VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[gerban15]

Hi, I played the first two chapters and quite enjoy it so far. I wanted to ask some spoilery questions about paths I want to pursue. Generally, I like mostly one female MC that is dominant and even sadistic but at the same time loving to the male MC (humiliation can be loving too ), and could be bitch to others. So in regards Olivia, the path is pretty clear: just play her evil and dom.
With regards to Kane I would like one main romantic/erotic interest that is dominant but loving (possibly plus his evil dom-sis as co-tormenter). I looked into the walkthrough and found two paths that somewhat lean toward this (in the spoiler).

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Is there some other option I could pursue? Thanks.

Also is there some other game where you play mostly as the female (evil) dom with similar kinks? Cause for me Olivia's parts are the best. (an example can be maybe Luna's fall from grace, but there are fewer sexy times). Thanks.

 

[Leo Humilis]

Hi, I played the first two chapters and quite enjoy it so far. I wanted to ask some spoilery questions about paths I want to pursue. Generally, I like mostly one female MC that is dominant and even sadistic but at the same time loving to the male MC (humiliation can be loving too ), and could be bitch to others. So in regards Olivia, the path is pretty clear: just play her evil and dom.
With regards to Kane I would like one main romantic/erotic interest that is dominant but loving (possibly plus his evil dom-sis as co-tormenter). I looked into the walkthrough and found two paths that somewhat lean toward this (in the spoiler).

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Is there some other option I could pursue? Thanks.

Also is there some other game where you play mostly as the female (evil) dom with similar kinks? Cause for me Olivia's parts are the best. (an example can be maybe Luna's fall from grace, but there are fewer sexy times). Thanks.

If you want to play Olivia as evil/dom and want to play Kane as a sub and be on good terms with her, you should also play him as evil and have him suck up to her as much as possible (but attention: getting too many "brownie points" with Olivia or guards could toss him on subK5 route, which is somewhat dommy). I don't think any actual sexy time between Olivia and Kane is possible in the current version (unless you count a couple of humiliation scenes like shoe-licking), but it has been hinted that we'll see some in the future updates.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

The way I see the sisters and their flexability:

Olivia: obvious, we control her
Juliette: she is what she is at this point. If you're sadistic and into her, you'll go with her ( though you probably wont like the results).
Dominique- She'll surpress her more sadistic impulses unless you encourage them. Knows whats morally right but is willing to go against that if it gets her what she wants.
Veronica-Unless she's a kane LI, she'll likely ride the line between good and evil. Not as sadistic as the other sisters, but that doesnt mean she wont hurt a bitch if needed to complete her goals.
Alessandra- she's the most intriguing to me. She plays the unassuming non-threatening sister who goes with the flow, but she's anything but that. You can probably somewhat bend her, but you can only bend her so far one way or the other before she'll destroy you. Probably the most confident sister who is happiest with what she is.

 

[Stan5851]

(an example can be maybe Luna's fall from grace, but there are fewer sexy times). Thanks.

Luna (evil route/Bad Ass) is without a doubt a very cool heroine.

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If our Olivia had her powers, the Karlsson Corporation would definitely have a new leader with the makings of an infernal sadistic dictator, and Juliette would be licking Olivia's heels, obediently sitting on a leash near the throne.

I don't think any actual sexy time between Olivia and Kane is possible in the current version, but it has been hinted that we'll see some in the future updates.

Can you tell me who made that hint? The last thing I remember about the possibility of sex between Kane and Olivia was an encouraging post last year from BigStuffedTiger, but I'm not sure if Tess reacted to it or not.

 

[Liljoe757]

I think Veronica is not necessarily evil. She's unethical in her experiments and indifferent to people's suffering, sure, but those are not out of malice in most cases.

A more detailed breakdown of how I view the examples you've stated

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Thank you so much for your reply and thoughts on Veronica.

I will break down my replies with my thoughts within a Spoiler tag:

Spoiler: My Broken Up Replies

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I know that was a very long read but I have to ask you, do you still think that "She's unethical in her experiments and indifferent to people's suffering " does not make her Evil?

 

[Leo Humilis]

Can you tell me who made that hint? The last thing I remember about the possibility of sex between Kane and Olivia was an encouraging post last year from BigStuffedTiger, but I'm not sure if Tess reacted to it or not.

Sorry, I can no longer recall with certainty, but I think Tess herself has hinted it on Discord once or twice a while ago.

I know that was a very long read but I have to ask you, do you still think that "She's unethical in her experiments and indifferent to people's suffering " does not make her Evil?

There is no objective definition of "evil"... every person has their own subjective perception of what is "evil", so it's pretty pointless to argue about such things, IMHO

 

[Liljoe757]

There is no objective definition of "evil"... every person has their own subjective perception of what is "evil", so it's pretty pointless to argue about such things, IMHO

I am not trying to argue anything but plainly am discussing things.

But I have to disagree with you that there isn't an "objective Definition of evil". Just look at what we can define the English language with . What I do understand from what you have said is "I don't think this criteria fits my ideology". But yes, "real" definitions do exist.

If we all "redefine" the language to what we want it to be, our world would fall apart.

Thanks for listening,

Joseph

 

[Stan5851]

“Evil is evil, Stregobor,” said the witcher seriously as he got up. “Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I’m not a pious hermit. I haven't done only good in my life. But if I’m to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”

Geralt of Rivia, the Witcher.

But we don't have the luxury of the Witcher and our Kane and Olivia had to choose greater, middle or lesser evil and make an "alliance" with the Karlsson sisters.

