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Working on day 3 of training camp for some days now. It's coming along great. Finally a different scenery than the track field and bedroom. There will be lots of water involved, so I tried the wet skin look on the characters. I don't know if I do something wrong, but half of the time, it doesn't work, the other half, I don't really like it, it looks off. I made the decision to not use it at all. Same with the hair. There are too many characters, and I don't have a wet look hairstyle for all the different hairstyles/lengths I'm using. Mostly it doesn't even look good either. So I'm only using it if it fits the character and looks ok.
It's so hot there that the water simply vapourises immediately. Yeah, let's go with that.
I have a nice idea about a certain scene, but I don't know if I can pull it off. It will be pretty difficult to create and get it right (look natural). I'll probably spend a day in the weekend trying and testing it and mostly hoping it will work out the way I see it.
There will be at least 2 new references to real-life people in this episode like the "Layla-dance-routine". Let's see who can figure them out.

I've also added a poll here because I was interested in what the majority would think about following. I'm not saying this will be in the game. Just something I'd like to know.

Would you be ok with Zach kissing a LI / LI kissing Zach during a certain game? For example, I dare you to kiss ...
I'm more curious on how the MC would react. :unsure:
 

Raziel_8

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You guys have never played this game? I have, and if you get to give a kiss to another person, even a man, it doesn't mean anything, it's just a game.
It's been a long time since i last played that game, but from my experience, back as i was a teenager, this game ended never on a good note, not once. It always ended with pissed off gf's/bf's and a lot of drama.

Yes it's just a game and just a kiss, which doesn't mean anything, but still most people get pissed if their gf/bf kisses someone else, doesn't matter if it's the man or the girl.
Still remember as i needed to hear my gf nagging (for months) that i enjoyed a kiss to much, or she wouldn't want me to meet my friend (girl) after that...
Worse when alcohol was involved (so pretty much every time) and it didn't ended with just a kiss...or as the gf of a friend fucked someone else while he was shitfaced...drama for months afterwards.
The last time i played this game, it ended with a dislocated shoulder and a broken nose for one of the guys, as he of got way to pushy and didn't understood as my gf said no (althought the other friends had fun cheering on the fight).

But that's just my experience with this funny game...now that i think about it, this game is a perfekt fit for this vn, more drama incoming :LOL:
 

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a kiss? lets have an orgy!

Also if some whiny chumps can not handle it give them a choice they can kiss zach or zach can kiss one of the girls!

make a point in the game where you can deny Zach kissing a girl and he can make out with 2 others! i mean who are you picking to be Zach`s girlfriend Steffi Valeria or Helena?
Definitely not Valeria xD
 

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It's been a long time since i last played that game, but from my experience, back as i was a teenager, this game ended never on a good note, not once. It always ended with pissed off gf's/bf's and a lot of drama.

Yes it's just a game and just a kiss, which doesn't mean anything, but still most people get pissed if their gf/bf kisses someone else, doesn't matter if it's the man or the girl.
Still remember as i needed to hear my gf nagging (for months) that i enjoyed a kiss to much, or she wouldn't want me to meet my friend (girl) after that...
Worse when alcohol was involved (so pretty much every time) and it didn't ended with just a kiss...or as the gf of a friend fucked someone else while he was shitfaced...drama for months afterwards.
The last time i played this game, it ended with a dislocated shoulder and a broken nose for one of the guys, as he of got way to pushy and didn't understood as my gf said no (althought the other friends had fun cheering on the fight).

But that's just my experience with this funny game...now that i think about it, this game is a perfekt fit for this vn, more drama incoming :LOL:
But u know… none of the girls are Mc gf yet. ;)
 
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Raziel_8

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But u know… none of the girls are Mc gf yet. ;)
True, but even the girls ingame don't care about the 'technical they are not', like Lyla get jealous very easily.
But i'm always for more drama, so i'm good :coffee:
I just don't like Zach, or see him as friend, i would ship him only with Tori.
 
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Dragon59

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I would think most fans of certain girls in the game wouldn't want to see that to be honest, unless they're into that whole thing. I sure ain't. Back in college in '83 after my GF broke up with me, I saw her new beau kiss her. I never had so much rage in my life.

