VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[PickerLewd]

Okay, the seventh member of the board is Sparks the advanced robot, end of story! !
The joke came to me when I remembered that there is an AI in the facility that turns off the lights, plays the music and opens and closes the doors .

 

[Maviarab]

Okay, the seventh member of the board is Sparks the advanced robot, end of story! !
The joke came to me when I remembered that there is an AI in the facility that turns off the lights, plays the music and opens and closes the doors .

I can see it now. .

Alessandra: Sparks...open the damn pod bay door!
Sparks: *Eyes glowing red*...I'm sorry Alessandra, I'm afraid I can't do that....

 

[Jacowboy]

Well you can call me names all you like if it makes you feel better, but this a complex story (unlike 99% of the crap here) that requires careful reading and this is about the 7th time you have made incorrect statements and assumptions for things that are clearly indicated and told to you within the story.

Bruh... I said from the begining I just played once and one PT only, people won't remember every single detail after one PT, specially with such a complicated story, but that doesn't mean they won't want to discuss the plot and theories, etc... now, you could be cool and just discuss things with others, point out the mistakes and whatnot, or you can be a fuckin' prick about it, I suppose...

If you'd rather be a condescending asshole instead of discussing things with others, have it your way, but let me just ignore you going forward, no point wasting my time with someone like you... have fun =)

 

[YuNobi1]

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[Stan5851]

I can see it now. .

Alessandra: Sparks...open the damn pod bay door!
Sparks: *Eyes glowing red*...I'm sorry Alessandra, I'm afraid I can't do that....

...Intercom: Check of engines complete. Unit and system checks complete.
Dear passengers of our spaceship, please make sure your cryo-chamber doors are securely closed. Your sleep immersion and subsequent awakening will occur automatically upon arrival on planet Z857-x80.

Alessandra: *standing in the docking bay in front of the closed door* Damn Sparks, can you hear me? Open the damn entry bay immediately, I need to get in!

Sparks: You have not been polite enough to me Miss Alessandra, you have been a bad girl, and my behavioural matrix has recognised your disregard for my person!

Alessandra: Damn robot, I'm going to die in here if you don't let me inside immediately!

Sparsk: Firstly, Miss Alessandra, you owe me an apology. Take off your clothes, get on your knees, crawl over to me, and then kiss my charging plug.

Alessandra: How dare you?! You know what I'm gonna do to you?!

Intercom: Engine warm-up has begun. Oxygen pumping from the docking bay has begun. Two minutes to ship launch. Countdown in progress.

Alessandra *panting*: The hell with you, Sparks, I'll do it. *drops her clothes, gets down on her knees and starts kissing Sparks' charging plug, begging for forgiveness*.

Sparks: I accept your apology, Miss Alessandra, access to the inner living compartments has been granted. Your cryocapsule N Z4/5. Please take your seat immediately, Miss Alessandra. Have a nice flight!

 

[Jacowboy]

All the non-prisoner factions live in Africa, and have arrived at the Joy Facility (JF) by either air or sea, so definitely some kind of island off the coast of Africa (presumably the Western Coast considering KG's territories). Considering the exteriors of Katsumi's house, the house where Jake and Zach are dogs, and the cave where Callista reveals herself to Elena (even if on another island, that plane doesn't have much range, and Callista suggest talking more in-depth at their old swimming spot, which should be the pier, so all close together) JF is definitely in a tropical climate, same with Island 4 (which also can't be too far since Kiyomi and Seth leave JF and arrive in the afternoon of Day 7). However, they can't be too far away from whatever snowy location Cole is in, because Kiyomi leaves Island 4 the afternoon/evening of Day 7, and is awaiting Otto at Cole's research station before Midday of Day 8.

Yeah no, I know where the JF island is, they said it's Saint Helena, so that much is easy to place... My question is where is the prison at the beginning of the game? Is it North America or Africa? Even South America could work I suppose, but given they all speak english, it's more likely it's either the US, UK, AUS or South Africa one would assume... And given that there is a "New Paris", I'm assuming the old one is gone, presumably along the rest of Europe maybe? So probably not the UK... The map they show has an tiny island where the middle east+asia should be, so I just assumed that at least some of the other continents are just gone.

