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I think Lilith wouldnt work for a harem, she is very openly evil first time we see her she kills a man by devouring his soul, the dev would need to do a lot of work to convert her to the good side and that would kinda ruin her IMO and i really like her and wouldn't want to see her ruined.
With the many different paths planned it would be cool to have one where everything goes bad for the MC, have one where Lilith plays into his naivety of trusting her too easily and greed/insecurity of being afraid he might lose all the other girls if he doesn't get her help, only for it to come crashing down on his head in the end when she fucks him over.

Most of the endings are on the good side, you can get almost every girl in one giant harem, it be cool to have at least one or two where the MC is just totally fucked because he made all the "wrong" choices. It adds to the overall replayability and also makes the choices matter. I dunno about you but i have played so many games on here where choices dont matter or make very little difference in the end and that just pisses me off, the complete illusion of choice. I am hoping this game is different and from the looks of it so far jojozz is doing a great job of it, if i follow the path with the good goddess i should have good things happen, if i pick an evil succubus demon then that means bad things will happen there are plenty of warnings to us as a player so there is no surprise there, simple as.
I don't quite remember that first scene but was there a part during that scene with Lilith where she showed uncertainty? I kind of remember something like that but I can't remember what it was about. So if they expand on her story maybe it could work with a her in the harem, where yeah she still embodies the kind of allure and charm she already has and work out what happened to her. Something like that could diverge the paths further where you choose either working out her past and while not changing her (because she is hot as hell) she becomes one of those situations where the condemned monster is finally accepted by someone. Or compound the problems which would lead to the bad route and you just go with all the bad decisions and send everything to hell, go with whatever she says and make stuff worse. Plus you could still have that secret ending where you choose all her choices making her an even bigger monster and lead to that ending. That I guess could add to the repalyability you were talking about.
 

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I don't quite remember that first scene but was there a part during that scene with Lilith where she showed uncertainty? I kind of remember something like that but I can't remember what it was about. So if they expand on her story maybe it could work with a her in the harem, where yeah she still embodies the kind of allure and charm she already has and work out what happened to her. Something like that could diverge the paths further where you choose either working out her past and while not changing her (because she is hot as hell) she becomes one of those situations where the condemned monster is finally accepted by someone. Or compound the problems which would lead to the bad route and you just go with all the bad decisions and send everything to hell, go with whatever she says and make stuff worse. Plus you could still have that secret ending where you choose all her choices making her an even bigger monster and lead to that ending. That I guess could add to the repalyability you were talking about.
Are you sure? I dont remember her showing uncertainty, i know Freya did, Freya is currently struggling whether she wants to go full evil or not she thinks she does but is also being held back by doubt and pretends to act like she doesnt care about mortal lives but then saved that one human that Lilith killed for instance, Lilith even teased her about showing said doubt. But as far as i remember Lilith never showed any doubt herself she not only showed clear evil actions and determination, she enjoys it greatly. Made fun of the guy whose soul she ate by calling him a masochist, she outright tells Freya she will absorb the main characters soul while smiling and laughing about the whole ordeal, while the main character thinks she is helping him. Even if you reject Liliths offer she still says the same only that this time she will show him pain and pleasure for rejecting her first, implying that she will torture him. She is very clear cut evil with zero doubts. Which is exactly what a succubus should be honestly, their entire point is to seduce men, trick them, play into their insecurities and have them trust them only to take their souls and sentence them to eternal damnation.

She is an evil demon and i think that's cool. People dont appreciate enough characters like that, not everyone has to sit around a camp fire and sing kumbaya. The game has outright good characters like Juno and all the other girls, some that are morally grey like Freya who the dev set up as being able to probaly go either way depending on what MC does and some that are just selfishly evil like Lilith.

