VN Ren'Py Abandoned Juno's Task [Ch.5.1] [JoJozz]

[holaje12]

Just a heads up, for anyone wanting incest content via the patch: Everything up to chapter 5 is fine, but about 40% of the script for chapter 5 is nothing but retconning old relationships, which causes major plot holes with the patched content of the first 4 chapters. Kendall and Kate are suddenly no longer mother/daughter, having only met a few years prior. Natalya and Lia are no longer mother/daughter, with just a few short lines of dialogue from Nat stating that Lia is her friend's daughter(completely ridiculous). Val drops all mentions of any taboo nature to their relationship, while Vic switches to only being concerned about the age gap, and makes comment about MC being "Jack's son"(Dad's name was actually John, oops), rather than her own. Without a doubt, the next chapter will have a chunk of text explaining that Aaliyah and Neveah are just best friends coincidentally look identical, and they are just Callista's neighbors. Jade will suddenly turn out to an AI android that May created, and lost control over, instead of being mom/daughter.

Basically, jojozz seems to be going very far out of his way to make incest impossible in this game that was originally all about incest. Seems like a pretty nasty bait-and-switch. I really liked this game a lot, but regrettably will have to withdraw my backing at this point. I'll keep an eye on future releases, to see if jojozz eventually does the right thing. If he does, my financial support will resume at that time.

Yikes, did he not let his supporters know he was basically getting rid of it? Nasty surprise

 

[Uthuriel]

Just a heads up, for anyone wanting incest content via the patch: Everything up to chapter 5 is fine, but about 40% of the script for chapter 5 is nothing but retconning old relationships, which causes major plot holes with the patched content of the first 4 chapters. Kendall and Kate are suddenly no longer mother/daughter, having only met a few years prior. Natalya and Lia are no longer mother/daughter, with just a few short lines of dialogue from Nat stating that Lia is her friend's daughter(completely ridiculous). Val drops all mentions of any taboo nature to their relationship, while Vic switches to only being concerned about the age gap, and makes comment about MC being "Jack's son"(Dad's name was actually John, oops), rather than her own. Without a doubt, the next chapter will have a chunk of text explaining that Aaliyah and Neveah are just best friends coincidentally look identical, and they are just Callista's neighbors. Jade will suddenly turn out to an AI android that May created, and lost control over, instead of being mom/daughter.

Basically, jojozz seems to be going very far out of his way to make incest impossible in this game that was originally all about incest. Seems like a pretty nasty bait-and-switch. I really liked this game a lot, but regrettably will have to withdraw my backing at this point. I'll keep an eye on future releases, to see if jojozz eventually does the right thing. If he does, my financial support will resume at that time.

It's always funny to me when devs do shit like that...
It's completely stupid. Do they think they get more Patreons doing that?
I mean the patch was never really perfect to begin with but actively working against it so far in the game is just plain stupid.

 

[ash996]

What a disappointment! After a good incest game in which the goal was for several pairs of mothers and daughters to fall in love with the MC, we moved on to a lot of pairs of women who, due to the plot's magic, live together and have a relationship very similar to that of a mother and daughter.
Rewrite the entire plot or keep the oyakodon (sex with mother and daughter) going

 

[Lerd0]

 

[jojozz]

I wanted to ask a question if you dont mind, are there multiple endings planned? Good, bad, harem, non-harem, etc.. I am interested in just how much there will be a difference in the endings, thanks.

Yes:
pairing specific endings (Natalya/Lia, Callista/Neaveah&Aaliyah, etc...),
Veronica or Valerie specific ending
harem ending (not sure to make this the Juno ending or have her have a separate ending),
bad ending (non-ntr but bad nonetheless)
another "secret" ending (with Lilith choices and other choices selected)

 

[Uthuriel]

harem ending (not sure to make this the Juno ending or have her have a separate ending),

That's a tough one.
I think she deserves a good solo ending. The question is how to implement it in the story

Which ending would be the canon one?
I assume the harem one given the nature of the game.

Are you planning on letting all the girls know that MC is with all of them?
I'm not a huge fan of those separate mini-harem groups that don't know of each other.

 

[jojozz]

That's a tough one.
I think she deserves a good solo ending. The question is how to implement it in the story

Which ending would be the canon one?
I assume the harem one given the nature of the game.

Are you planning on letting all the girls know that MC is with all of them?
I'm not a huge fan of those separate mini-harem groups that don't know of each other.

I am still thinking through what to do for Juno. I have to see what fits best and what can differentiate her ending from the harem one (besides having sex with all the LIs). It might involve something with Freya but I will not go into too much details just yet

Harem is considered the best ending or I guess the canon one. MC completes his task completely.

