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VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

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Stan5851

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gerban15 said:
(an example can be maybe Luna's fall from grace, but there are fewer sexy times). Thanks.
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Luna (evil route/Bad Ass) is without a doubt a very cool heroine.
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If our Olivia had her powers, the Karlsson Corporation would definitely have a new leader with the makings of an infernal sadistic dictator, and Juliette would be licking Olivia's heels, obediently sitting on a leash near the throne. :giggle:
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I don't think any actual sexy time between Olivia and Kane is possible in the current version, but it has been hinted that we'll see some in the future updates.
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Can you tell me who made that hint? The last thing I remember about the possibility of sex between Kane and Olivia was an encouraging post last year from BigStuffedTiger, but I'm not sure if Tess reacted to it or not.
 
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I think Veronica is not necessarily evil. She's unethical in her experiments and indifferent to people's suffering, sure, but those are not out of malice in most cases.

A more detailed breakdown of how I view the examples you've stated

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Thank you so much for your reply and thoughts on Veronica.

I will break down my replies with my thoughts within a Spoiler tag:

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I know that was a very long read but I have to ask you, do you still think that "She's unethical in her experiments and indifferent to people's suffering " does not make her Evil?
 
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Stan5851 said:
Can you tell me who made that hint? The last thing I remember about the possibility of sex between Kane and Olivia was an encouraging post last year from BigStuffedTiger, but I'm not sure if Tess reacted to it or not.
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Sorry, I can no longer recall with certainty, but I think Tess herself has hinted it on Discord once or twice a while ago.

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I know that was a very long read but I have to ask you, do you still think that "She's unethical in her experiments and indifferent to people's suffering " does not make her Evil?
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There is no objective definition of "evil"... every person has their own subjective perception of what is "evil", so it's pretty pointless to argue about such things, IMHO
 
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Leo Humilis said:
There is no objective definition of "evil"... every person has their own subjective perception of what is "evil", so it's pretty pointless to argue about such things, IMHO
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I am not trying to argue anything but plainly am discussing things.

But I have to disagree with you that there isn't an "objective Definition of evil". Just look at what we can define the English language with ;). What I do understand from what you have said is "I don't think this criteria fits my ideology". But yes, "real" definitions do exist.

If we all "redefine" the language to what we want it to be, our world would fall apart.

Thanks for listening,

Joseph
 
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“Evil is evil, Stregobor,” said the witcher seriously as he got up. “Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I’m not a pious hermit. I haven't done only good in my life. But if I’m to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”

Geralt of Rivia, the Witcher.

But we don't have the luxury of the Witcher and our Kane and Olivia had to choose greater, middle or lesser evil and make an "alliance" with the Karlsson sisters.
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Stan5851 said:
“Evil is evil, Stregobor,” said the witcher seriously as he got up. “Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I’m not a pious hermit. I haven't done only good in my life. But if I’m to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”

Geralt of Rivia, the Witcher.

But we don't have the luxury of the Witcher and our Kane and Olivia had to choose greater, middle or lesser evil and make an "alliance" with the Karlsson sisters.
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Imagine waking up, going to f95 to see if there's anything new in your favorite games and finding a part of The Witcher script, just a game I'm playing right now :LOL:
 
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Liljoe757 said:
Thank you so much for your reply and thoughts on Veronica.

I will break down my replies with my thoughts within a Spoiler tag:

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I know that was a very long read but I have to ask you, do you still think that "She's unethical in her experiments and indifferent to people's suffering " does not make her Evil?
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I should probably break my reply into parts for specific sections, but I'm lazy and that's too much work. I might also miss some points since your post is really big. So apologize in advance
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Kxca said:
I should probably break my reply into parts for specific sections, but I'm lazy and that's too much work. I might also miss some points since your post is really big. So apologize in advance
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You bring up some good points but I do not agree with everything you said. And it is a good thing in life to have differing opinions.

I really have found this discussion with you and others to be very stimulating (and I have far too much time on my hands).

After pondering things over, I think I will revise my summation of Veronica to perhaps a 60/40 split between Evil/Good. I just cannot excuse her from nor believe she has not indulged in "the Dark Side".

Throughout this discussion I've been hearing a lot of "excuses" for her behavior but I feel that does not totally absolve her nor negate the fact that she has done a lot of Evil things. I don't think she is necessarily sadistic, well not to the extent of her sisters, but there is a little of that in her too. Of course that opinion could well be up for debate also.

Well I think that is about it for me as this discussion has probably run its' course by now.

Thank you to all for keeping this civil and enlightening (not something you see very often in forums with differing opinions, I am very greatful for that),

Joseph
 
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Liljoe757 said:
You bring up some good points but I do not agree with everything you said. And it is a good thing in life to have differing opinions.

I really have found this discussion with you and others to be very stimulating (and I have far too much time on my hands).

After pondering things over, I think I will revise my summation of Veronica to perhaps a 60/40 split between Evil/Good. I just cannot excuse her from nor believe she has not indulged in "the Dark Side".

Throughout this discussion I've been hearing a lot of "excuses" for her behavior but I feel that does not totally absolve her nor negate the fact that she has done a lot of Evil things. I don't think she is necessarily sadistic, well not to the extent of her sisters, but there is a little of that in her too. Of course that opinion could well be up for debate also.

Well I think that is about it for me as this discussion has probably run its' course by now.

Thank you to all for keeping this civil and enlightening (not something you see very often in forums with differing opinions, I am very greatful for that),

Joseph
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Cool chat about Veronica.Now what about the mysterious Alessandra is she ready as straight forward as some claim?
 
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Cool chat about Veronica.Now what about the mysterious Alessandra is she ready as straight forward as some claim?
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Alessandra's nowhere near as straightforward as the others think. Out of all the sisters shes easily the hugest schemer and she's pretty much aligned with everybody at the moment so nobody sees her as the threat she is.
 
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I downloaded the mod and I wanna play the maledom path (not really into femdom . I know I need to get K1 for that but from what I've seen in the mod hints - there will be 4 paths (cuz 4 sisters). For which sister should I try to score more points (like answering the questions in the initial test) if I want to mainly see maledom content? Which sis can I dominate the most? It would be really fun If I could turn the tables on that blonde sadistic chick (forgot her name - the one who was using brain dead dudes in her private yatch). But from what I've played - i gotta say the writing is just soo good - it feels like I'm actually reading a novel instead of an amateur porn game. The characters have depth and aren't just one dimensional tropes, the world building is quite interesting, the whole family competition is written so well, and the mystery is quite intriguing too, and the erotic parts are pretty hot too.
 
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Dezzed Miles said:
I downloaded the mod and I wanna play the maledom path (not really into femdom . I know I need to get K1 for that but from what I've seen in the mod hints - there will be 4 paths (cuz 4 sisters). For which sister should I try to score more points (like answering the questions in the initial test) if I want to mainly see maledom content? Which sis can I dominate the most? It would be really fun If I could turn the tables on that blonde sadistic chick (forgot her name - the one who was using brain dead dudes in her private yatch). But from what I've played - i gotta say the writing is just soo good - it feels like I'm actually reading a novel instead of an amateur porn game. The characters have depth and aren't just one dimensional tropes, the world building is quite interesting, the whole family competition is written so well, and the mystery is quite intriguing too, and the erotic parts are pretty hot too.
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