Yeah it's a game, but the emotional connection is certainly there. Just how I am
Rage? Really? Rage at whom? Did you feel she belonged to you and someone had taken your possession? Were you angry at her for exercising her agency? Were you angry at yourself for doing (not not doing something) that caused her to break up with you? I could understand feeling sad because you'd lost a comfortable part of your life, a level of heartache morning what you two had, but rage? Foreign to me, I guess.

Then again, Rage is one of the classic stages of grief.

Seriously, if games like these bring up intense pain from 39-year-old events, perhaps you need to walk away and find out what's holding you back.
 

Dragon59

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It's been a long time since i last played that game, but from my experience, back as i was a teenager, this game ended never on a good note, not once. It always ended with pissed off gf's/bf's and a lot of drama.

Yes it's just a game and just a kiss, which doesn't mean anything, but still most people get pissed if their gf/bf kisses someone else, doesn't matter if it's the man or the girl.
Still remember as i needed to hear my gf nagging (for months) that i enjoyed a kiss to much, or she wouldn't want me to meet my friend (girl) after that...
Worse when alcohol was involved (so pretty much every time) and it didn't ended with just a kiss...or as the gf of a friend fucked someone else while he was shitfaced...drama for months afterwards.
The last time i played this game, it ended with a dislocated shoulder and a broken nose for one of the guys, as he of got way to pushy and didn't understood as my gf said no (althought the other friends had fun cheering on the fight).

But that's just my experience with this funny game...now that i think about it, this game is a perfekt fit for this vn, more drama incoming :LOL:
I think like many things, games and exercises like this bring up things that the people involved may have been hiding inside. If they feel jealous or insecure, it's not the game that caused it, it's the game that exposed what was already inside. For instance, it would definitely expose a double standard, where the guy thinks it's great to be able to kiss other girls, but if "his girl" should do the same with other guys, that's different.

As a story element, having such a game in the game helps to reveal things about the characters more quickly than it would otherwise happen.

Of course, I come from a polyamorous perspective, so I see feelings of jealousy as an indication that one needs to look at internal causes most of the time, or perhaps the relationship dynamic.

That said, the fact that he persisted despite her saying no was beyond terrible. He was OBVIOUSLY wrong for that particular game.
 

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Rage? Really? Rage at whom? Did you feel she belonged to you and someone had taken your possession? Were you angry at her for exercising her agency? Were you angry at yourself for doing (not not doing something) that caused her to break up with you? I could understand feeling sad because you'd lost a comfortable part of your life, a level of heartache morning what you two had, but rage? Foreign to me, I guess.

Then again, Rage is one of the classic stages of grief.

Seriously, if games like these bring up intense pain from 39-year-old events, perhaps you need to walk away and find out what's holding you back.
Holy shit dude. I think you are over analyzing what happened to this guy. Not to mention you know nothing about the situation. You come off as an pretentious asshole.
 

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I think like many things, games and exercises like this bring up things that the people involved may have been hiding inside. If they feel jealous or insecure, it's not the game that caused it, it's the game that exposed what was already inside. For instance, it would definitely expose a double standard, where the guy thinks it's great to be able to kiss other girls, but if "his girl" should do the same with other guys, that's different.

As a story element, having such a game in the game helps to reveal things about the characters more quickly than it would otherwise happen.

Of course, I come from a polyamorous perspective, so I see feelings of jealousy as an indication that one needs to look at internal causes most of the time, or perhaps the relationship dynamic.

That said, the fact that he persisted despite her saying no was beyond terrible. He was OBVIOUSLY wrong for that particular game.
Yes i fully agree with u.
The game is clearly not the cause of the problem, althought insecurities are pretty normal in that age imo.
Double standards are something i really don't like irl, admittingly i have not much problems with that in games.

Yes i can imagine that the view from a polyamorous background is different.
I wouldn't call myself a jealouls person, thought i would lie if i said im free of it.
I don't think jealoulsy is inherently bad, as it also shows that your partner is important to you, but of course it's the dose which makes the poison, too much clearly isn't healthy, but none at all, can also be interpretet as a lack of interest.

