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baka

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the story is about a couple that have a relatively good relationship, it would not make sense if they never had sex.
their relationship need to change so it would make sense to avoid sex with him.

I prefer single FMC, this so I dont need to deal with any boyfriend. but so far I actually dont mind, he is a good dude.
 

Ignazzio

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Well, in erotic games forced sex scenes ale a simple mistake. I haven't checked this one for a year just because of the first scene that made me think it's worthless. I'm happy I tried it again but it still stands. It must have lost a lot of players cuz bf characters are tipically disliked. Not to say it's pretty damn easy to make these like 2-3 scenes avoidable which would be totally realistic. Game is placed in a specific timeline so just like other scenes are avoidable and make sense these would make as well. Stoper knows about it so it seems that's just his idea about building up characters which I find unreasonable but it's his game and other parts are quite a lot above average. It's quite unlikely he'd change it at this point (sadly imo).
 

Creeping Death

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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: You sound like you've been married longer than me.
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Yeah, worst are their birthdays! "Hey babe, happy birthday! Today I am your personal pre-warmed, talking dildo and you can be on top!" (and you have to smile but you just want your hot chocolate and say "go away, shhh, shhh") :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

No no, I'm single because females no matter their age (18+ of course), no matter their species (human of course) do find me repulsive and don't like me. So I am now, by definition, human waste. So sad.

(Don't make the mistake to swap reason and effect by my comments ...)
 

bauman

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A 3 to 4 month update cycle is not unusual, so not really sure what the problem is other than some people's impatience and self-entitlement.
I think people are just getting frustrated because stoper announced it will be ready by late November and we're in late December now. That's why 'when it's done' approach is better for devs that take their time. Also, last update was almost 5 months ago.
 

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A 3 to 4 month update cycle is not unusual, so not really sure what the problem is other than some people's impatience and self-entitlement.
you might as well be right, but that would mean other developers like stoper are working on dev teams, if only because most meet the two month deadline
 

GingerSweetGirl

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I think people are just getting frustrated because stoper announced it will be ready by late November and we're in late December now. That's why 'when it's done' approach is better for devs that take their time. Also, last update was almost 5 months ago.
No, the problem is that some devs just don't know how to budget their time and resources. Stoper has some real abilities, but project management does not seem to be one of them. The approach of "when it's done, it's done" is a recipe for delays and mission creep. This approach allows devs to say "well, maybe I can add this..." or "Let me improve that..." and all of a sudden late November comes and goes, December comes and goes, and the Dev tells us "when it's done, it's done."

I don't mean to imply that Stoper is a bad guy, or that he's conning his patrons, because those are massive overreactions over a silly porn game. But, if your development cycle pushes 5 months, you're doing something wrong. It doesn't matter if it's Being a DIK, A Wife and Mother, JOHN, or Dual Family (HAHA!), if you can't put out updates on a reliable schedule then you need better organization.
 

bauman

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No, the problem is that some devs just don't know how to budget their time and resources. Stoper has some real abilities, but project management does not seem to be one of them. The approach of "when it's done, it's done" is a recipe for delays and mission creep. This approach allows devs to say "well, maybe I can add this..." or "Let me improve that..." and all of a sudden late November comes and goes, December comes and goes, and the Dev tells us "when it's done, it's done."

I don't mean to imply that Stoper is a bad guy, or that he's conning his patrons, because those are massive overreactions over a silly porn game. But, if your development cycle pushes 5 months, you're doing something wrong. It doesn't matter if it's Being a DIK, A Wife and Mother, JOHN, or Dual Family (HAHA!), if you can't put out updates on a reliable schedule then you need better organization.
I get what you're saying, but you budget your time and resources when you want to start a successful business venture. Many developers have this as a side gig, and the patreon support is a nice bonus. The money is not their main motivation. stoper was very open that he works at the speed he does, and nothing will change that. He also mentioned he needs his side projects to keep him focused. As for the scammers - when you want to be dishonest, you'll always fuck over your supporters no matter what.
 
