VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[MilesEdgeworth]

The big problem with this particular type of storytelling (the 'Mystery Box' technique, fuck you Jar-Jar Abrams) is that the fan theories usually turn out to be much more coherent and interesting than what the writer eventually presents (or sometimes parts of the story are just dropped altogether), and that just kills your investment in the story. In the end, you're frustrated and eventually become resentful of the IP (I know I have with Star Wars).

So far we've had a lot of mystery boxes in KG, some of them were obvious from the moment they were set up (Olivia's parentage, Red Mask's identity (I fucking told you guys!)) and we got fairly satisfactory revelation scenes. However, plenty more mysteries remain (7th Board member, who's Luke, the Braclet thing etc) and I hope we will get good answers to those in the next few updates, because these mystery boxes can and will outstay their welcome by the end of, say, ep.10. By that time we should be in the Endgame, actively working towards the goal of our choice, not childishly fumbling in the dark looking for answers.

It's only a problem if Tess has her very own Rian Johnson writing behind her to fuck her writing up. So far her reveals have been good and coherent it's when we start running into dead ends that they'll become problematic.

Wut? it's not "people", just Nadia. And, btw, maybe it's not even a bribe, Vernoica says they've made an agreement... so who knows.

Cynthia is keeping quiet for other reasons, most likely... And no, I don't think it's fear for Kane's safetly, au contraire, I think Cynthia also wants Kane to succeed so a dekock rises to power... remeber, she knows Cole is alive and is about to rescue him, so having Kane rise up within the KG, and then reveal what they did to his dad would basically turn him to their side... it's probably more of a strategic move.

People, person bad word choice changes nothing about what I said. Which is that few people know of the island's existence and 2 (maybe 3 depending on how far along Nadia got), know of its true intention.

Cynthia's only going along with that current plan now because she has no choice since it was sprung on her. I don't imagine she planned to send someone untrained into a gambit on the one-in-a-million chance that he's dominant enough to rise to the top and that he'll believe actual strangers when they reveal what happened. If she's not keeping Callista at arm's length, then she's a big dummy especially since it's obvious ole girls playing both sides. If Kane is on the sub-path, Cynthia's definitely more worried about trying to keep him safe.

 

[Bulletproof 2301]

Anyone know when is the Android version coming?

 

[Maviarab]

Anyone know when is the Android version coming?

 

[YuNobi1]

Anyone know when is the Android version coming?

Just surrender and realize Android will always be broken with this game, and do it on PC... I had to do that with Ep. 5.

 

[Fred52]

someone pls explain how to use sanchomod on this game

 

[Maviarab]

someone pls explain how to use sanchomod on this game

Open the SanchoMod zip...copy everything into the 'game' folder (located where the Karlsson's Gambit exe is). Done. (note there is a diff version mod for Ep1-7 and Ep8).

 

[sgenter]

What is the highest K rating the MC can achieve playing up to and through Episode 8?

Max I've been able to achieve is K7 so far for 6 play through's.

 

[Maviarab]

What is the highest K rating the MC can achieve playing up to and through Episode 8?

Max I've been able to achieve is K7 so far for 6 play through's.

K9.

There are two ways to obtain K9 at the end of Ep.7 Go back a few pages and you will see both ways listed or follow the walkthrough carefully. You can Pm me if you wish and I'll give you detailed explanations of both variations.

 

[Fred52]

Open the SanchoMod zip...copy everything into the 'game' folder (located where the Karlsson's Gambit exe is). Done. (note there is a diff version mod for Ep1-7 and Ep8).

I keep getting the error that the compressed zip file is invalid or corrupted when i replace the original script file

 

[Maviarab]

I keep getting the error that the compressed zip file is invalid or corrupted when i replace the original script file

That's a corrupted/bad download. Redownload the mod zip, ideally through a download manager (i dislike using the browser to dl stuff other than a pdf or image) or use a diff server (so if you used mega, try the workupload link instead).

As an aside, another tip (you may not need)...if using anything other than 7zip, stop and go and dl it. Will give you far less issues than any other zip/archive program.

 

[Fred52]

That's a corrupted/bad download. Redownload the mod zip, ideally through a download manager (i dislike using the browser to dl stuff other than a pdf or image) or use a diff server (so if you used mega, try the workupload link instead).

As an aside, another tip (you may not need)...if using anything other than 7zip, stop and go and dl it. Will give you far less issues than any other zip/archive program.

