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So, I briefly touched on it a couple posts back but there are some really good questions here that I think it will help everyone if I expand on it a little bit. I'm not really going to answer them in order, please forgive me.

You're not going to be locked out of anything. I mentioned this a few times before where there are some girls who will only get 1 or 2 scenes (at least that's the plan for now) so if you turn them down then yeah you've sort of locked yourself out of content with them. Zoe isn't going to be a main LI so much as she is attached to another LI. You'll know which one if you fucked Zoe in the club before meeting with Ness. So, Zoe isn't going anywhere for now regardless of the choices you've made. There might be another scenario like the one in the MC's bedroom where the scene plays out differently, but I haven't written or rendered anything yet so no promises.

More specifically for Nat, she's not going anywhere either. I have kicked around the idea of letting the MC dump her, but I decided it would create way too much work for myself. You'll be able to skip a lot of her content if it's not something you're into but she'll still be around. I'm trying to come up with a 'good boyfriend' reward that will fit into the story as a sort of apology to all the players who skipped some of the earlier sexy content because Nat is best girl but I haven't figured that out yet.

Don't get too hung up on mc_c, mc_e, or any of the girl's _r stats. They mostly just change a little bit of the narration and they are very vaguely defined. The mc_c and mc_e are sort of just a way for me to get an idea of how you are playing the MC, and as far as content with the other girls go the _r isn't going to unlock or block anything for you. I know me saying this isn't going to stop people from worrying about these variables or even making cheat mods to max them out, but seriously, don't worry about them.

Speaking more broadly about my approach, the game is going to be pretty linear. There's not going to be a sudden shift to a free roam/sandbox mode. I do want your choices to matter though. Which means the experience will end up being different, beyond just an occasional line of narration, depending on your choices. I am also aware that players don't like 'missing' content so I want there to be plenty of opportunities for you to experience every scene. It's a hard needle to thread and I'll probably fuck it up but I'm going to give it the old college try.

Also, I know the sexy content so far has definitely favored players who were unfaithful to Nat. I'm sorry. I debated adding in some more sexy scenes with Nat but I was afraid the game would turn into the Nat show and I wanted to maintain the pacing, there's a pretty major development coming up that we need to get to. I'm not trying to be one of those devs who keeps promising all the things you want in 'just a couple more updates'...
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but, very soon you will be able to both be loyal to Nat and fuck any girl you want.
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Thanks for the answers. (y)

Interacting with Zoe makes me feel like I'm falling on my own sword. It also makes the MC late to the meeting with my girl Agnes.

I don't know if it's been asked before but what about the sims? If I choose Sara everytime, will I be skipping Nat and Mol content?
 

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Yeah, I know. I used to do some blender work making bodies for Dragon Age, Skyrim and Fallout. Actually, I think you are close. Big booty is fine but get to the width gradually. She now has such a narrow waist that it makes her hips look too square. Two ways to fix that. She can still be fit with a wider waistline and she can still have a wide ass with the hip bones a little less prominent. Jus' Sayin':cool:
You sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole. :LOL:

I suppose there are worse ways to spend an evening than playing with 3d butt models.

The good news is I made her waist/pelvis/hips less boxy. Still needs some tweaks and I might have to redo a few renders from the end of this last update to make sure her body stays consistent going forward, but I'm getting there.

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You sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole. :LOL:

I suppose there are worse ways to spend an evening than playing with 3d butt models.

The good news is I made her waist/pelvis/hips less boxy. Still needs some tweaks and I might have to redo a few renders from the end of this last update to make sure her body stays consistent going forward, but I'm getting there.

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Looking good. For some reason this version gives a kind of Tina Armstrong vibe to her look.
 
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You sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole. :LOL:

I suppose there are worse ways to spend an evening than playing with 3d butt models.

The good news is I made her waist/pelvis/hips less boxy. Still needs some tweaks and I might have to redo a few renders from the end of this last update to make sure her body stays consistent going forward, but I'm getting there.

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Really lookin' good. My 2 cents... Pump those abs just a bit. This girl worked hard for that figure. Lose the tan lines. This bitch ain't afraid to tan nude. hehehe Jus' Sayin':cool: Seriously, really nice work and a big improvement. That booty is too hot! JMHO
 

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No, and that actually is using the old MC model from 0.1!