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[Don Sucio]

“Evil is evil, Stregobor,” said the witcher seriously as he got up. “Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I’m not a pious hermit. I haven't done only good in my life. But if I’m to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”

Geralt of Rivia, the Witcher.

But we don't have the luxury of the Witcher and our Kane and Olivia had to choose greater, middle or lesser evil and make an "alliance" with the Karlsson sisters.

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Imagine waking up, going to f95 to see if there's anything new in your favorite games and finding a part of The Witcher script, just a game I'm playing right now

 

[Kxca]

Thank you so much for your reply and thoughts on Veronica.

I will break down my replies with my thoughts within a Spoiler tag:

Spoiler: My Broken Up Replies

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I know that was a very long read but I have to ask you, do you still think that "She's unethical in her experiments and indifferent to people's suffering " does not make her Evil?

I should probably break my reply into parts for specific sections, but I'm lazy and that's too much work. I might also miss some points since your post is really big. So apologize in advance

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[Liljoe757]

I should probably break my reply into parts for specific sections, but I'm lazy and that's too much work. I might also miss some points since your post is really big. So apologize in advance

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You bring up some good points but I do not agree with everything you said. And it is a good thing in life to have differing opinions.

I really have found this discussion with you and others to be very stimulating (and I have far too much time on my hands).

After pondering things over, I think I will revise my summation of Veronica to perhaps a 60/40 split between Evil/Good. I just cannot excuse her from nor believe she has not indulged in "the Dark Side".

Throughout this discussion I've been hearing a lot of "excuses" for her behavior but I feel that does not totally absolve her nor negate the fact that she has done a lot of Evil things. I don't think she is necessarily sadistic, well not to the extent of her sisters, but there is a little of that in her too. Of course that opinion could well be up for debate also.

Well I think that is about it for me as this discussion has probably run its' course by now.

Thank you to all for keeping this civil and enlightening (not something you see very often in forums with differing opinions, I am very greatful for that),

Joseph

 

[PGpauljp13]

You bring up some good points but I do not agree with everything you said. And it is a good thing in life to have differing opinions.

I really have found this discussion with you and others to be very stimulating (and I have far too much time on my hands).

After pondering things over, I think I will revise my summation of Veronica to perhaps a 60/40 split between Evil/Good. I just cannot excuse her from nor believe she has not indulged in "the Dark Side".

Throughout this discussion I've been hearing a lot of "excuses" for her behavior but I feel that does not totally absolve her nor negate the fact that she has done a lot of Evil things. I don't think she is necessarily sadistic, well not to the extent of her sisters, but there is a little of that in her too. Of course that opinion could well be up for debate also.

Well I think that is about it for me as this discussion has probably run its' course by now.

Thank you to all for keeping this civil and enlightening (not something you see very often in forums with differing opinions, I am very greatful for that),

Joseph

Cool chat about Veronica.Now what about the mysterious Alessandra is she ready as straight forward as some claim?

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Cool chat about Veronica.Now what about the mysterious Alessandra is she ready as straight forward as some claim?

Alessandra's nowhere near as straightforward as the others think. Out of all the sisters shes easily the hugest schemer and she's pretty much aligned with everybody at the moment so nobody sees her as the threat she is.

 

[Deleted member 2871870]

I downloaded the mod and I wanna play the maledom path (not really into femdom . I know I need to get K1 for that but from what I've seen in the mod hints - there will be 4 paths (cuz 4 sisters). For which sister should I try to score more points (like answering the questions in the initial test) if I want to mainly see maledom content? Which sis can I dominate the most? It would be really fun If I could turn the tables on that blonde sadistic chick (forgot her name - the one who was using brain dead dudes in her private yatch). But from what I've played - i gotta say the writing is just soo good - it feels like I'm actually reading a novel instead of an amateur porn game. The characters have depth and aren't just one dimensional tropes, the world building is quite interesting, the whole family competition is written so well, and the mystery is quite intriguing too, and the erotic parts are pretty hot too.

 

[Innocience]

I know I need to get K1 for that but from what I've seen in the mod hints.

To be dominant you want to go K10. K1 is the opposite. As for the Karlssons: you cannot really dominate any of them yet.
As for the remaining characters: You have the most opportunities of being dominant when you play for evil MC and aim for K10 and stick to Kazumi.

 

[Stan5851]

I downloaded the mod and I wanna play the maledom path (not really into femdom . I know I need to get K1 for that but from what I've seen in the mod hints - there will be 4 paths (cuz 4 sisters). For which sister should I try to score more points (like answering the questions in the initial test) if I want to mainly see maledom content? Which sis can I dominate the most? It would be really fun If I could turn the tables on that blonde sadistic chick (forgot her name - the one who was using brain dead dudes in her private yatch). But from what I've played - i gotta say the writing is just soo good - it feels like I'm actually reading a novel instead of an amateur porn game. The characters have depth and aren't just one dimensional tropes, the world building is quite interesting, the whole family competition is written so well, and the mystery is quite intriguing too, and the erotic parts are pretty hot too.

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[crotch69]

What was the last development memo about? Any insights?

 

[Drunkz]

as she has at least one historical novel (book) in her writing portfolio

Titel of the book please!

 

[gregers]

Titel of the book please!

If it's published under her own name she may not want it associated with her porn-writing persona.

 

[Stan5851]

Titel of the book please!

Not exactly the title of the book, but here is the very post where this book is mentioned.
https://f95zone.to/threads/karlssons-gambit-v0-6-2-final-grym-gudinna-games.50840/post-6972627