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I agree with most of what you said. However, I like the fewer choices because it was easier to follow and/or guess what the effect of that choice was. You are right on about the Hotel Scene but not sure it speaks to Kelly's character depending on you choices at the beginning of the game.

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The choices you make at the beginning only affect the beginning. It seems to me that he didn't like how the bold/timid system was playing out, so he stopped doing anything with it.

The only choices that matter to the main story are:
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The choices you make at the beginning only affect the beginning. It seems to me that he didn't like how the bold/timid system was playing out, so he stopped doing anything with it.

The only choices that matter to the main story are:
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thx. Too bad because it would have been interesting to see what could have happened if he kept it.
 

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Page after page on this thread contain posts referring to Andrew as the "MC" in seemingly the same way one would identify an MC in other games. Maybe it's just me, but I like this game precisely because there is no MC, at least in the classic sense. It's a visual novel told from a third-person perspective. You're not playing as "the MC"... you're reading a novel and making choices that affect all three characters.

The first several choices, as noted in the posts just above on this page, are for Kelly or Christine (being bold or timid). Andrew gets one choice earlier on, in the clothing store, and it seems rather inconsequential. Three-quarters through the game, the only choices the player can make that affect how the story plays out are for how you want Christine to act in certain situations. Later, Andrew does have meaningful choices of whether to pursue the doctor or his assistant (or both?). Christine's choices (so far) have just as much or more impact on how the story plays out as Andrew's choices. And there are more scenes of Christine or Kelly interacting in their own worlds than there are of Andrew interacting with either of them (hehe until this last update, which was outstanding). As the "player" (reader) of this "game" (visual novel), you have agency with all three main characters to shape the plot. In other words, there are three MCs and you get to control and make meaningful choices for all three.

Anyway, I guess my point is, or my question is, why do people identify Andrew as the "MC"? Is it just habit? Do people open this Ren'Py novel and assume there's an MC like most games and automatically project onto Andrew? I'm not trying to criticize or be snarky. I'm just genuinely curious.

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I think the answer is less involved than your deep (but fascinating) analysis. There are two basic reasons Andrew is considered the MC:

1) He is male
2) He is the protagonist

1) It's not revealing any state secrets to say most of the players of these games (and using this board) are male. As the only "active" male in the game, it's natural for players to gravitate to Andrew

2) All actions revolve around Andrew. Christine considers adultery because of their struggling relationship. Kelly dumps her boyfriend because of her (weird) attraction for him. Even the admin and doctor relate their personal predicaments to Andrew.

In fiction, not all "leading characters" have to be actively creating the action to be the protagonist. Often times, events act upon the character, but he/she is still the lead. (As an aside, one of my favorite SF writers, Clifford Simak, uses this technique frequently).

So, that's it. He's male and he's the "center of attention", even when he does so little in actuality.
 
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For me it's simple. I got tired of trying to remember the name of the male protagonist or mixing them up with other games and not going to refer to the name if I gave it mine. So MC is a convenient way of not showing my bad memory.
 
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Ok stupid question. Is there any way to convert image gallery extracted with Unren for HTML to png or jpg? Browser viewing is for the birds.
 

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Ok stupid question. Is there any way to convert image gallery extracted with Unren for HTML to png or jpg? Browser viewing is for the birds.
Have you tried navigating to the folder that has the extracted images and double clicking them?
 

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I did indeed. They register as HTML and are set to be opened with Chrome browser. Windows photo viewer for example, can't read'em.
You shouldn't need to run UnRen, actually. There should be an images directory in the game directory with a bunch of .webp files in it.

That might be your problem - your system might not have a webp viewer besides Chrome. They're not html.
 
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Ok stupid question. Is there any way to convert image gallery extracted with Unren for HTML to png or jpg? Browser viewing is for the birds.
Download and install WebP codec, so you can view webp images in Windows Photo Viewer (Don't forget to change default program for webp to WPV).

 
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Download and install WebP codec, so you can view webp images in Windows Photo Viewer (Don't forget to change default program for webp to WPV).

Figured that out but now the default stayed as Chrome. Tried to change it in win 10 but haven't found how to do it yet. So right now I just right click and select Windows Photo Viewer to open is and can, and did, do a slide show of all the webp content. I think there is a setting in Win 10 to change default. Just have to remember how to do it.
EDIT:Found it and changed the default to WPV. Works great.
 

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Figured that out but now the default stayed as Chrome. Tried to change it in win 10 but haven't found how to do it yet. So right now I just right click and select windows Photo Viewer to open is and can, and did, do a slide show of all the webp content. I think there is a setting in Win 10 to change default. Just have to remember how to do it.
Right click a webp file, Open With..., bottom option.
 

