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mma456

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Smooth animation is required to make a game feel more realistic. I cannot get excited in non-animation games. For example, Treasure of Nadia and some games increase the level of excitement thanks to animation. If the developer is wasting time on this, I wouldn't complain about it. Of course, these are my thoughts. I respect everyone's taste and opinion.
I've seen this weird mentality in various people where they need animations to play a game rather than a good story and quality images, i wouldve understood that if the animations were actually of quality but the problem lies with daz which is very bad for animation in general so you are always bound to get some simple loop of animation that lasts a second or two which do not add anything to a sex scene or the whole game in general.
 

boriello

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I've seen this weird mentality in various people where they need animations to play a game rather than a good story and quality images, i wouldve understood that if the animations were actually of quality but the problem lies with daz which is very bad for animation in general so you are always bound to get some simple loop of animation that lasts a second or two which do not add anything to a sex scene or the whole game in general.
My native language is not English. I did Google translate. Maybe you got me wrong, I don't know. Does a person have a weird mindset when they disagree with you? I didn't say it shouldn't be a good story and quality images. I never play games without stories. I also played in non-animated games. I love the story and images of this game. When it was animated, I meant that I live the story more real. So is the developer of this game getting weird mindset because he adds animation to this game? I mean, if the story is good in a game and has nice animations, it will be a more realistic game. Sorry about my bad English. Maybe I didn't understand what you wrote. As I mentioned, my English is not good. My goal is not to offend anyone. I'm sorry if I'm misunderstood.
 

mma456

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My native language is not English. I did Google translate. Maybe you got me wrong, I don't know. Does a person have a weird mindset when they disagree with you? I didn't say it shouldn't be a good story and quality images. I never play games without stories. I also played in non-animated games. I love the story and images of this game. When it was animated, I meant that I live the story more real. So is the developer of this game getting weird mindset because he adds animation to this game? I mean, if the story is good in a game and has nice animations, it will be a more realistic game. Sorry about my bad English. Maybe I didn't understand what you wrote. As I mentioned, my English is not good. My goal is not to offend anyone. I'm sorry if I'm misunderstood.
I was talking about people who decide which game is good and worth a try based on if the game has animations or not, agreeing or disagreeing with me doesn't even matter. Like I said if animations weren't limited because of daz and we got something on the level of blender or sfm porn animations then it would actually improve the quality alot, but as it stands now the inconsequential loops which lead to numerous delays can't be compared to them. Also regarding realism the plot and renders are more important to make the setting believable than some 2-4 second animation loop.
 
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I was talking about people who decide which game is good and worth a try based on if the game has animations or not, agreeing or disagreeing with me doesn't even matter. Like I said if animations weren't limited because of daz and we got something on the level of blender or sfm porn animations then it would actually improve the quality alot, but as it stands now the inconsequential loops which lead to numerous delays can't be compared to them. Also regarding realism the plot and renders are more important to make the setting believable than some 2-4 second animation.
City of Broken Dreamers has some really good animations. And it makes a really awesome game even more awesome. But in generell, I agree with you. Animations are at max a nice addition and should never make or break a game.
 
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boriello

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I was talking about people who decide which game is good and worth a try based on if the game has animations or not, agreeing or disagreeing with me doesn't even matter. Like I said if animations weren't limited because of daz and we got something on the level of blender or sfm porn animations then it would actually improve the quality alot, but as it stands now the inconsequential loops which lead to numerous delays can't be compared to them. Also regarding realism the plot and renders are more important to make the setting believable than some 2-4 second animation loop.
I understand you better now. You are very right in your opinion. In my first comment, I wanted to tell you that I respect the developer if this game is delaying because of animations. Plot and rendars, of course, should be good. Nobody says no to this. All in all, this is an adult game and I think animations are a nice add-on after exciting or high-tension scenes. Poor quality and 2-4 seconds animations are of course a waste of time.
 
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Pogo123

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Hmm, I wouldn't mind...

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... but we already have a sister and a mother and no hope for some incest and and a ginger and enough women ...
But still, mmmhh ...
to be honest... I totally wouldn’t mind a hole game with April O’Neil as a main char in the quality of JOHN but with aliens and creatures hehe

I think April O’Neil is far too underused in porn mostly just saw bad porn stuff with that character and a few great looking teasing pics like the one you posted
 

mma456

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Hmm, I wouldn't mind...

