Nurikabe

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... Cause the truth is, Alexis is Nyx's favorite pet, it's hilariously obvious, it was also mentioned in this thread, use the search button. This so-called 'love' story would've made sense if Erynn was the LI who got this much content, not her, coz she barely knew or spoke to the MC prior to their mile high club fling. I'm pretty sure most healthy, SERIOUS relationships don't start with the woman spreading her ass cheeks for a guy she barely knows... that shit is called a fling or a one-night stand, and the woman is either a hoe or too horny to think about commitment.
I would argue that Valeria is the pet! ;)
 
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Nurikabe

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So, I have a lot of favorite images from this VN. But this scene made me laugh and I kept a screenshot. You can only get the shot on a specific path but it is worth it!

Everyone has done it at least once!
Oops!.jpg
"Oops! I did it again!"

What is your favorite shot?
 
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So, I have a lot of favorite images from this VN. But this scene made me laugh and I kept a screenshot. You can only get the shot on a specific path but it is worth it!

Everyone has done it at least once!
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"Oops! I did it again!"

What is your favorite shot?
There are several favorite-moments.
Their not accessible on my drives anymore.
Thing is, removed them on this PC.

Val gone full-frontal-josy, is at the top obviously :LOL:
 
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Puma1978

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So your thesis is that Alexis' story is better because the dev... likes her more? Hmm. Well, since I cannot peer into their soul I cannot find any grounds to dispute that. I would prefer a more technical explanation as a critique but it will have to do. If you will permit me to redirect I would like to ponder why it is that Alexis is presented in such a way that people are inclined to forgive her obvious foibles and deficiencies of character. You know, other than just impugning the audience, which is rarely productive and a bad habit for any creator. My sense of it is that Alexis' story focuses on her positive attributes and gives her an opportunity to shine through by taking an active role in navigating her life and dealing with the consequences of taking the wrong course of action when faced with a difficult decision. Erynn does not suffer from a lack of content but a lack of meaningful content that gives her story any direction or momentum. She is a passive character that stuff just happens to. This is almost always a mistake and results in a weak character that people have difficulty relating to. Passive characters are not always unlikeable, but they always start with a narrative handicap. Well, this is my thesis anyway. But it doesn't have to be this way. Erynn is potentially a good character trapped in a bad story who suffers in comparison to other love interests because of unfortunate framing and inadequate narrative support.
I played the game now really on all possible paths and i also think that Nyx has really put a lot of effort into Alexis. Just look at small scenes which are animated and really well done not only the sex scenes.
We discussed before that may this could be also a trap by Nyx to make her intentionally interesting so that a lot of people fall for Alexis and later she turns her into a bad girl (as said..may she is really working with Ethan and is just distracting MC to keep him from Erynn...and Erynn also believes that Alexis seduced Ethan what she mentions in one dialog). So that would be a WTF effect for Alexis Fans...:)...the only thing which would be difficult to make believe is that Nyx also let us read Alexi's thoughts and how to turn thoughts into lies i dont know...:)
Why people are so fallen for Erynn i also cant understand because her story with MC is not really convincing yet. Maybe later we experience a more engaging story around her.
Maybe its because she is the only blond girl available...:)
 

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All the blame lies with the mc, not Erynn. He never gave her a chance to explain that they werent laughing at him, she tried to talk to him before he moved, but she had no luck. When the MC went to live with the father, she sent him letters, but he never read them.
Even the MC agrees to this, that should be the end of the discussion.
 

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We all live with the choices, mistakes or otherwise, that we do.
Personally, I love Eyrinn so so so much because she is there for MC, she shelters him, gives him a
reason to stick around, gives him purpose when his ma just dropped bombs on him.
Fact is, as one adult woman with a job, she is till with Ethan after such a long time,
pushing everyone away. She is childish giddy happy outta her mind with MC,
but all the adult stuff she does for/with/around Ethan, blackmail and abuse or not.

MC is a cute bunny wabbit she likes to fundle and hug and feel very good around,
but there his usefulness for her ends.

She would sleep right next to him and feel joy for her life, but would never trust him as a partner.
He was this good neighbor, harmless, warm, cuddly, making her tingle in all the right times,
but it was Ethan that walked her to school or took her on bike rides.

MC is just heartbroken, she just cannot get outta friend zone shenanigans with him.
Then there come a number of hurtful realisations as MC looks through her photos, realising
all these different ideas and interpretations about their adventures,
all of which she has been having for years and never bothered to cross refference
and reconcile with his own.

These kind of interactions are toxic for MC, they are sterile as he never can become anything but this stuffed toy Eyrin keeps in her grasp to fundle whenever she wants to fluff it out and feel wonderful,
but it is all one big illusion where MC just watches and weeps like a doomed little girl as Eyrinn
has her adult back and forth aquabbles with Ethan.