They will all accept MC's "task" in one shape or the other. How easily or in what way they do, will differ between LIs

 

[DesiretheVoid]

Yes:
pairing specific endings (Natalya/Lia, Callista/Neaveah&Aaliyah, etc...),
Veronica or Valerie specific ending
harem ending (not sure to make this the Juno ending or have her have a separate ending),
bad ending (non-ntr but bad nonetheless)
another "secret" ending (with Lilith choices and other choices selected)

Oh thats impressive actually, it's more than i expected it would have. I am wondering how difficult it will be to access the "secret" ending
Good luck, will look forward to trying all the endings eventually.

 

[rahkshi01]

Yes:
pairing specific endings (Natalya/Lia, Callista/Neaveah&Aaliyah, etc...),
Veronica or Valerie specific ending
harem ending (not sure to make this the Juno ending or have her have a separate ending),
bad ending (non-ntr but bad nonetheless)
another "secret" ending (with Lilith choices and other choices selected)

Why not include Lilith in the harem ending as well where we turn her over to our side? You can't just give us someone that hot and not expect us to want to add them. Was hoping to go for all the girls even Aphrodite.

 

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[snow123789456]

I like the game thus far,

 

[NeroZee]

Why not include Lilith in the harem ending as well where we turn her over to our side? You can't just give us someone that hot and not expect us to want to add them. Was hoping to go for all the girls even Aphrodite.

I think Lilith wouldnt work for a harem, she is very openly evil first time we see her she kills a man by devouring his soul, the dev would need to do a lot of work to convert her to the good side and that would kinda ruin her IMO and i really like her and wouldn't want to see her ruined.
With the many different paths planned it would be cool to have one where everything goes bad for the MC, have one where Lilith plays into his naivety of trusting her too easily and greed/insecurity of being afraid he might lose all the other girls if he doesn't get her help, only for it to come crashing down on his head in the end when she fucks him over.

Most of the endings are on the good side, you can get almost every girl in one giant harem, it be cool to have at least one or two where the MC is just totally fucked because he made all the "wrong" choices. It adds to the overall replayability and also makes the choices matter. I dunno about you but i have played so many games on here where choices dont matter or make very little difference in the end and that just pisses me off, the complete illusion of choice. I am hoping this game is different and from the looks of it so far jojozz is doing a great job of it, if i follow the path with the good goddess i should have good things happen, if i pick an evil succubus demon then that means bad things will happen there are plenty of warnings to us as a player so there is no surprise there, simple as.

 

[OhGodNotAgain]

I think Lilith wouldnt work for a harem, she is very openly evil first time we see her she kills a man by devouring his soul, the dev would need to do a lot of work to convert her to the good side and that would kinda ruin her IMO and i really like her and wouldn't want to see her ruined.
With the many different paths planned it would be cool to have one where everything goes bad for the MC, have one where Lilith plays into his naivety of trusting her too easily and greed/insecurity of being afraid he might lose all the other girls if he doesn't get her help, only for it to come crashing down on his head in the end when she fucks him over.

Most of the endings are on the good side, you can get almost every girl in one giant harem, it be cool to have at least one or two where the MC is just totally fucked because he made all the "wrong" choices. It adds to the overall replayability and also makes the choices also matter. I dunno about you but i have played so many games on here where choices dont matter or make very little difference in the end and that just pisses me off, the complete illusion of choice. I am hoping this game is different and from the looks of it so far jojozz is doing a great job of it, if i follow the path with the good goddess i should have good things happen, if i pick an evil succubus demon then that means bad things will happen there are plenty of warnings to us as a player so there is no surprise there, simple as.

There is a bad ending planned.

 

[NeroZee]

There is a bad ending planned.

Oh yea i am aware, if i am not mistaken the good endings would be
-pairings
-Veronica or Valerie
-harem
and the bad endings would be
-bad ending(not sure if that involves siding with Lilith or just fucking up things with Juno)
-secret ending(picking every Lilith choice)

It's a good variety and makes the game a lot more interesting.

 

[Belgrath19]

So far I like the game, but it has some badly worded sentences (but so do some of my writings )

I think this game needs a 'graphic violence' tag after seeing the MC get hit over the head with a baseball bat.
Mind you, as an ex-firefighter I think the taser the MC is threatened with would have been safer to knock the MC out with.

Also why does it look like (to me) that his father's friend Veronica and her young resident, Valerie do a pregnancy in less than 3 days? It takes about 6-10 for a fertilized egg to implant in uterus, and sperm can live inside a reproductive tract and wait for an egg for up to five days.