I do get your point about possibly creating even more paths but at the same time i already think that jojozz is doing more than enough, if he adds even more its gonna increase the workload quite a bit, turn this into Baldurs Gate 3 lol and also seems to go against his general idea so far as i said i dont think he made Lilith a character that is anything else but a sexy, evil demon.
I do agree with you she is hot as hell, but part of that is because of just how unapologetically evil she is, how much she relishes in it she talks about the MC like he is a piece of meat ready to be feasted upon, she cries fake tears to the main character just so he would accept her deal knowing full well she just wants to devour him lol. It's fun to experience a path like that with so many other paths it would be a shame if the dev didnt just have one where everything goes to shit for the MC and he just gets eaten up for being too naive and too trustworthy. Which is also why i think people are giving the dev too much of a hard time when it comes to the MC, him being kind of a dumbass and a bit naive is what makes all this work.

Maybe i am wrong, maybe the dev wants to have a path where he redeems her but I am not seeing it in the game so far and personally i hate when succubi are redeemed, keep them the way they are, they are so much cooler when they want to kill you than when they wanna hold hands with you lol, the combo of being super sexy while also deadly is what makes them so great IMO.
 
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Are you sure? I dont remember her showing uncertainty, i know Freya did, Freya is currently struggling whether she wants to go full evil or not she thinks she does but is also being held back by doubt and pretends to act like she doesnt care about mortal lives but then saved that one human that Lilith killed for instance, Lilith even teased her about showing said doubt. But as far as i remember Lilith never showed any doubt herself she not only showed clear evil actions and determination, she enjoys it greatly. Made fun of the guy whose soul she ate by calling him a masochist, she outright tells Freya she will absorb the main characters soul while smiling and laughing about the whole ordeal, while the main character thinks she is helping him. Even if you reject Liliths offer she still says the same only that this time she will show him pain and pleasure for rejecting her first, implying that she will torture him. She is very clear cut evil with zero doubts. Which is exactly what a succubus should be honestly, their entire point is to seduce men, trick them, play into their insecurities and have them trust them only to take their souls and sentence them to eternal damnation.

She is an evil demon and i think that's cool. People dont appreciate enough characters like that, not everyone has to sit around a camp fire and sing kumbaya. The game has outright good characters like Juno and all the other girls, some that are morally grey like Freya who the dev set up as being able to probaly go either way depending on what MC does and some that are just selfishly evil like Lilith.

I do get your point about possibly creating even more paths but at the same time i already think that jojozz is doing more than enough, if he adds even more its gonna increase the workload quite a bit, turn this into Baldurs Gate 3 lol and also seems to go against his general idea so far as i said i dont think he made Lilith a character that is anything else but a sexy, evil demon.
I do agree with you she is hot as hell, but part of that is because of just how unapologetically evil she is, how much she relishes in it she talks about the MC like he is a piece of meat ready to be feasted upon, she cries fake tears to the main character just so he would accept her deal knowing full well she just wants to devour him lol. It's fun to experience a path like that with so many other paths it would be a shame if the dev didnt just have one where everything goes to shit for the MC and he just gets eaten up for being too naive and too trustworthy. Which is also why i think people are giving the dev too much of a hard time when it comes to the MC, him being kind of a dumbass and a bit naive is what makes all this work.

Maybe i am wrong, maybe the dev wants to have a path where he redeems her but I am not seeing it in the game so far and personally i hate when succubi are redeemed, keep them the way they are, they are so much cooler when they want to kill you than when they wanna hold hands with you lol, the combo of being super sexy while also deadly is what makes them so great IMO.
My intention for Lilith is more on the "pure evil" side of things. I try to think what a harem situation would be with her and I don't think it would work since she "wants" MC all to herself. I want to do a lot of endings (not to the point where it is overwhelming) since I like the idea of just making some different choices in a playthrough leading to a completely different ending. But these endings wouldn't be like the Harem ending which will be straightforward and easy for people to do.
I like to think of Lilith as the pure lust type of choice.
 