I retried the download and also used 7zip but im still getting the same error message I even extracted the zip file and tried to copy the mod files to the game file

 

[jaxofalltrades]

You had conjectured that Callista gave the DeKocks a hostage, and Board Member #7 has been absent the entire game, but in a way that Yvette is determined to keep an absolute secret, so he/she is clearly not "just busy". During this vulnerable time for the company (as described in the Phoebe-Yvette-Elena scene), this is the worst time for a key decision-maker to be absent, and to allow your enemies inside one of your secret facilities (and the most important one for determining your company's future), yet both cases are the status.

Why? What would possess the Board to invite DS at this time? DS leveraging a hostage would certainly make sense, and KG counters with Kane as their own hostage (as Cole is secret even from the Board), thus DS limits their maneuvers to not jeopardize Kane. Cole, Callista, and Astrid cannot be Board Member #7 as their living status are official secrets from other Board members, neither is any of Phoebe's family, nor the DeKocks, else they would have been identified at the Welcome Party, so #7 must be someone we haven't met yet. A kidnapped Board member is definitely not something Yvette will openly admit has occurred, even in front of the perpetrators (look to Cynthia for example: who never accuses KG of holding Cole prisoner, even though she knows they are, instead arranges to locate/rescue him without their knowledge). It’s possible, one of the motivators for Callista faking her death was to be able to pull off the kidnapping. ... perhaps #7 is even Callista's/Cynthia's source for discovering that Cole was alive and still imprisoned (Nadia should have stumbled across his location before realizing he was alive if hacking was the information source).

Based on the Veronica+Alexander flashback scene, I was under the impression the board does know that Astrid is alive. They just don't know where she is since Veronica wanted to ensure her safety from Alexander. If so, can't rule her out for #7 yet.

 

[Maviarab]

Based on the Veronica+Alexander flashback scene, I was under the impression the board does know that Astrid is alive. They just don't know where she is since Veronica wanted to ensure her safety from Alexander. If so, can't rule her out for #7 yet.

You realise that flashback scene was a good few years ago right? Katsumi barely a young teenager in that scene from the size of her...however I'll concede we know no ones age...Veronica and Olivia however are about 24 years old....so present day kitty is obviously younger then she looks.

Since Astrid was introduced I've thought she was the 7th member, however I'm leaning more away from that theory myself now (but still open to it).

Edited for grammar.

 

[Maviarab]

I retried the download and also used 7zip but im still getting the same error message I even extracted the zip file and tried to copy the mod files to the game file

Try downloading it from this post then. I know it works, it's mine. If you still get a corrupt error I'd just try ignoring it then.

 

[jaxofalltrades]

You realise that flashback scene was a good few years ago right? Katsumi barely a young teenager in that scene from the size of her...however I'll concede we know no ones age...Ceronica and Olivia however are about 24 years old....so present day kitty is obviously younger then she looks.

Since Astrid was introduced I've thought she was the 7th member, however I'm leaning more away from that theory myself now (but still open to it).


I'm probably having a moment, but who is DS?

Honestly, Katsumi and Veronica looked the same to me as they do presently so I couldn't say how long ago the flashback was. I'll have to replay but agree Astrid could very well not be the 7th member. I mainly just wanted to point out the board seems to know she's alive somewhere so she can't be ruled out completely yet.

DS=Dekock Syndicate

 

[Maviarab]

Honestly, Katsumi and Veronica looked the same to me as they do presently so I couldn't say how long ago the flashback was. I'll have to replay but agree Astrid could very well not be the 7th member. I mainly just wanted to point out the board seems to know she's alive somewhere so she can't be ruled out completely yet.

DS=Dekock Syndicate

Some of the board do...however, what points to her being the 7th for my mind is, contrary to Yu's comments, at the moment, there are no board votes required for anything. Not that would require all 7 at least. The Gambit needs concluding. Now, not sure if you have picked up on this or not, but Astrid went into Cryo right after Alexander's death was 'made public'...and she comes out six days after Kane and Olivia enter the facility...coincidence? If she is the seventh member, ideal time to cryo away isn't it?

However, given what we actually know now in Ep8...I find it being her more unlikely in all honresty....can't squirrel away on a secret Island and still cast a board vote...can you? Especially when the overall owner of the company thinks you're dead....so it can't be her. I'm now leaning more to either another unknown sister or Alessa's and Julies mother (as I believe they have the same mother).

