VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

Yep, in my mind if MC(Dom) I'd be putting a very quick end to the deceit and bullshit... or suffer the wrath of "the chosen one" via alliances and other chess board play. But, again, that's the redneck in me thinking in the space of if I were Kane in this fictional story. The company board would have me CEO within a month, tops.

I completely agree but unfortunately, as you say, we are not the MC and he surely isn't thinking like us lol. What I find interesting (as a little fun-thought) is if we were...but only knew exactly what Kane knew...would we still say we'd do x/y/z with our personalities or would we too think..woahh...hang on a min...maybe take a step back and evaluate our situation.

Easy to say what we'd be like and do...when 1. We have more info than our hapless hero does and 2. Not in that situation...

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

heh someone outted their dupe name.

Veronica's out here hiding whole islands from her family but wants everybody to be transparent with her.

Cant wait for the Callista talk with Kane.

Yes, I hid who your father was from you for no reason whatsoever, and yes I faked my death, and yes I put you in a life-threatening situation but I did it all for you, sweety. Forgive me?

 

[YuNobi1]

Yep, in my mind if MC(Dom) I'd be putting a very quick end to the deceit and bullshit... or suffer the wrath of "the chosen one" via alliances and other chess board play. But, again, that's the redneck in me thinking in the space of if I were Kane in this fictional story. The company board would have me CEO within a month, tops.

I mean, we're only on Day 8 since Elena met Kane in prison. We got PLENTY of time to take over in a 1 month time span. Haha.

heh someone outted their dupe name.

Veronica's out here hiding whole islands from her family but wants everybody to be transparent with her.

Cant wait for the Callista talk with Kane.

Yes, I hid who your father was from you for no reason whatsoever, and yes I faked my death, and yes I put you in a life-threatening situation but I did it all for you, sweety. Forgive me?

Yes that does bring up a quandary: if Callista has believed all these years that Cole was truly dead, why was there a need to hide his identity? Perhaps Callista had to keep all possible association with KG a secret from Kane until the Second Gambit, thus talking about a man whom you met, befriended, fell in love, were intimate with, and lost while and because you were a founding executive of KG, is not something you divulge. The only reason Olivia/Kane/Seth even know that Callista is hiding "father" is their knowledge of anatomy. I'm thinking her death was to fool the Board, because Alexander would certainly have seen through it, and Callista couldn't risk letting Kane slip the truth in a moment of "duress" (and who knows, maybe he talks in his sleep). As for the Gambit, I've stated before that she clearly has no choice in the matter. Her confession to Elena shows that every one of her actions since Kane's conception has been to protect his life, or in tangent to that goal.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I completely agree but unfortunately, as you say, we are not the MC and he surely isn't thinking like us lol. What I find interesting (as a little fun-thought) is if we were...but only knew exactly what Kane knew...would we still say we'd do x/y/z with our personalities or would we too think..woahh...hang on a min...maybe take a step back and evaluate our situation.

Easy to say what we'd be like and do...when 1. We have more info than our hapless hero does and 2. Not in that situation...

I would've been even snarkier with Elena. "If you're not going to tell me about my father, why the fuck did you bring me here and tell me that story?"
ditto with the nadia situation " why am I meeting people who just want to see me. wtf are you hiding from me? I'm getting sick of all this secrecy!"

 

[Maviarab]

heh someone outted their dupe name.

Veronica's out here hiding whole islands from her family but wants everybody to be transparent with her.

Cant wait for the Callista talk with Kane.

Yes, I hid who your father was from you for no reason whatsoever, and yes I faked my death, and yes I put you in a life-threatening situation but I did it all for you, sweety. Forgive me?

Just wait until Kane's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate arrives!

 

[Sancho1969]

I completely agree but unfortunately, as you say, we are not the MC and he surely isn't thinking like us lol. What I find interesting (as a little fun-thought) is if we were...but only knew exactly what Kane knew...would we still say we'd do x/y/z with our personalities or would we too think..woahh...hang on a min...maybe take a step back and evaluate our situation.

Easy to say what we'd be like and do...when 1. We have more info than our hapless hero does and 2. Not in that situation...

Pfft... I'd see through most of the BS but maybe not all at first.