MC is now stronger, he is a man now, his ma tells him that he has grown so much she would not recognize him before they met. Even Eyrinn tells zak, who is now as tall as MC, is beyond her idea of what these little boys she was around when she was younger would turn out to be.

The time MC sees her photo she kept of her carrying him is paramount:
MC was this helpless little kid with little to no friends who lit up whenever she was around,
kind of like a groopie, happy to have her in his life, but she was right then around his birthday
started to be swarmed by ethan and his clique in the effort to snatch her beauty for himself.

MC was devastated, in his little mind, he was becoming more and more alone,
the neighbor girl whom he adorned had other interests, other boys, other adventures,
all of whom meant MC was seeing less and less of her.

MC is living that trauma livid and hurtful right now.
His problems keep beating him down, bullies keep doing that also,
then he cannot have any resolution about the ethan problem,
that has become a huge problem for Eyrinn also,
but they are not together conniving to get rid of him,
rather Eyrinn is keeping her distance, hurting alone, while MC is hurting alone also.

What a disfunctional relationship where both boy and girl are aching outta their minds
because of the same asshole, and neither is strong enough to band together to resist
the constant attack.

Well, they can stay in their own fantasy world believing Alexis is the perfect girl for the MC and Erynn is a piece of crap because she "lied" and "used" the MC while being "in a relationship" with Ethan all this time. Not like they're going to make Erynn disappear from the story because of that.
Believe me, that's the question every user on this forum asks themselves every time he posts something, so Canto posting nonsense is just him being himself, nothing weird about that.;)



Makes me wonder why Lexi dumps the MC if that were the case, but logic and rational thinking seem to fly over some ppl's heads too often to call it a coincidence.:rolleyes:



Sadly, that's RL fact, and the poor women can't escape cause they're too traumatized and too scared of what that sick lunatic would do if they did. In some cases, they choose to endure it for the sake of their children, and sadly, those same children witness a deranged, insane, poor excuse of a dad beating up their mom, and that's not something kids should see. I wish some ppl here would think before spitting their BS in this thread and ignore the damn character if they don't like it.



Blame their innocent age or the lack of life experience for that... talking about RL domestic violence, emotional abuse, blackmail and all that disturbing shit like it's just some harmless porn movie roleplay is next level stupidity and ignorance, ffs.



The funny thing is, they could end this debate simple and real quick by replaying the game and focusing only on Erynn to see who's right and who's wrong in this debate, but, for fuck knows what reason other than trolling, they don't and won't stop talking nonsense. It's like arguing with kids about how life works lol.



That's better.;) Don't get me wrong, I also like her path and her character, but it's that lil betrayal that's not easy to forgive. Erynn said it herself she wouldn't have minded if she and the MC started dating, but the least Alexis could do is tell her she likes him too instead of going behind her back like that.



Cause the truth is, Alexis is Nyx's favorite pet, it's hilariously obvious, it was also mentioned in this thread, use the search button. This so-called 'love' story would've made sense if Erynn was the LI who got this much content, not her, coz she barely knew or spoke to the MC prior to their mile high club fling. I'm pretty sure most healthy, SERIOUS relationships don't start with the woman spreading her ass cheeks for a guy she barely knows... that shit is called a fling or a one-night stand, and the woman is either a hoe or too horny to think about commitment.

We forgive Alexis so easily for betraying her best friend for a pouty princess after a half-assed apology, but we stone Erynn to death for a simple misunderstanding she tried many times to clear up. Nice.:oops:
I played the game now really on all possible paths and i also think that Nyx has really put a lot of effort into Alexis. Just look at small scenes which are animated and really well done not only the sex scenes.
We discussed before that may this could be also a trap by Nyx to make her intentionally interesting so that a lot of people fall for Alexis and later she turns her into a bad girl (as said..may she is really working with Ethan and is just distracting MC to keep him from Erynn...and Erynn also believes that Alexis seduced Ethan what she mentions in one dialog). So that would be a WTF effect for Alexis Fans...:)...the only thing which would be difficult to make believe is that Nyx also let us read Alexi's thoughts and how to turn thoughts into lies i dont know...:)
Why people are so fallen for Erynn i also cant understand because her story with MC is not really convincing yet. Maybe later we experience a more engaging story around her.
Maybe its because she is the only blond girl available...:)
Even the MC agrees to this, that should be the end of the discussion.
MC is under a montain of pain he has to suffer for his ma and Eyrinn,
but all good things start when letting go, so the women hav ta let it go too,
ma has to stop being available and drunk to melissa, Eyrinn should come clean about alex and ethan.

As long as MC is the only one shouldering the hurt and the pain and all the girls do is
remind him of their past that they have wild perspectives about, MC is far from closing his wounds.
 

