VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Sharpshooter890]

We've discussed Veronica's personality here many times... And the opinions about her are completely contradictory. Some consider her "Doctor Evil", others (and I'm among them) - almost the only chance to save this world, and her morally questionable decisions are dictated not by sadistic tendencies (which she doesn't have, in fact), but by severe necessity..That is, sometimes you don't have to be afraid to get your hands dirty when it comes to the survival of humanity.

I don't think being a sick bastard and having a desire to save the world are mutually exclusive. Take a famous austrian painter - a truly evil man, who also was an enviromentalist and loved animals. People are rarely black and white, we have both. However, IF it turns out it was all a ruse as Kxca wrote, I will admit defeat and go serve Veronica as a subby.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

This was a cool interaction! Also, EvilDom Kane + Juliette is absolutely viable! Damn, it feels good to be right!

Very good question. If that didn't come from the woman herself, I wouldn't have believed it

 

[Silver_Crow117]

TessSadist
We've discussed Veronica's personality here many times... And the opinions about her are completely contradictory. Some consider her "Doctor Evil", others (and I'm among them) - almost the only chance to save this world, and her morally questionable decisions are dictated not by sadistic tendencies (which she doesn't have, in fact), but by severe necessity..That is, sometimes you don't have to be afraid to get your hands dirty when it comes to the survival of humanity.

But Veronica's detractors always make one argument that they think proves that Veronica is the personification of evil. It is about the fact that she allegedly deprived all her servants of hearing. On the other hand, one of the players wrote a post here pointing out the strange behaviour of her slaves, which may indicate that there is nothing wrong with their hearing.

I'd like to know if Veronica really had to do this to her servants or is this just a scaremongering to maintain a certain opinion of her as a cruel woman? Again, if we take the scene where she is sitting in Alexander Karlsson's chair and the slave is serving her, I can see the latex mask on his head, and who's to say his ears aren't plugged with the usual ear plugs?

You DARE QUESTION ONE OF MY QUEENS? Shameful!! (I’ll get back to this when I can Hahaha)

 

[Stan5851]

Wow, the thread got resuscitated after the arrival of Tess. Lots of activity.

Stan5851 For that highly controversial scene with Veronica, I've always believed this was a carefully constructed play.

If you look closely at the renders, you will see a slave hearing Veronica's shoe drop and then going to lick her foot. That wouldn't be possible if they were deaf. And it was her mother saying that they were deaf. I think it is because she wanted Elena to believe they were in a safe environment so Elena would speak openly. And it was one of these slaves who later leaked the information of V supporting Olivia to Dominique. And this was all part of Veronica's plan- her way of testing Olivia, whether she can tackle the dual assault of Dominique+Juliette.

But now that Tess is here, we can get this cleared once and for all.

However, if Tess can't answer that question, it would mean even more confidence for me in the veracity of what you wrote about.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

so to sum it up:

Juliette/Kane are viable under certain circumstances
Callista gets unmasked this update
Bodies will start dropping in a year to a year and a half in like 2 updates from now
Speculation, but Otto will likely talk to Kane if he turns down the gameshow.
The game show is about escaping
Angelika is def the only pod member we can romance
We've likely met all the Karlsson sisters
Astrid is a very important part of the Tess universe who is somehow tied to the cannon ending

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I don't think being a sick bastard and having a desire to save the world are mutually exclusive. Take a famous austrian painter - a truly evil man, who also was an enviromentalist and loved animals. People are rarely black and white, we have both. However, IF it turns out it was all a ruse as Kxca wrote, I will admit defeat and go serve Veronica as a subby.

Join the club friend Hahaha

 

[TessSadist]

TessSadist
We've discussed Veronica's personality here many times... And the opinions about her are completely contradictory. Some consider her "Doctor Evil", others (and I'm among them) - almost the only chance to save this world, and her morally questionable decisions are dictated not by sadistic tendencies (which she doesn't have, in fact), but by severe necessity..That is, sometimes you don't have to be afraid to get your hands dirty when it comes to the survival of humanity.

But Veronica's detractors always make one argument that they think proves that Veronica is the personification of evil. It is about the fact that she allegedly deprived all her servants of hearing. On the other hand, one of the players wrote a post here pointing out the strange behaviour of her slaves, which may indicate that there is nothing wrong with their hearing.

I'd like to know if Veronica really had to do this to her servants or is this just a scaremongering to maintain a certain opinion of her as a cruel woman? Again, if we take the scene where she is sitting in Alexander Karlsson's chair and the slave is serving her, I can see the latex mask on his head, and who's to say his ears aren't plugged with the usual ear plugs?

Err got a sec on my way out to office now so not able to respond again but it might be relevant who said who was deaf and who else was in the room. (I hope I am remembering this correctly heh I was being very precise with it from memory but it's been a while)

 

[Maviarab]

Wow, the thread got resuscitated after the arrival of Tess. Lots of activity.

Stan5851 For that highly controversial scene with Veronica, I've always believed this was a carefully constructed play.

If you look closely at the renders, you will see a slave hearing Veronica's shoe drop and then going to lick her foot. That wouldn't be possible if they were deaf. And it was her mother saying that they were deaf. I think it is because she wanted Elena to believe they were in a safe environment so Elena would speak openly. And it was one of these slaves who later leaked the information of V supporting Olivia to Dominique. And this was all part of Veronica's plan- her way of testing Olivia, whether she can tackle the dual assault of Dominique+Juliette.