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My intention for Lilith is more on the "pure evil" side of things. I try to think what a harem situation would be with her and I don't think it would work since she "wants" MC all to herself. I want to do a lot of endings (not to the point where it is overwhelming) since I like the idea of just making some different choices in a playthrough leading to a completely different ending. But these endings wouldn't be like the Harem ending which will be straightforward and easy for people to do.
I like to think of Lilith as the pure lust type of choice.
Yea thats what i have gotten from the game so far, so we are on the same page. Lilith doesn't seem like the redeeming type and with her intentions being stated outright as in she sees the MC as food she is playing with, imagining her in a loving harem really doesn't work IMO. I fully support the idea of more endings as long as you dont burden yourself too much, i always appreciated when games do that even if it's just a single choice you make that can immediately lead to a different outcome or if its multiple choices that slowly build up over time and lead to either glory or your demise. Anyone that loves game like Projekt Passion knows what i am talking about.
As a succubus and not just any succubus but the Queen succubus herself, she should be lust incarnate, she is a being of pure corruption, which means every choice the MC makes in her favor just further corrupts him while leading him straight into the palm of her hand
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Almost like it was foreshadowed ;)
 

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My intention for Lilith is more on the "pure evil" side of things. I try to think what a harem situation would be with her and I don't think it would work since she "wants" MC all to herself. I want to do a lot of endings (not to the point where it is overwhelming) since I like the idea of just making some different choices in a playthrough leading to a completely different ending. But these endings wouldn't be like the Harem ending which will be straightforward and easy for people to do.
I like to think of Lilith as the pure lust type of choice.
Something I have been wondering though, it was just a what if sort of situation. As Juno's chosen champion would the MC be able to seduce or possibly make other goddesses fall in love with him like Aphrodite? Or is it more of his personality and winning them over the old fashioned way, which he seems to be doing more of with human girls?

But back to the whole Lillith conversation, I just wish there was a way to get her on the harem path. That is just my personal wish. Like turning the tables on her on making her the MC's, because if he ever got the point where he could seduce the goddesses it just seems like he might be able to do that with Lillith.
 
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Something I have been wondering though, it was just a what if sort of situation. As Juno's chosen champion would the MC be able to seduce or possibly make other goddesses fall in love with him like Aphrodite? Or is it more of his personality and winning them over the old fashioned way, which he seems to be doing more of with human girls?

But back to the whole Lillith conversation, I just wish there was a way to get her on the harem path. That is just my personal wish. Like turning the tables on her on making her the MC's, because if he ever got the point where he could seduce the goddesses it just seems like he might be able to do that with Lillith.
I dont think it's possible dude with the way she is. She is pretty unapolegetic about it
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You would have to fundamentally change her as a character, it's not just about MC having to seduce her but turn her from being pure evil to being good, it breaks the character. I think the dev has said his peace on it...
 
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jojozz Thank you for including her.:love:
Finally after a year I think.
Just had one query like for mom and sis pregnancy will be a option.

jojozz For this character, will pregnancy be there ?
She is going to play a small/supporting role in the story so I am not sure if there will be pregnancy. I will see if I can fit it into the story (y)
 

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She is going to play a small/supporting role in the story so I am not sure if there will be pregnancy. I will see if I can fit it into the story (y)
jojozz Thank you for answering.

Hope u make her role a little big not just limited to her work which she came for and just falls for MC like mom and sister and then stays together with them.
And hoooopppppe you add the pregnancy(a big hope there:love: :LOL:)
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Who wouldn't love to have another family member added to the MC harem as well in the house...she would take only one bed in the house not more than that:LOL:
 
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Just played the latest updated and was able to try the variables with flowers to see different sex scenes with Veronica and Valerie but apparently before any of those scenes there was a scene with Dr. Kendall. This seemingly happens in the new update, following the choice to accept or reject Lilith's help but the MC never even went to the hospital. Was there a choice in the previous update that led to this? I followed the last version of the walkthrough that MrBubu made but there was no indication that any choices would lead to this scene being omitted.