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I played the game now really on all possible paths and i also think that Nyx has really put a lot of effort into Alexis. Just look at small scenes which are animated and really well done not only the sex scenes.
We discussed before that may this could be also a trap by Nyx to make her intentionally interesting so that a lot of people fall for Alexis and later she turns her into a bad girl (as said..may she is really working with Ethan and is just distracting MC to keep him from Erynn...and Erynn also believes that Alexis seduced Ethan what she mentions in one dialog). So that would be a WTF effect for Alexis Fans...:)...the only thing which would be difficult to make believe is that Nyx also let us read Alexi's thoughts and how to turn thoughts into lies i dont know...:)
Why people are so fallen for Erynn i also cant understand because her story with MC is not really convincing yet. Maybe later we experience a more engaging story around her.
Maybe its because she is the only blond girl available...:)
I try my best not to judge a story based on speculation of what could happen. It is interesting to take note of these opportunities. Checkov's gun eventually does have to go off, after all. Alexis doing a face/heel turn would be interesting but only if it fit in with an understandable and relatable motivation. Seeing how tormented she was struggling over a small secret she was keeping from MC and Erynn it wouldn't gibe with the audience that she was keeping a much bigger and completely malevolent one. It wouldn't shock an audience I think. I would imagine they would simply reject it, and by transitive property reject the entire story and the entire game. This is what happened to the last season of Game of Thrones. Doing a twist for the sake of the twist instead of for the sake of the story will leave the audience not only dissatisfied but also incredulous.

It seems that some of the fans on the forum want some kind of victory against other fans for the sake of their character. Well, that is a sign of engagement. It is kind of a professional wrestling trick to push a character at another character's expense by having that character turn heel to help the face get over. As one might gather, that is not sophisticated fiction. If people are to accept Erynn it is wise to do so by strengthening her story by giving her character opportunities that have previously been denied. Worst case scenario? It could backfire and people could love Alexis more as a bad girl. Because she would still be the more active character, probably even more active because she is going after what she wants no matter who gets in the way. I call that the Stone Cold effect. Erynn wouldn't benefit in the end because she will still be receiving the cheap heat and she will remain a jobber because the audience isn't buying the work.

As to the hair color thing... gentlemen may prefer blondes but I prefer redheads. Nuff said.
 
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Progress Update - Episode 10

Another quick update since I can't talk about what I'm working on specifically because of spoilers.

I'm working on a scene at the moment which has 5 different possibilities with different characters. You'll only get to see one of those though because of choices you made earlier in-game. I find it quite boring to work on since it's somewhat the same 5 times over. Of course, it has different images and I change to script depending on which character is present, but it still feels like I'm doing the same thing over and over again. I've finished 2 of those scenes already, 1 is a very short one and you can probably figure out what kind of route that is. So basically 2 to go. I'll be happy when this is over. All those choices really start to bite my ass. I guess it's time to send some girls packing very soon.

I'm playing around with different light colours and camera settings, especially focus related. It could be that some images are inconsistent because of all the switching, but I try to keep the same settings during a scene and switch when working on another. I can probably fix some stuff post-rendering if it's really obvious.
 

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I only just finished Intertwined and I'm still pretty new to AVNs in general. I couldn't help but notice the difference in tone in this status update compared to someone like DPC. Gives off a kinda 'quick and dirty' vibe, which is not necessarily a bad thing. This is her first AVN, right. Impressive work, anyway!

All those choices really start to bite my ass. I guess it's time to send some girls packing very soon.
Sounds good actually? This can mean some serious progress with other girls. Since Layla, Elena and Alexis are my favs, I'm not too worried. :cool:
 

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started from scratch and did both layla and alexis paths (cara on both and gabi on alexis and erynn/elena/valerie on both) and oddly on alexis path didn't breakup with layla (at least don't think so) and still on end when erynn is behind dumpster alexis is with mc so they didn't come to knock on mc's door shortly after cara arrived and tell mc to goto hell.
 

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Progress Update - Episode 10

Another quick update since I can't talk about what I'm working on specifically because of spoilers.

I'm working on a scene at the moment which has 5 different possibilities with different characters. You'll only get to see one of those though because of choices you made earlier in-game. I find it quite boring to work on since it's somewhat the same 5 times over. Of course, it has different images and I change to script depending on which character is present, but it still feels like I'm doing the same thing over and over again. I've finished 2 of those scenes already, 1 is a very short one and you can probably figure out what kind of route that is. So basically 2 to go. I'll be happy when this is over. All those choices really start to bite my ass. I guess it's time to send some girls packing very soon.

I'm playing around with different light colours and camera settings, especially focus related. It could be that some images are inconsistent because of all the switching, but I try to keep the same settings during a scene and switch when working on another. I can probably fix some stuff post-rendering if it's really obvious.
Can you upload spoiler preview picture before this patreon update?
 
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znar25

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u are liar, you set your Sig by Eryn already :ROFLMAO:
Ha...ha....yeah....she is cool and all, and I haven't played through the full game, but the writing for the Nikki character, I just don't see MC and her ending (a really great and well matched) relationship that would probably leave both feeling really bad. Nikki is awesome and not just because of her good looks. Life is too short and Nikkis are not that common.
 
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