And Sophia's parts are just lame. Like a Goddess couldn't see what she does.

 

[bandos90]

part two is dropping december? what date

 

[rahkshi01]

I think Lilith wouldnt work for a harem, she is very openly evil first time we see her she kills a man by devouring his soul, the dev would need to do a lot of work to convert her to the good side and that would kinda ruin her IMO and i really like her and wouldn't want to see her ruined.
With the many different paths planned it would be cool to have one where everything goes bad for the MC, have one where Lilith plays into his naivety of trusting her too easily and greed/insecurity of being afraid he might lose all the other girls if he doesn't get her help, only for it to come crashing down on his head in the end when she fucks him over.

Most of the endings are on the good side, you can get almost every girl in one giant harem, it be cool to have at least one or two where the MC is just totally fucked because he made all the "wrong" choices. It adds to the overall replayability and also makes the choices matter. I dunno about you but i have played so many games on here where choices dont matter or make very little difference in the end and that just pisses me off, the complete illusion of choice. I am hoping this game is different and from the looks of it so far jojozz is doing a great job of it, if i follow the path with the good goddess i should have good things happen, if i pick an evil succubus demon then that means bad things will happen there are plenty of warnings to us as a player so there is no surprise there, simple as.

I don't quite remember that first scene but was there a part during that scene with Lilith where she showed uncertainty? I kind of remember something like that but I can't remember what it was about. So if they expand on her story maybe it could work with a her in the harem, where yeah she still embodies the kind of allure and charm she already has and work out what happened to her. Something like that could diverge the paths further where you choose either working out her past and while not changing her (because she is hot as hell) she becomes one of those situations where the condemned monster is finally accepted by someone. Or compound the problems which would lead to the bad route and you just go with all the bad decisions and send everything to hell, go with whatever she says and make stuff worse. Plus you could still have that secret ending where you choose all her choices making her an even bigger monster and lead to that ending. That I guess could add to the repalyability you were talking about.

 

[NeroZee]

I don't quite remember that first scene but was there a part during that scene with Lilith where she showed uncertainty? I kind of remember something like that but I can't remember what it was about. So if they expand on her story maybe it could work with a her in the harem, where yeah she still embodies the kind of allure and charm she already has and work out what happened to her. Something like that could diverge the paths further where you choose either working out her past and while not changing her (because she is hot as hell) she becomes one of those situations where the condemned monster is finally accepted by someone. Or compound the problems which would lead to the bad route and you just go with all the bad decisions and send everything to hell, go with whatever she says and make stuff worse. Plus you could still have that secret ending where you choose all her choices making her an even bigger monster and lead to that ending. That I guess could add to the repalyability you were talking about.

Are you sure? I dont remember her showing uncertainty, i know Freya did, Freya is currently struggling whether she wants to go full evil or not she thinks she does but is also being held back by doubt and pretends to act like she doesnt care about mortal lives but then saved that one human that Lilith killed for instance, Lilith even teased her about showing said doubt. But as far as i remember Lilith never showed any doubt herself she not only showed clear evil actions and determination, she enjoys it greatly. Made fun of the guy whose soul she ate by calling him a masochist, she outright tells Freya she will absorb the main characters soul while smiling and laughing about the whole ordeal, while the main character thinks she is helping him. Even if you reject Liliths offer she still says the same only that this time she will show him pain and pleasure for rejecting her first, implying that she will torture him. She is very clear cut evil with zero doubts. Which is exactly what a succubus should be honestly, their entire point is to seduce men, trick them, play into their insecurities and have them trust them only to take their souls and sentence them to eternal damnation.

She is an evil demon and i think that's cool. People dont appreciate enough characters like that, not everyone has to sit around a camp fire and sing kumbaya. The game has outright good characters like Juno and all the other girls, some that are morally grey like Freya who the dev set up as being able to probaly go either way depending on what MC does and some that are just selfishly evil like Lilith.

I do get your point about possibly creating even more paths but at the same time i already think that jojozz is doing more than enough, if he adds even more its gonna increase the workload quite a bit, turn this into Baldurs Gate 3 lol and also seems to go against his general idea so far as i said i dont think he made Lilith a character that is anything else but a sexy, evil demon.
I do agree with you she is hot as hell, but part of that is because of just how unapologetically evil she is, how much she relishes in it she talks about the MC like he is a piece of meat ready to be feasted upon, she cries fake tears to the main character just so he would accept her deal knowing full well she just wants to devour him lol. It's fun to experience a path like that with so many other paths it would be a shame if the dev didnt just have one where everything goes to shit for the MC and he just gets eaten up for being too naive and too trustworthy. Which is also why i think people are giving the dev too much of a hard time when it comes to the MC, him being kind of a dumbass and a bit naive is what makes all this work.