I'd be roping in those other family factions a well (along my pursuit as "CEO"). I'd certainly be a force to be reckoned with once I realized from what we do know that by blood-relation(s) we carry some significant weight. But yes, it's still a bit fun to debate these details... and what proves a story to contain a certain amount of quality to be debated to begin with.

I'll be the first to admit that the overall subjects in this VN aren't really my wheelhouse, but I'm intrigued regardless. Plus it's fun to poke holes and make theories on a yet to be finished storyline.

 

[Sancho1969]

I mean, we're only on Day 8 since Elena met Kane in prison. We got PLENTY of time to take over in a 1 month time span. Haha.

Indeed... but obtaining the goal by end of a month certainly includes the work done at the beginning... and I'd certainly already be starting the process. But again, this Kane might very well be biding time to drop an alpha bomb at a more calculated moment. I doubt I'd have much more patience at this point though... I'd be all in on my personal plan. Considering what we know by Day8 as DomKane and who all we've stuck our dick in... it is time to proceed.

 

[Maviarab]

I'd be all in on my personal plan

Me too! My own personal Arabian harem of hot leggy babes is waiting for me. Really no time to waste

 

[Sancho1969]

it is time to proceed.

Really no time to waste

In my head all I hear is: "Let's Go!!!!!!!" (insert silly meme here)

 

[Sancho1969]

Astrid: Yvette (No idea when born in relation to the others)

Surely she's the youngest of the bunch, ain't it? I mean, who knows but I can't wrap my brain around the alternative tbh.

 

[YuNobi1]

I would've been even snarkier with Elena. "If you're not going to tell me about my father, why the fuck did you bring me here and tell me that story?"
ditto with the nadia situation " why am I meeting people who just want to see me. wtf are you hiding from me? I'm getting sick of all this secrecy!"

Same

Indeed... but obtaining the goal by end of a month certainly includes the work done at the beginning... and I'd certainly already be starting the process. But again, this Kane might very well be biding time to drop an alpha bomb at a more calculated moment. I doubt I'd have much more patience at this point though... I'd be all in on my personal plan. Considering what we know by Day8 as DomKane and who all we've stuck our dick in... it is time to proceed.

If you play "reach out and take it" DomKane, he is starting to flex his muscles in Ep. 6-8, though since he has literally never had anything near this level of power in his life (telling others what to do), he is like someone wading cautiously into a mirky pond, confidently getting deeper, but careful not to step into a drop-off. Part of our frustration as players is years are passing, whereas for Kane, it's only his 3rd day of power. We can only hope that Tess can make up for it in the Gameshow, and story-wise, this will give Kane a needed surge in confidence (especially since this should elevate him to the incredibly hard to reach K10).

 

[phoenix1994]

At a minimum...that we know...four. Possibly 5 because we do not know who the mother of Alessandra or Juliette is. Never mentioned. I suspect the same mother (just my own thoughts) but could be different.

You have: (in birth order, Astrid aside):

Dominique: ??? (Supposedly died when Dominique was young)
Veronica: Yvette
Olivia: Elena (2 days after Veronica)
Juliette: ???
Alessandra: ???

Astrid: Yvette (No idea when born in relation to the others)
Luke: Callista (suspect died in the womb due to an accident. This is theory though)

Wouldn't this also make the number of board seats at some point more than 7?

on this note, how were the board seats handled when the company had started?
(Assuming 7 board seats was something that was kept common from the start (tiebreaker point))
Seat 1: Alexander (maybe, or he was considered above seats)
Seat 2: Callista
Seat 3: Elena
Seat 4: Cole
Seat 5: Yvette
Seat 6: ?
Seat 7: ?


Also does anyone remember why did we lose the wristband?

 

[Sancho1969]

If you play "reach out and take it" DomKane, he is starting to flex his muscles in Ep. 6-8, though since he has literally never had anything near this level of power in his life (telling others what to do), he is like someone wading cautiously into a mirky pond, confidently getting deeper, but careful not to step into a drop-off. Part of our frustration as players is years are passing, whereas for Kane, it's only his 3rd day of power. We can only hope that Tess can make up for it in the Gameshow, and story-wise, this will give Kane a needed surge in confidence (especially since this should elevate him to the incredibly hard to reach K10).