So those renders, all of them from that post, were scenes I had more or less sketched out early on in development. Part of my work flow/process is I come up with a scene and build a rough draft of it in DAZ even if the scene isn't coming for a long time. This way I have sort of a waypoint that I need to steer the story towards visually. I made the mistake a couple times of steering towards something that I couldn't actually create because I didn't have the right assets, or the concept didn't work etc... So I make it a point to get a proof-of-concept done before I steer towards something I can't actually make.

So, the renders from that post will not end up in the game. I only shared them because I'm an asshole and I was trying to make a point to win an argument on the internet. But that one you chose is probably the one that will get almost exactly replicated at some point. I very much intend for that scene to happen still, the location and the outfits might change but otherwise...
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Do include that scene cause it looks hot AF
 

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You more or less nailed it. Sara is a little bit harder to define in one or two words and while I think I talked about it in a much older post I'll expand a little if you're unafraid of spoilers.
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The only girl who will see any significant transformation in the 'real world' will be Mol and she's already most of the way there. I'm playing with what will be her 'final form' right now but it's not going to be nearly as drastic as her simulation appearance. She'll probably lose a little more weight, get a tan, and maybe a titjob. Not huge (by porn game standards) but go just big enough to make it clear that she's had work done. Nat might end up gaining a little weight in the 'real world' but again it won't be as drastic as her simulation appearance.

There also might be some epilogue-style endings for some of the girls that see more extreme transformations for them and everyone else but that's pretty far down the line.

This is as good a time as ever to shamelessly plug my . I'd love to have some polls and stuff to let my supporters help decide on where I go with some of these things, but I'm going to need some supporters for that to work. :LOL:



Most likely not intentional. :( A couple of the models seem to be a little cross-eyed for some reason but I think the issue is mostly the way I pose the characters to look at certain things. The script I use might adjust the eyes a little too much for close-in objects and since the camera angle isn't always dead on looking at the character in question it can end up standing out too much. I'll try to go back and fix all the egregious stuff but that will take a backseat to working on new content, for now I'll just be more careful.
Man, I was waiting to see where this story was going and it's really hitting all the best possible expectations I could have had for it.
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Gotta say, this is hitting its stride early and doing so well. I was kind of hopeful even with the remade prologue kind of being a bad sign (it was well done, and better set expectations for what to expect out of the story, just noting that as a general point). I'm glad you're keeping this on SS from the jump; you're giving up a lot of potential revenue to keep true to your story and I appreciate that a ton. The more devs making quality product who do so, the better this space will be in the long run. Given that, I went ahead and made Sara, Mol, and the MC all have the same last name--didn't make sense that they were different from what I've seen so far given the platform you're on, unless this is preemptive for a release on other platforms or has some story significance further down the line. If so, please let me know.

I finally went ahead and made a SS account last weekend, and this weekend will be doing a pass on all the devs who I like on there, and this for sure is on the list.

Now after all that glazing, it's time for the constructive criticism. My personal pique with every title: the nipple/areola work. The textures are actually pretty well done, and the variety is decent, but the resolution seems a bit low, the surfaces a tad too smooth, and there could be some dimensionality to the protrusion.

Animations: not having animations is not necessarily bad; weak animations take away a lot more from the game than not having them at all, IMO. That said, if you're not going to add them, you have to make up for that lack with dynamic images, especially in the sex scenes, especially for creampies. You won't have the advantage of conveying the motion in a literal sense, so you need some fluidity (apart from the literal fluids) and then some impact to convey the change in pace and kinetic effect of the scenes. Another new offering that handles this extremely well is Quarantine Libido; even though it has some animation, where it doesn't, it uses blur, lighting, and other effects to convey dynamic movement extremely well. The nipple work on that is going to be quite good as well if you want to take a look there for some inspiration on that front.

You've done a great job with lighting and perspective IMO--it conveys the tone really effectively and deliberately draws attention where it is most salient. Most scene changes start with an open shot, framing the space where the action takes place and drawing closer to the characters and reframing the shots as it proceeds, without wasting renders on unimportant details like minute facial changes from line-to-line.