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Right click a webp file, Open With..., bottom option.
Doesn't work that way in Win 10. You have to go to Settings and default app by file type. Then you scroll down to almost the bottom to find webp. Click on the app and change the default to WPV. The bottom option you refer to is not available when you right click and choose "Open With" in Win 10, at least it wasn't with my copy and latest update of Win 10. I know because I just did it using Win 10 settings.
Edit:Thx though and what you said is how I would have done it with Win 7 before I upgraded to Win 10.
 

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Doesn't work that way in Win 10. You have to go to Settings and default app by file type. Then you scroll down to almost the bottom to find webp. Click on the app and change the default to WPV. The bottom option you refer to is not available when you right click and choose "Open With" in Win 10, at least it wasn't with my copy and latest update of Win 10. I know because I just did it using Win 10 settings.
Edit:Thx though and what you said is how I would have done it with Win 7 before I upgraded to Win 10.
If you select the bottom option called Choose another app (translating, so it might not be accurate), you can tick "Always open with this app", select an app and click ok. Works for me.
 

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If you select the bottom option called Choose another app (translating, so it might not be accurate), you can tick "Always open with this app", select an app and click ok. Works for me.
You are right about selecting another app and that's how I was doing it. But now those files open with WVP by default when I click on them. Just a matter of finding the right setting to change it with. Only takes a few secs to choose a different app so not a big deal either way.
 

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In Win 10 at the bottom left where you can type in a search just enter "default". The top option is Default...by file type. select that and scroll down until you find webp on the left. To the right click on the default app and change it to WVP and click on OK and it's now changed.
 

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One of the things that concerns me about the harem routes in these games, even as I eagerly play them, is not that an MC is cheating with multiple women, but that they are being cheated on. Jessica is an obvious example here. She is vulnerable, and has been obviously thinking (shall we say) kindly towards Andrew for some time. Now she is strongly considering an affair with him. How would she react, after consummating her desires, if she discovered that Andrew was also dipping his pecker into Kelly and/or any number of other honey pots.

At least, in Jessica's case, she claims to only want someone who can care for her, and for whom she can care. Andrew obviously is caring in this relationship, and love does not seem to be her object with him. However, I have my doubts on that score... We will see about that.

As I said, it bothers my conscience, but it never stops me from playing on... and hoping for a threesome! :)
 

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By the way, can Kelly be sued for practicing medicine without a license? She has obviously cured Andrew of his erectile dysfunction. For that matter, as one of the sexiest and most desirable females in any porn game, she could probably get a rise out of any living male... and even a few dead ones.
 
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Page after page on this thread contain posts referring to Andrew as the "MC" in seemingly the same way one would identify an MC in other games. Maybe it's just me, but I like this game precisely because there is no MC, at least in the classic sense. It's a visual novel told from a third-person perspective. You're not playing as "the MC"... you're reading a novel and making choices that affect all three characters.

The first several choices, as noted in the posts just above on this page, are for Kelly or Christine (being bold or timid). Andrew gets one choice earlier on, in the clothing store, and it seems rather inconsequential. Three-quarters through the game, the only choices the player can make that affect how the story plays out are for how you want Christine to act in certain situations. Later, Andrew does have meaningful choices of whether to pursue the doctor or his assistant (or both?). Christine's choices (so far) have just as much or more impact on how the story plays out as Andrew's choices. And there are more scenes of Christine or Kelly interacting in their own worlds than there are of Andrew interacting with either of them (hehe until this last update, which was outstanding). As the "player" (reader) of this "game" (visual novel), you have agency with all three main characters to shape the plot. In other words, there are three MCs and you get to control and make meaningful choices for all three.

Anyway, I guess my point is, or my question is, why do people identify Andrew as the "MC"? Is it just habit? Do people open this Ren'Py novel and assume there's an MC like most games and automatically project onto Andrew? I'm not trying to criticize or be snarky. I'm just genuinely curious.

As an example:
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I think the answer is less involved than your deep (but fascinating) analysis. There are two basic reasons Andrew is considered the MC:

1) He is male
2) He is the protagonist

1) It's not revealing any state secrets to say most of the players of these games (and using this board) are male. As the only "active" male in the game, it's natural for players to gravitate to Andrew

2) All actions revolve around Andrew. Christine considers adultery because of their struggling relationship. Kelly dumps her boyfriend because of her (weird) attraction for him. Even the admin and doctor relate their personal predicaments to Andrew.

In fiction, not all "leading characters" have to be actively creating the action to be the protagonist. Often times, events act upon the character, but he/she is still the lead. (As an aside, one of my favorite SF writers, Clifford Simak, uses this technique frequently).

So, that's it. He's male and he's the "center of attention", even when he does so little in actuality.
I guess for me the reason I say MC for Andrew is because he was the character that initiated the first scene. thats the only reason but i do see your point that he technically isnt the main character and that the game is us reading a story.
 
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