Understood... this is my "wimp" theory of Kane (the initial points in your post)... but I offered an alternative of "admirably biding time for the strike" Kane as well. It's certainly debatable. Again, it's kinda fun to tinker around how different personalities would operate here. But tbh, if playing DomKane and knowing what we know only on that playthrough versus Olivia at the same moment... she's way more alpha in her thoughts than Kane's thoughts. His "caution" appears to me as weakness considering what he knows by now. Again, debatable... just my thoughts.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Wouldn't this also make the number of board seats at some point more than 7?

on this note, how were the board seats handled when the company had started?
(Assuming 7 board seats was something that was kept common from the start (tiebreaker point))
Seat 1: Alexander (maybe, or he was considered above seats)
Seat 2: Callista
Seat 3: Elena
Seat 4: Cole
Seat 5: Yvette
Seat 6: ?
Seat 7: ?


Also does anyone remember why did we lose the wristband?

Alexander ain't on the board. This update talks about how the board can remove him with unanimous consent.

 

[Sancho1969]

Also does anyone remember why did we lose the wristband?

Do you mean the data bracelet? I don't think it's been mentioned in-game since the ending of Ep4:

I could obviously be mistaken... just going by memory and I've had many many whiskeys since Ep4

 

[BurgRoyce]

But wasn't the bracelet handled to Nadia in episode 6? When she was in the submarine.

 

[Maviarab]

Surely she's the youngest of the bunch, ain't it? I mean, who knows but I can't wrap my brain around the alternative tbh.

Well..think about this now. if she is the youngest (I don't think she is), that would mean he slept with and had a child with Yvette...again...after Alessa and Julie....

Wouldn't this also make the number of board seats at some point more than 7?

on this note, how were the board seats handled when the company had started?
(Assuming 7 board seats was something that was kept common from the start (tiebreaker point))
Seat 1: Alexander (maybe, or he was considered above seats)
Seat 2: Callista
Seat 3: Elena
Seat 4: Cole
Seat 5: Yvette
Seat 6: ?
Seat 7: ?


Also does anyone remember why did we lose the wristband?

No. While in Ep8 the conversation makes it seem that Alexander was a board member, he probably wasnt. As Miles said, he was over the board, top of the food chain. However, he set up the board of directors as a way for things to be resolved. Now think back to all that has happened.

There is an empy seat. It can't be alexander....or why would Elena need to give her seat up hmmm? If you equate this to a real company (large conglom)...the overall 'owner' and head is often not actually on the board of directors but has effectively, or assumes a position. In those terms, with a unanimous board vote, they can and have ousted the overall chairman/owner of a company.

As for the bracelet, it was collected (by persons unknown) and given to Otto who handed it to Nadia (remember the scene with Cynthia's two masked 'advisors/bodyguards/associates').

 

[Sancho1969]

But wasn't the bracelet handled to Nadia in episode 6? When she was in the submarine.

I skimmed the dialogue extremely fast but didn't catch anything regarding it in Ep6... I'll take a bigger dive in it (no pun intended ).

 

[BurgRoyce]

I skimmed the dialogue extremely fast but didn't catch anything regarding it in Ep6... I'll take a bigger dive in it (no pun intended ).

Maybe it was episode 7?... Memory fails

 

[Maviarab]

Maybe it was episode 7?... Memory fails

I skimmed the dialogue extremely fast but didn't catch anything regarding it in Ep6... I'll take a bigger dive in it (no pun intended ).

Ep.7

scene e7nroom20 with mediumdissolve
    otto "This should help you."
    otto "Just read over everything. You'll know what to do."
    scene e7nroom21 with mediumdissolve
    nad "Sure. I'll look over it. Is this my mom's desire or..."
    otto "...both. It's important. Take it seriously."
    scene e7nroom22 with mediumdissolve
    nad "I'm serious! And don't forget...none of you could do in over twenty years what I did within hours of getting here!"
    otto "That's fair Nadia, and I apologize. You've done a lot to help the family."
    nad "Good. Anything else?"
    scene e7nroom23 with mediumdissolve
    otto "Our business here is concluded. We'll leave you to your morning."