Now for some speculation!
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EDIT: Just read through the thread, and it seems like you're sticking to your guns in terms of where the story is going, but I'm already seeing some of the typical stuff like people being salty the MC isn't an "alpha" male and people wanting the story to change so you don't have to cheat on Nat early--please, for the love of all that is holy, keep going in whatever direction you were intending, this is going great IMO and it would suck if you made changes to crowd-please.

I'm a non-con enjoyer, but I don't go in all the romance threads asking for characters to be blackmailed/drugged/sleeper-creepered. If I did I'm pretty sure I'd end up on someone's shitlist though lol. This is easy for me to say as this checks most of my boxes already (well, except non-con as stated already...) but even if it didn't asking for story overhauls to fit your rando fetish is dumb.

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EDIT 2: Also please give me some Kelli content, goddamn need to see her in action. Also on the topic of transformations, I'm assuming at least some of the characters are gonna fill out a bit/get larger areola etc. when they're impregnated right? Obviously not every woman changes drastically from pregnancy but it would be a crime if Nat and hopefully some other characters don't.

EDIT 3: ALSO need to mention I'm team Claudette, glad she's getting some action, love some thick GILF content.
 
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Good update! It'll be interesting to see where things go from here. I really like the direction Sara's story is going, but if I'm being honest I was a little dissapointed with her transformation scene. Frankly, the enlarged clit looked really odd and not sexy at all. It looked stretched veiny fishing lure. I hope that's not the final model she's getting because you're not going to make many futa fans happy with that. You should give it a distinctive head, and basically just make it look like a little dick. That's what enlarged clits look like IRL.

Also, it seems like huge boobs and bimboification are going to be a theme here since all of the sim versions of the characters (and most of the other characters) have bigger boobs. Are these changes going to transform their real life models as well? I'm not a big fan of massive boobs, so I'm just hoping Nat and Sara are keeping their more regularly sized chests IRL. Those two look great currently.
 
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None of the paths will get closed off. There might be some characters that only get 1 or 2 scenes total so if you skip them you would basically close the path off, but for everyone else I intend to leave plenty of on-ramps in case you just weren't interested in the initial offering. There will probably be stuff like with the club girl where you might get a different scene if you've already been with the girl before but mostly I want to avoid punishing players for choosing different routes. The stuff with Nat kind of ties into this where I don't want to punish you for staying faithful, that's super commendable given the fact that this is a porn game, so I'll probably try to come up with some kind of extra stuff if play the MC as a good boyfriend.

You're not wrong about how I could've easily justified the MC having access to all three sims. Like I said it's mostly just a way to set the tone. For this part of the game I wanted to capture the feeling that the MC is sort of getting blindsided by everything that he's got himself involved in. It's not perfect but like I said, it won't be an issue pretty soon.

Regarding Mol, you've gotten me a little curious so I'd appreciate some feedback here. These are very raw and not final products (also ignore the stars and stripes, I'm working on a 4th of July thing so I just used that outfit) but here's where I'm currently at for her 'final form'.
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I highly appreciate your openess and your engagement here!

My opinion on Mol s appearsnce:

Please give her bigger tits!!!

Or maybe even the option for us to modify her to our liking. Huge lips and so fourth.

That would be the ultimate option imho while ofc a shitload of Work more for you =)

Thank you very much for your Ambition and best of success!
 

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EDIT: Just read through the thread, and it seems like you're sticking to your guns in terms of where the story is going, but I'm already seeing some of the typical stuff like people being salty the MC isn't an "alpha" male and people wanting the story to change so you don't have to cheat on Nat early--please, for the love of all that is holy, keep going in whatever direction you were intending, this is going great IMO and it would suck if you made changes to crowd-please.

I'm a non-con enjoyer, but I don't go in all the romance threads asking for characters to be blackmailed/drugged/sleeper-creepered. If I did I'm pretty sure I'd end up on someone's shitlist though lol. This is easy for me to say as this checks most of my boxes already (well, except non-con as stated already...) but even if it didn't asking for story overhauls to fit your rando fetish is dumb.
Overall this is one of the most insightful and likely helpful wall of text posts I've ever read. I'm sure the dev will benefit from your comments about the characters and story.