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No, the problem is that some devs just don't know how to budget their time and resources. Stoper has some real abilities, but project management does not seem to be one of them. The approach of "when it's done, it's done" is a recipe for delays and mission creep. This approach allows devs to say "well, maybe I can add this..." or "Let me improve that..." and all of a sudden late November comes and goes, December comes and goes, and the Dev tells us "when it's done, it's done."

I don't mean to imply that Stoper is a bad guy, or that he's conning his patrons, because those are massive overreactions over a silly porn game. But, if your development cycle pushes 5 months, you're doing something wrong. It doesn't matter if it's Being a DIK, A Wife and Mother, JOHN, or Dual Family (HAHA!), if you can't put out updates on a reliable schedule then you need better organization.
You do realise that outside Mr.Dots and NLT and probably Braindrop,all others don't have a real shedule.
 

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Yeah, worst are their birthdays! "Hey babe, happy birthday! Today I am your personal pre-warmed, talking dildo and you can be on top!" (and you have to smile but you just want your hot chocolate and say "go away, shhh, shhh") :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

No no, I'm single because females no matter their age (18+ of course), no matter their species (human of course) do find me repulsive and don't like me. So I am now, by definition, human waste. So sad.

(Don't make the mistake to swap reason and effect by my comments ...)
:LOL: I think we have a similar sense of humour, your second paragraph I don't believe for a moment, I believe everybody has a match somewhere in the world, but I guess that's a discussion for an entirely different site.
So before we go entirely of topic (I think I may have done already) I will wish you and yours seasons greetings and good health for the coming year.
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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I get what you're saying, but you budget your time and resources when you want to start a successful business venture. Many developers have this as a side gig, and the patreon support is a nice bonus. The money is not their main motivation. stoper was very open that he works at the speed he does, and nothing will change that. He also mentioned he needs his side projects to keep him focused. As for the scammers - when you want to be dishonest, you'll always fuck over your supporters no matter what.
I'm glad Stoper has been upfront, but deadlines still serve a purpose. I'm not suggesting that he needs a drop-dead date or anything that severe, but setting deadlines and sticking to them is important no matter if it's a hobby or a profession.

I would always encourage a dev to aim for a 2 to 3 month window. Learning to scale your ambitions to fit that window is important and can save everyone unneeded stress. Earlier in this thread Stoper himself mentioned that during the last update went down the rabbit hole during the dinner scene. As he said, when he initially started to design and render the restaurant scene he anticipated it would take him a day or two. But then he started to think that it would be fun to have Jessica go under table and give her bf a blowjob. This required him to do a lot of extra work to make her fit under the table. When it was all done, he had spent "weeks" on the scene.

To me this is a major problem. While the scene ended up being great, weeks were lost on just this one scene, that's a disproportionate amount of time to spend on a scene like that.

If he were to ask me, I would encourage him to rework his development cycle. I would scale down the scope of the releases to something that he can do in 3 month. He can keep the same level of quality, but the trade off would be shorter updates in exchange for more updates.

You do realise that outside Mr.Dots and NLT and probably Braindrop,all others don't have a real shedule.
I do and it drives me crazy. I'm not trying to say that everyone needs to be on a monthly release schedule, or that there can't be wiggle room, but I look around at this cottage industry and think that there are a lot of great developers that need help managing their time and resources.
 

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I do and it drives me crazy. I'm not trying to say that everyone needs to be on a monthly release schedule, or that there can't be wiggle room, but I look around at this cottage industry and think that there are a lot of great developers that need help managing their time and resources.
I doubt it will happen.Didn't happen in last 6 years,so I don't see it coming anytime soon.Even way bigger teams on Kickstarter constantly fail to deliver on time.In some cases with 3-4 years delay.Here we are talking for 1 guy team in 90% or even more of the games here.
 
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