But now that Tess is here, we can get this cleared once and for all.

Been very active for quite some time now...just today got extra busy for the obvious reaons

 

[DoverDad]

I just woke up to find Tess is back is she wants to put me in the game, and I more than happy with that unlike the Florida Joker Man I won't try to sue I will be like look Mom I finally famous oh and welcome back TessSadist

 

[Stan5851]

so to sum it up:
Callista gets unmasked this update

If I understood correctly, Callista will be partially unmasked (whatever that means). But overall, it looks like it.

Speculation but Otto likely talks to Kane if he turns down the gameshow.

I wish you were right and it was Otto and not Callista. Because otherwise, the dilemma for my GoodDomKane will be much more acute..And the revolution...of course, I have this walkthrough, but for me it has a lower priority than the others.

The game show is about escaping

For the sub players, yeah, it looks like it. And the labyrinth may well be the easiest challenge.

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[PickerLewd]

TessSadist Hi .
It's my turn to ask the silly question .
Why are you using a image of Juliette as your profile picture here and not the picture of "Tess" used in the game's intro?
Does this mean that your "persona" and your representation in the game is Juliette? .

 

[Z - Reborn]

TessSadist Hi .
It's my turn to ask the silly question .
Why are you using a image of Juliette as your profile picture here and not the picture of "Tess" used in the game's intro?
Does this mean that your "persona" and your representation in the game is Juliette? .

Mate she self inserted in the game. Her character was in the sub-route with her boyfriend's character, and she also had a cameo a while back about designing a room or something.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Err got a sec on my way out to office now so not able to respond again but it might be relevant who said who was deaf and who else was in the room. (I hope I am remembering this correctly heh I was being very precise with it from memory but it's been a while)

See Stan5851 !!(Just tagged someone for the first time hahah) Veronica is My Queen for a reason (Besides Delilah… she’s my other Queen) Veronica is a world of Wolfs and must “Act” like one… she truly cares for “others” that’s why I can’t wait to see how her romantic sub path will turn out!! Tho maybe we can change Elena towards being good if we choose for Olivia to be good as well… but yeah! Now Delilah… she’s my other half for reasons stated already hahaha

 

[Silver_Crow117]

so to sum it up:

Juliette/Kane are viable under certain circumstances
Callista gets unmasked this update
Bodies will start dropping in a year to a year and a half in like 2 updates from now
Speculation, but Otto will likely talk to Kane if he turns down the gameshow.
The game show is about escaping
Angelika is def the only pod member we can romance
We've likely met all the Karlsson sisters
Astrid is a very important part of the Tess universe who is somehow tied to the cannon ending

For the Sub side-
- You will see your results to your choices if you pick Dominique and or Juliette as a sponsor!
- There will be a new Sponsorship presented (I think she’s slowly put more sponsorships out slowly for subs)
- you Gain Points From satisfying the VIPs and also a lot of points getting out of the Maze!
- Getting outta of the Maze is possible (mentioned above) but you can also fail as well…
- Each pod member will also have some impact on a few more traditional stats/flag like strength and dexterity that might impact things as well.
- Point System is Regarded as Gamepts
- K1 is possible if scored low enough points! If he gets out of the maze!? Does that mean if he stay he avoids it or it leads to… unfortunate end in the Maze (or not obviously)
- Part 1 is a Set up to the gameshow
- Part 2 is the Gameshow itself
- Part 3 is the resolution to the show, most likely picking sides for the factions

 

[kinkyshin]

Is this Callista?

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[Sharpshooter890]

I'm starting to suspect that my hardcore K1 Kane with Evil Olivia and no sponsorships might not make it.. Imagine being Callista in that scenario - "I raised a worthless subby and the most evil creature in the history of the world, oh man, I f'ed up more than Marcus Aurelius with his son Commodus. And everyone keeps saying how smart I am.."

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I'm starting to suspect that my hardcore K1 Kane with Evil Olivia and no sponsorships might not make it.. Imagine being Callista in that scenario - "I raised a worthless subby and the most evil creature in the history of the world, oh man, I f'ed up more than Marcus Aurelius with his son Commodus. And everyone keeps saying how smart I am.."

Depends on the K1 potential Sponsor that’s coming in this episode…(my bet it’s Elena from the previews) tho if you do have Juliette/Dominique sponsorship that would definitely save you from evil Olivia’s wraith since they mentioned they can stop her/or anyone from doing anything bad to you

 

[Stan5851]

Well, that was a very fruitful and interesting discussion along with Tess, haha.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Depends on the K1 potential Sponsor that’s coming in this episode…(my bet it’s Elena from the previews) tho if you do have Juliette/Dominique sponsorship that would definitely save you from evil Olivia’s wraith since they mentioned they can stop her/or anyone from doing anything bad to you

No no, I know that. That's why it's a "hardcore" run, so to speak. No sponsors, Kane stands on his own (well, since he's K1, kneels on his own I guess ) and (almost certainly) dies on his own, since he's the biggest looser on the planet. Nietzsche at his finest.

 

[PickerLewd]

I don't remember all the details, but I think Elena was able to give you her sponsorship at the beginning of the game, before Kane got out of jail.