Maybe i am wrong, maybe the dev wants to have a path where he redeems her but I am not seeing it in the game so far and personally i hate when succubi are redeemed, keep them the way they are, they are so much cooler when they want to kill you than when they wanna hold hands with you lol, the combo of being super sexy while also deadly is what makes them so great IMO.

 

[jojozz]

Are you sure? I dont remember her showing uncertainty, i know Freya did, Freya is currently struggling whether she wants to go full evil or not she thinks she does but is also being held back by doubt and pretends to act like she doesnt care about mortal lives but then saved that one human that Lilith killed for instance, Lilith even teased her about showing said doubt. But as far as i remember Lilith never showed any doubt herself she not only showed clear evil actions and determination, she enjoys it greatly. Made fun of the guy whose soul she ate by calling him a masochist, she outright tells Freya she will absorb the main characters soul while smiling and laughing about the whole ordeal, while the main character thinks she is helping him. Even if you reject Liliths offer she still says the same only that this time she will show him pain and pleasure for rejecting her first, implying that she will torture him. She is very clear cut evil with zero doubts. Which is exactly what a succubus should be honestly, their entire point is to seduce men, trick them, play into their insecurities and have them trust them only to take their souls and sentence them to eternal damnation.

She is an evil demon and i think that's cool. People dont appreciate enough characters like that, not everyone has to sit around a camp fire and sing kumbaya. The game has outright good characters like Juno and all the other girls, some that are morally grey like Freya who the dev set up as being able to probaly go either way depending on what MC does and some that are just selfishly evil like Lilith.

I do get your point about possibly creating even more paths but at the same time i already think that jojozz is doing more than enough, if he adds even more its gonna increase the workload quite a bit, turn this into Baldurs Gate 3 lol and also seems to go against his general idea so far as i said i dont think he made Lilith a character that is anything else but a sexy, evil demon.
I do agree with you she is hot as hell, but part of that is because of just how unapologetically evil she is, how much she relishes in it she talks about the MC like he is a piece of meat ready to be feasted upon, she cries fake tears to the main character just so he would accept her deal knowing full well she just wants to devour him lol. It's fun to experience a path like that with so many other paths it would be a shame if the dev didnt just have one where everything goes to shit for the MC and he just gets eaten up for being too naive and too trustworthy. Which is also why i think people are giving the dev too much of a hard time when it comes to the MC, him being kind of a dumbass and a bit naive is what makes all this work.

Maybe i am wrong, maybe the dev wants to have a path where he redeems her but I am not seeing it in the game so far and personally i hate when succubi are redeemed, keep them the way they are, they are so much cooler when they want to kill you than when they wanna hold hands with you lol, the combo of being super sexy while also deadly is what makes them so great IMO.

My intention for Lilith is more on the "pure evil" side of things. I try to think what a harem situation would be with her and I don't think it would work since she "wants" MC all to herself. I want to do a lot of endings (not to the point where it is overwhelming) since I like the idea of just making some different choices in a playthrough leading to a completely different ending. But these endings wouldn't be like the Harem ending which will be straightforward and easy for people to do.
I like to think of Lilith as the pure lust type of choice.

 

[NeroZee]

My intention for Lilith is more on the "pure evil" side of things. I try to think what a harem situation would be with her and I don't think it would work since she "wants" MC all to herself. I want to do a lot of endings (not to the point where it is overwhelming) since I like the idea of just making some different choices in a playthrough leading to a completely different ending. But these endings wouldn't be like the Harem ending which will be straightforward and easy for people to do.
I like to think of Lilith as the pure lust type of choice.

Yea thats what i have gotten from the game so far, so we are on the same page. Lilith doesn't seem like the redeeming type and with her intentions being stated outright as in she sees the MC as food she is playing with, imagining her in a loving harem really doesn't work IMO. I fully support the idea of more endings as long as you dont burden yourself too much, i always appreciated when games do that even if it's just a single choice you make that can immediately lead to a different outcome or if its multiple choices that slowly build up over time and lead to either glory or your demise. Anyone that loves game like Projekt Passion knows what i am talking about.
As a succubus and not just any succubus but the Queen succubus herself, she should be lust incarnate, she is a being of pure corruption, which means every choice the MC makes in her favor just further corrupts him while leading him straight into the palm of her hand

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Almost like it was foreshadowed