Well you don't 'see' Katsumi in the flashback...you do however notice how small she is..almost childlike size...and there is a subtle ageing diff in Veronica's model. Tess is very good at ageing/deaging her models for scenes.

Yeah figured it out as soon as edited my post lol..so re-edited it again haha.

 

[Jacowboy]

I think the 7th board member is one of Alexander's sisters... they were mentioned for a reason, I suppose.

Also question... where does the game take place at the start? Is it America? The map and "history lesson" makes it seem like only parts of Africa are still habitable, but I'm not sure if I missed something or if it was just never mentioned.

 

[Maviarab]

I think the 7th board member is one of Alexander's sisters... they were mentioned for a reason, I suppose.

Also question... where does the game take place at the start? Is it America? The map and "history lesson" makes it seem like only parts of Africa are still habitable, but I'm not sure if I missed something or if it was just never mentioned.

You've missed a lot. Why I say...read things...carefully.

1. Sisters left him. We do not know when...or more importantly...why. But like many other important women in his life, they abandoned him. Neither Klara or Karin are on the board.

2. Not explicitly stated, but assuming the Karlsson's plane is like any other large domestic boeing (it's based firmly in the real world...just say 30 years later than our present time)...then Kane has a '6 hour' flight....it's stated in both dom/sub paths. I'll let you work out where 6 hours from 2 hours away from the South West Tip of Africa is (you're even told the old name of the island if you wish to do some travel calculations).

3. People live all over the world...if you were paying attention (again)...it is stated that the only 'large population centers' are in southern Africa. Key wording..'large population'...not entire population. So back to point 2, can't be in New Paris, as that would not be a 6 hour flight to the island.

 

[Jacowboy]

You've missed a lot. Why I say...read things...carefully.

1. Sisters left him. We do not know when...or more importly...why. But like many other important women in his life, they abandoned him. neither Klara or Karin are on the board.

2. Not explicitly stated, but assuming the Karlsson's plane is like any other large domestic boeing (it's based firmly in the real world...just say 30 years later than our present time)...then Kane has a '6 hour' flight....it's stated in both dom/sub paths. I'll let you work out where 6 hours from 2 hours away from the South West Tip of Africa is (you're even told the old name of the island if you wish to do some travel calculations).

3. People live all over the world...if you were paying attention (again)...it is stated that the only 'large population centers' are in southern Africa. Key wording..large population'...not entire population.

holy shit, chill down jackass.... oh my god, I didn't memorize every single bit of dialogue on my first PT, sue me!

 

[Maviarab]

holy shit, chill down jackass.... oh my god, I didn't memorize every single bit of dialogue on my first PT, sue me!

Well you can call me names all you like if it makes you feel better, but this a complex story (unlike 99% of the crap here) that requires careful reading and this is about the 7th time you have made incorrect statements and assumptions for things that are clearly indicated and told to you within the story.

However, I will concede this.

Tess either used the 6 hour flight correctly,
As a throwaway comment (assuming no one like myself would look into that in detail),
She is not very good with flight times (unlikely as she flies often),
Or it was plain bad writing.

I'll leave you to decide which is more likely.

I'll also tell you, from Atlanta, USA (ATL) to Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) is a 15 hour flight, due to the curvature of the earth. You fly over the widest part of the planet. Why from Europe to the States they always fly north first then west as it's the shortest distance. However, despite the map being wrong (that we are shown), if we did take Saint Helena as being correct, then then the stated flight time of 6 hours would be roughly correct (Cape Town to Jamestown), if leaving from South Africa (same as from most places in Europe if went direct). However, see below:

You also have to factor in...Kane and Olivia have been hidden from the Karlsson Group (though it's up for debate whether Alexander knew where they were, even though Veronica could never find them)...so to me, Callista would not have had either of them slap bang in the middle of Karlsson owned territory (or in New Paris)...unless she was thinking it's so obvious they'd never look there. *shrugs*

As for poulation centers...let's say when the shit started to hit the fan...we lost 80% of our population. That still leaves almost 2 billion people....well 2 billion people are not living in what was effectively two and half former countries (Angola, Namibia and half of South Africa) when Africa as a continent barely has 2 billion in total now.

Now, having said all that...to the list.

Edited for grammer, clarity and extrapolation