revealed that Emily is pregnant, Santi runs for the hills, Andres is pissed off innitially but ultimately stays with Emily.

From the on it's speculation, Andres believes she cheated on her with Santiago while the MC was a teen, Emily denies...

Can't be Andres, he never had the chance he caught Santi and the girl while they were kissing on their date date. That was the reason he pursued Emily at the first place.
Yeah, good point.
 
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I remember it differently. I am resrtin and haven't gotten back to that point yet. So, either my memory is fucked again, or it was all rewritten like most of the previous stuff I've encountered on this restart.
I am kinda good at this game, so I am fairly sure about this. If you wanna see it yourself. Mel talks about pregnancy part after Erynn kicked MC out, Emily talks about reunion 6 years ago after MC forgave her and then Emily explained rest of it at the restaurant, after MC broke Andres' wedding.
 
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It's complex, the whole picture is painted across multiple scenes, but i'm sure i have this down... so does Defenestrator.for.traitor

Emily had a thing with Santi, but they were on/off.
Andres was scoping for a different girl, and Santi, not one to be tied down, got Andres target before him.
Andres goes after Emily in retaliation.
It's revealed that Emily is pregnant, Santi runs for the hills, Andres is pissed off innitially but ultimately stays with Emily.

From the on it's speculation, Andres believes she cheated on her with Santiago while the MC was a teen, Emily denies...


Yeah, good point.
I believe you guys. But this is my first restart since this game first dropped and a lot of things are different than back then. So, before my computer died, that could be the reason I was havin issues with my variables. Because I took choices that were no longer in the game.
 

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I believe you guys. But this is my first restart since this game first dropped and a lot of things are different than back then. So, before my computer died, that could be the reason I was havin issues with my variables. Because I took choices that were no longer in the game.
No problem, it's complex, convoluted, it takes multiple scenes to understand the whole picture...
And as you say she often goes back and re-edits the thing...
 

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No problem, it's complex, convoluted, it takes multiple scenes to understand the whole picture...
And as you say she often goes back and re-edits the thing...
I already posted some screens of past and now present. The MC has changed, choices were removed and other details are either missin from the past or changed.
 
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No problem, it's complex, convoluted, it takes multiple scenes to understand the whole picture...
I think we have very good reflection in-game too. MC(Santi), Zach(Andres), Layla(Emily) and Valeria(X). Let me explain,
MC and Layla dating, MC fucked Layla and impregnated her. MC broke up with Layla for some other girl*. Zach was after Valeria but saw MC and Val flirting, then he decided to take revenge on MC so he went for Layla. After MC, Layla was desperate so she accepted Zach's advances. After Layla understand pregnancy. She broke up with Zach and tried to get back with MC using pregnancy. MC runs to Riverside. Zach apologised from Layla, Layla as a desperate single mom accepted Zach again. After they raised the kid, she was no longer needed Zach so she went for MC again. This time, Zach showed some spine and divorced Layla. Though still looked after MC's kid.
I think if you project their relationships you can understand better. Now, we are saying Valeria from this story can be Ximena. If so and if Ximena is Valeria's mother, then what was Valeria talking about at the last update is her mother and what happened in the past. :unsure: Maybe Nyx going for this, iirc MC does not have a choice not creampie Layla. :unsure::unsure::unsure:

* Btw, some other girl might be Adriana which will represented by Elena.
 
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At this point, it is undeniable that "telenovelas" are the fuel for inspiration..... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Anyway lot of good times, discusing the posiblilitys and theories......wait just like my better one and her mother in the Kitchen. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: I love that they put "private eye" face and make conclusions that "Agatha Christie" seems to be a little girl ....:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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I think we have very good reflection in-game too. MC(Santi), Zach(Andres), Layla(Emily) and Valeria(X). Let me explain,



I think if you project their relationships you can understand better. Now, we are saying Valeria from this story can be Ximena. If so and if Ximena is Valeria's mother, then what was Valeria talking about at the last update is her mother and what happened in the past. :unsure: Maybe Nyx going for this, iirc MC does not have a choice not creampie Layla. :unsure::unsure::unsure:
OMFG>..I'ma saving this post for a couple of years time :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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