Anyone know what choice(s) will open up this scene or what branching paths cause it to close? I can, of course, watch the scene with the scene player on the main menu but I would like it to be part of the MC's actual experience and help him achieve full harem ending.


** BTW: Kudos to all Dev's that make scene replays available to all players. Yes, some people might just watch those and never go through all the dialogue but I think a lot of people are like me who use it to check against progress and think about what choices we can revise for a better experience.
 

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All this talk about MC being the weakest point of the story just really flies by people's eyes. That's, I don't know, part of the story. The story of a "Chosen One" who overtime learns how to become a proper man. That MC starts off as a prettyboy aka a bitch, but slowly matures into a proper man. That's how stories unfold. Folks, it's as the saying the goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

You can say MC being somewhat of a wimp in the beginning is a no-go for you, however I would argue that it would play much more into the potential turn he takes as "the chosen one".

Has Anakin Skywalker not taught any of you anything?
its not that he's a wimp its that he has 0 spine and less brain.... the dude is so brain dead he shouldnt be allowed to respirate unsupervised for fear he just forgets to do so

so glad the dev is going back to rework him
 
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- In both the gym and the hospital, MC is showing his true calling: Bullshitting at the drop of a hat. Seriously, what was even happening in the hospital? He says his neck hurts, so he goes to the clinic. Okay, understandable. So he goes to the desk and complains about a pulled groin, which is stupid for three reasons. 1) What kind of scumbag would actually take up a medical professional's time by feigning an injury while sexually harassing them? 2) The moment the nurse he's talking to says she'll examine him, he tries to backpedal. What did he expect? 3) He had a legitimate reason for wanting an exam, his neck. Get that checked out, you moron. Though at this point, maybe he should have his head examined instead.

I know it's old, but it's too funny to let that go ^^. That guy is the kind who goes to the casino every day and spends his whole day there complaining out loud about people wasting their money and how playing with money is bad haha

Dude go see a therapist if you're disgusted by what you do, we're not here to listen to your issues.
 

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Just one minor critique. Why is the exe named after the chapter? You know that makes it impossible for there to be persistent saves in Roaming folder, right? Every chapter will have a different EXE name.
This is a very relevant remark. jojozz please respect Renpy programming conventions, you are preventing the correct execution of all automated mechanisms with this.
 

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jojozz could you please explain how to follow the harem path ? This question stems from the "I have multiple potential soulmates" answer when with Valerie in the park/river scene which is not explained in the walkthrough (is marked as not doing anything now if I understand the legend correctly) and marked as a red choice with the walkthrough mod in-game. So do we need to make that choice for the harem ending in later updates, even if this currently leads to Valerie rejecting us ?
 

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jojozz could you please explain how to follow the harem path ? This question stems from the "I have multiple potential soulmates" answer when with Valerie in the park/river scene which is not explained in the walkthrough (is marked as not doing anything now if I understand the legend correctly) and marked as a red choice with the walkthrough mod in-game. So do we need to make that choice for the harem ending in later updates, even if this currently leads to Valerie rejecting us ?
Pick "I think I found someone" opition. The reason why I had the made the "Multiple potential soulmates" choice a "bad" answer is that Valerie wouldn't be ready to understand/accept that idea.
As the story continues, characters will start getting involved with the "mythical" elements of world and at the same time fall in love with MC, so at that point they will be accepting of being in MC's Harem.

In short: Just pick the best choices for a character and you will be fine with the Harem ending. When it comes to choices that divert from other characters just vary who you pick and it will lead to the Harem ending. But if you pick one particular character you will get their specific ending.

This is just an example:

Veronica ending:
Choice A: Veronica
Choice B: Veronica
Choice C: Veronica


Harem ending:
Choice A: Natalya
Choice B: Valerie
Choice C: Veronica


So far, the only choice that diverts from other characters is the "Flower" choice. In future updates, there will be more of those choices.

Does that make sense?
 
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