IMO you leaned out a bit too far on this edit, however. Normally, I would agree. I often get agitated by the sudden influx of fetish lobbying and posts that are ignorant attempts to get a dev to rewrite the story in moronic ways and become a plague on new updates too often. However, there is none of that here and if you had read a little more closely you might have noticed that the conversations and suggestions of the last several pages have been in direct response to the dev's invitation...

Please feel free to nit-pick all you like! We're kind of getting close to the point where I can't easily change stuff that's already in the game but it's still a possibility for now.

So, while I salute your well thought out and voluminous opinion I believe I will take exception to your suggestion that mine is no more than, "asking for story overhauls to fit your rando fetish".

Good day.
 
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Really lookin' good. My 2 cents... Pump those abs just a bit. This girl worked hard for that figure. Lose the tan lines. This bitch ain't afraid to tan nude. hehehe Jus' Sayin':cool: Seriously, really nice work and a big improvement. That booty is too hot! JMHO
I queued up some renders before bed last night. Don't take anything as final because I played around with a lot of different assets and some of them probably need a little more effort to make work (plastic ass looking popsicle).
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Looking good. For some reason this version gives a kind of Tina Armstrong vibe to her look.
I had to google that because it's been a really long time since I played DOA, but yeah, totally. I think this body shape helps preserve her thiccness while still getting across that bimbo vibe. Once I settle on something I'll probably have to go back a re-do a couple scenes at the end of this last update but I like the direction we're heading here.
 

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Man, I was waiting to see where this story was going and it's really hitting all the best possible expectations I could have had for it.
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Gotta say, this is hitting its stride early and doing so well. I was kind of hopeful even with the remade prologue kind of being a bad sign (it was well done, and better set expectations for what to expect out of the story, just noting that as a general point). I'm glad you're keeping this on SS from the jump; you're giving up a lot of potential revenue to keep true to your story and I appreciate that a ton. The more devs making quality product who do so, the better this space will be in the long run. Given that, I went ahead and made Sara, Mol, and the MC all have the same last name--didn't make sense that they were different from what I've seen so far given the platform you're on, unless this is preemptive for a release on other platforms or has some story significance further down the line. If so, please let me know.

I finally went ahead and made a SS account last weekend, and this weekend will be doing a pass on all the devs who I like on there, and this for sure is on the list.

Now after all that glazing, it's time for the constructive criticism. My personal pique with every title: the nipple/areola work. The textures are actually pretty well done, and the variety is decent, but the resolution seems a bit low, the surfaces a tad too smooth, and there could be some dimensionality to the protrusion.

Animations: not having animations is not necessarily bad; weak animations take away a lot more from the game than not having them at all, IMO. That said, if you're not going to add them, you have to make up for that lack with dynamic images, especially in the sex scenes, especially for creampies. You won't have the advantage of conveying the motion in a literal sense, so you need some fluidity (apart from the literal fluids) and then some impact to convey the change in pace and kinetic effect of the scenes. Another new offering that handles this extremely well is Quarantine Libido; even though it has some animation, where it doesn't, it uses blur, lighting, and other effects to convey dynamic movement extremely well. The nipple work on that is going to be quite good as well if you want to take a look there for some inspiration on that front.

You've done a great job with lighting and perspective IMO--it conveys the tone really effectively and deliberately draws attention where it is most salient. Most scene changes start with an open shot, framing the space where the action takes place and drawing closer to the characters and reframing the shots as it proceeds, without wasting renders on unimportant details like minute facial changes from line-to-line.

Now for some speculation!
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EDIT: Just read through the thread, and it seems like you're sticking to your guns in terms of where the story is going, but I'm already seeing some of the typical stuff like people being salty the MC isn't an "alpha" male and people wanting the story to change so you don't have to cheat on Nat early--please, for the love of all that is holy, keep going in whatever direction you were intending, this is going great IMO and it would suck if you made changes to crowd-please.

I'm a non-con enjoyer, but I don't go in all the romance threads asking for characters to be blackmailed/drugged/sleeper-creepered. If I did I'm pretty sure I'd end up on someone's shitlist though lol. This is easy for me to say as this checks most of my boxes already (well, except non-con as stated already...) but even if it didn't asking for story overhauls to fit your rando fetish is dumb.