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... but we already have a sister and a mother and no hope for some incest and and a ginger and enough women ...
But still, mmmhh ...
Hasn't stoper already done incest between Jessica and her sister? Although its just an artwork set on his patreon, he has done incest regardless.
StrapOn POV 15a.jpg
 
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gabich69

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Don't you think it would be better if the developers don't give a release date? it will avoid any wait and the surprise will only be better when the game is released.
In any case, I am looking forward to this game. Even if there is no release date, can we expect to see the next part before Christmas?
But like i said before, no problem is the game is coming in January.. The wait will obviously be long but worth it i guess !! (y)
Have a nice day fellas
 

umby

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Don't you think it would be better if the developers don't give a release date? it will avoid any wait and the surprise will only be better when the game is released.
In any case, I am looking forward to this game. Even if there is no release date, can we expect to see the next part before Christmas?
But like i said before, no problem is the game is coming in January.. The wait will obviously be long but worth it i guess !! (y)
Have a nice day fellas
in the case of stoper obviously it doesn't make sense to give release dates, just as it doesn't make much sense to publish development blogs in which you announce that the game is ready when there is still a month to release. If you are an artist like stoper and you waste a lot of time refining the various photos then you can't release any date you can just keep working.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Don't you think it would be better if the developers don't give a release date? it will avoid any wait and the surprise will only be better when the game is released.
In any case, I am looking forward to this game. Even if there is no release date, can we expect to see the next part before Christmas?
But like i said before, no problem is the game is coming in January.. The wait will obviously be long but worth it i guess !! (y)
Have a nice day fellas
I don't agree, release dates are important. If you miss the release data by a few days, no big deal, but they play an important role nonetheless. It doesn't matter if you're an artist or a businessman, release dates help guide and protect you while you work on a project. They give you a framework from which you can accurately dedicate your time and resources. Without release dates, projects can begin to meander, losing their urgency and focus. A lot of creators on Patreon suffer from this, "the game is done when it's done" is a cop-out in my opinion.
 

Ragnar

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I think the most important thing is to keep your patrons and fans on the loop. Streaming your work, posting on your site, and so on. Release dates are fine when you're sure the update will be ready, otherwise don't give any because people don't like when those aren't met.
The worse thing a dev can do is going radio silence.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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I think the most important thing is to keep your patrons and fans on the loop. Streaming your work, posting on your site, and so on. Release dates are fine when you're sure the update will be ready, otherwise don't give any because people don't like when those aren't met.
The worse thing a dev can do is going radio silence.
While I agree that communication is a top priority, I don't agree that release dates should be set when "you're sure the update is ready." That's working backwards and doesn't provide the structure that (I think) an artist needs.

When you're new at creating, I can understand open-ended release schedules. Until you know how long it takes to plan, render, animate, etc, how can you possibly gauge a release schedule? It could take a month? It could take 6 months? You have no way of knowing.

But as a creator improves and refines the process, they should be able to gauge how long their work will take. What can they accomplish in a month? What can they accomplish in 6 months? They should be able to look at their script and understand what it's going to require. Does this scene need 30 renders? 100 renders? Does the entire update need 300 renders?

One creator I follow structures his releases around what he can accomplish in 1 month. He knows that he can produce between 200 and 250 images in a month, give or take. So he balances that with the script by dedicating his efforts to the most important scenes, and saves effort where he can. It's this balance that makes it possible to have a firm release schedule. If he sees that the next scene/act of the story is going to be a big update, something like 400 to 600 images, he structures the script in a way that allows him to produce 200 images a month that lead to a natural break or cliffhanger. It then takes him 2 or 3 months to complete the scene, but because he structured the story to coincide with the release schedule, it all feels natural. When you are the lone creative force behind a game, you have all the power in the world to make sure that everything is balanced.

By no means do I think Stoper should be releasing updates monthly for Jessica O'Neil, that doesn't seem reasonable. But he should have a good idea of what he can accomplish in a month- and he has full creative control over the game. I think it makes total sense for a creator to set themselves a 3 month window (just an example) that they can then structure the story and images around. Maybe Stoper knows that in 3 months he can produce about 600 images and two animations (just examples that I'm pulling from the air). He can then compare that to the narrative in front of him. How far through the story will 600 images and two animations get him? Can he structure the script in a way that makes sense for this type of schedule?

Maybe all of this is the Type-A personality in me coming out. But I really do think that a release schedule helps the creator as much as it helps the fans. Any time that I'm given an open ended due date, it leads to endless tinkering and misguided priorities. As Stoper said earlier, in the last update he ended up taking a month or more on the dinner scene because he decided to make changes throughout the development process. He had originally thought it would take him a week. That's a huge red flag. Yes, the scene turned out great, but if that sort of delay is representative to his style, he's losing MONTHS per release. It's the age old saying, don't let perfection be the enemy of good. If you can get to "perfect" in a short amount of time, then fine, but at some point you run into the law of diminishing returns.
 
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