I have had both experiences, where showing a little bit of jealousy from time to time was well recieved and was interpreted, that even after years of a relationship, my interest in my partner hasn't lessened and vice versa.
As well where showing, even the smalest amounts of jealousy was immediately interpreted as a lack of trust.


While i have no problem with it, i think how well it will be recived, really depends on how Nyx will make the scene and also with which LI.
Layla certainly wouldn't be happy to do it and from what i can tell, would rather give Zach a nice slap, if he try's to kiss her, even if it just a game.
While i don't think Elena would have a problem of doing it, thought she would likely give some ''nice'' comments, to make fun of Zach.
Val, i have honestly no idea, we only know Zach would want to do it (is Val even a LI ? ).

Alternatively Nyx could always use the blonde friend of Layla, with her you would be on the safe side.
 

Dragon59

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Hey Dragon, completely missed the point. I was raging 29 years ago, as a kid, not now, when I'm 46. Missed the point. Nothing holding me back. And for your asinine response, you've just made the IGNORE list
I know you probably won't see this, but you did say that the emotional connection was still there, even while playing a game. That said to me that some of the rage was still there.
 

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It's so hot there that the water simply vapourises immediately. Yeah, let's go with that.
Well, then. That just means more LI diddling... uh, I mean, putting on sunscreen. Yep. :oops:

I've also added a poll here because I was interested in what the majority would think about following. I'm not saying this will be in the game. Just something I'd like to know.
Would you be ok with Zach kissing a LI / LI kissing Zach during a certain game? For example, I dare you to kiss ...
Yeah, its just a game. Thats fine.

That said, I hope you're ready for the return of the NTR brigade, Nyx.
 

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Working on day 3 of training camp for some days now. It's coming along great. Finally a different scenery than the track field and bedroom. There will be lots of water involved, so I tried the wet skin look on the characters. I don't know if I do something wrong, but half of the time, it doesn't work, the other half, I don't really like it, it looks off. I made the decision to not use it at all. Same with the hair. There are too many characters, and I don't have a wet look hairstyle for all the different hairstyles/lengths I'm using. Mostly it doesn't even look good either. So I'm only using it if it fits the character and looks ok.
It's so hot there that the water simply vapourises immediately. Yeah, let's go with that.
I have a nice idea about a certain scene, but I don't know if I can pull it off. It will be pretty difficult to create and get it right (look natural). I'll probably spend a day in the weekend trying and testing it and mostly hoping it will work out the way I see it.
There will be at least 2 new references to real-life people in this episode like the "Layla-dance-routine". Let's see who can figure them out.

I've also added a poll here because I was interested in what the majority would think about following. I'm not saying this will be in the game. Just something I'd like to know.

Would you be ok with Zach kissing a LI / LI kissing Zach during a certain game? For example, I dare you to kiss ...
Seeing as how we basically finesse all the LIs and he only gets to choose the ones we've ignored or our sloppy seconds, its not a big deal imo. Its probably the new chick anyways and we know squat about her. I couldn't care less if thats the case.
 
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Seeing as how we basically finesse all the LIs and he only gets to choose the ones we've ignored or our sloppy seconds, its not a big deal imo. Its probably the new chick anyways and we know squat about her. I couldn't care less if thats the case.
hey hey hey dude calm down! what if she does anal? there is a reason why the classical shape of the heart in cultural terms is the shape of a woman bending over ....

yes for the past 2000 years whenever we draw a heart we are actually drawing pornographic images... its the only way to bypass the judeo-christian (or should we say Abrahamic? we do not want to leave out the 3rd wheel on the sexual oppression Olympics... and people do say we gotta be inclusive!) oppressive stance on sex!

so when a girl promises her heart she is actually just promising her ass, Because hey, an ass is cheap compared to a real heart!

i guess all girls are scammers "here have my heart, and then they distract us with her ass... 150K is how much a young healthy heart is worth in the black market"! always remember that when people tell you you are worthless!

...wait what
you did not knew that? the classical shape of the heart is a woman`s behind when she bends over and you look at her from the back!

i just left you a womans behind bending over in your post!
 
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