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EDIT 2: Also please give me some Kelli content, goddamn need to see her in action. Also on the topic of transformations, I'm assuming at least some of the characters are gonna fill out a bit/get larger areola etc. when they're impregnated right? Obviously not every woman changes drastically from pregnancy but it would be a crime if Nat and hopefully some other characters don't.

EDIT 3: ALSO need to mention I'm team Claudette, glad she's getting some action, love some thick GILF content.
Great feedback! It's always a good idea to butter someone up before hitting them with the negative criticisms. :LOL:

I'm teasing, because I agree with your critiques. I actually have something for the nipples that I only recently figured out how to actually use, it might not be perfect but it's a definite improvement. I used it on those Mol renders from my previous post but I'll try to do a close up shot sometime today to give everyone a better idea.

I actually made a couple short animations for the initial release but I wasn't happy with how they turned out. There's this weird thing involving color spaces with ren'py so when the scene switched from a still image to the video clip there was a noticeable shift in the color palette. It's not extreme, but it's hard to miss. I've been looking for a solution but haven't quite figured one out yet. I can always do a sort of slide show of still images in ren'py to solve the problem but that's a lot of lines of code for something that should only take a couple. I want to get it figured out soon though because as things become more depraved and kinky the game is going to focus a lot more on the sexy stuff and I know animations really improve that aspect.

I always consider mixing in a couple more facial expression changes since it isn't *that* much more work but I also feel that it doesn't add a ton. It would let me advertise each update as having "1,000" new renders but I'm trying not to get too hung up on shit like that. I have to play the game somewhat as a dev but I'm not hear to string anyone along.

Somewhat on that subject, I really appreciate your intention to support me on SS! I finally got 1 paid subscriber yesterday so I'm going to do some spicier versions of those Mol renders for my SS today or tomorrow and I'd love it if more than 1 person gets to see them. I'm going to talk more on this subject pretty soon but I'm trying to reply to everyone in a somewhat coherent fashion so it might end up being in another post or two.
 
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Overall this is one of the most insightful and likely helpful wall of text posts I've ever read. I'm sure the dev will benefit from your comments about the characters and story.

IMO you leaned out a bit too far on this edit, however. Normally, I would agree. I often get agitated by the sudden influx of fetish lobbying and posts that are ignorant attempts to get a dev to rewrite the story in moronic ways and become a plague on new updates too often. However, there is none of that here and if you had read a little more closely you might have noticed that the conversations and suggestions of the last several pages have been in direct response to the dev's invitation...




So, while I salute your well thought out and voluminous opinion I believe I will take exception to your suggestion that mine is no more than, "asking for story overhauls to fit your rando fetish".

Good day.
If you guys go back, especially towards the very beginning of this thread, I think you'll get a good idea of how open/closed I am to requests/criticisms/nitpicks. If everyone who plays the game is saying the same thing I probably need to make an adjustment. If enough people request a specific fetish/kink/character I'll try to add it. And in yoyomistro's defense, he might have been reading some of the very early conversations where I had to come out and refuse requests.

I mentioned playing the dev game in my last post and that sort of ties in here. I have only just started to get supporters on SubStar. I'd love to get a million supporters, but at the very least I hope I get enough that I can let them have input into this game's content. Obviously you guys have given a lot of great feedback, and I'm not going to start ignoring you once I start making those big fat AVN dev bucks, but it just makes a lot more sense to let people who are financially supporting the game have a larger say. They're kind enough to kick me some cash and deserve a reward but it also filters out some of the stuff from people who want the game to be something it is/will not be.

I highly appreciate your openess and your engagement here!

My opinion on Mol s appearsnce:

Please give her bigger tits!!!

Or maybe even the option for us to modify her to our liking. Huge lips and so fourth.

That would be the ultimate option imho while ofc a shitload of Work more for you =)

Thank you very much for your Ambition and best of success!
I still generally intend to keep Mol's 'real world' appearance less extreme than her sim appearance but something like this would be perfect for my hypothetical supporters to decide. :LOL:

I won't be doing alternate versions though, sorry. Some games will have characters rendered as a separate image and then drop it overtop of a background, and some games do this really well, but since I render everything together 99% of the time it would just be too much work to have 2-3 versions of every scene.
 
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