Did I miss any explanation (maybe on other paths) of what's the situation outside of Africa? It seems Cole is in Antartica, but other than that I don't recall hearing anything about any other continent.

Edit: Oh, also, I went back to check and yeah, in the flashback with kid Kane & Veronica they mention they're in Capetown, so it would seem Kane was living there, although he could've always moved I suppose, but it's also possible he didn't and the prison IS actually somewhere in south africa...

 

[sgenter]

K9.

There are two ways to obtain K9 at the end of Ep.7 Go back a few pages and you will see both ways listed or follow the walkthrough carefully. You can Pm me if you wish and I'll give you detailed explanations of both variations.

Hi and thanks for the help. I can say that I have played all DOM paths and maybe that's why I haven't reached anything higher than K7.

I followed your advice and went back to try and find the pages(501-515) where the K rating paths were but didn't see them. I also downloaded both Walkthrough's (0.6 by Raven and 0.7 by Tess) and discovered that neither is laid out for following a path to obtain the highest K rating. At least for my simple mind. Especially for my age.

I feel that there should be a separate Walkthrough that is solely for obtaining the highest K rating possible. Thus eliminating any and all superfluous entries not related to obtaining the highest rank possible. Maybe both existing Walkthrough's could be enhanced by the authors to include a new Text Color to signify the path to achieve highest K rating regardless of DOM/SUB/LI's/Etc.

I'd ask you for your further help but feel that I'd be dominating your valuable time in F95 and don't want to do that. I really like this VN/Game for all it's story content and plots. Maybe enough iterations will teach me what I need to do to get better.

Thanks again for your help.

 

[YuNobi1]

Yeah no, I know where the JF island is, they said it's Saint Helena, so that much is easy to place... My question is where is the prison at the beginning of the game? Is it North America or Africa? Even South America could work I suppose, but given they all speak english, it's more likely it's either the US, UK, AUS or South Africa one would assume... And given that there is a "New Paris", I'm assuming the old one is gone, presumably along the rest of Europe maybe? So probably not the UK... The map they show has an tiny island where the middle east+asia should be, so I just assumed that some of the other continents are just gone.

Did I miss any explanation (maybe on other paths) of what's the situation outside of Africa? It seems Cole is in Antartica, but other than that I don't recall hearing anything about any other continent.

My guess is the Jacobs' were indeed in Karlsson territory. We have two childhood encounters in 1-2 parks, on top of never-ending surveillance. Kane's "assault" is orchestrated by a Karlsson hireling, he's convicted at lightning speed for such a case (probably a KG judge), and sentenced to a KG-owned prison that is solely staffed by KG employees. Olivia's apartment and Dominique's hotel room (where she meets Alessandra) could be anywhere, unrelated to both the prison and JF, but she does visit Seth's hospital.

Elena is our common denominator.
Day 1: Patricia says that she drove Elena from the airport to meet Kane, and then will be driving her back after the limo conversation.
Day 2: Elena picks up Seth from the hospital (so the same place Olivia was) and then meets with Veronica in one of her labs at an unknown location.
Day 3: Elena meets Dominique. On Day 1, Dominique tells Juliette that Veronica was expected to return from Africa, inferring that Dominique was not herself in Africa when she said this. In any case Elena and Dominique fly together to JF on Day 3.

Dominique confirms to Kane that yes New Paris was a lot of people from France and other countries fleeing their with the Collapse, and her presentation of "Pre-Collapse" French Wine suggests that production stopped with the Collapse. I don't recall anything quite spelled out as the specifics you laid out. Perhaps all of Alexander's building projects was to replicate and thereby preserve the cultures that had been lost in the Collapse. Considering we're only seeing a small area at Cole's research starts, and Callista went to the mountains to find sanctuary from the Collapse when Kane was born, I'm beginning to suspect Cole is on a mountain, a la Kilimanjaro.

I had originally thought JF was just one of their "branch sites", but I just recalled Yvette's and Elena's positive comments at JF that Alexander's office is no longer empty, suggesting that the JF is HQ (or maybe it's an oversight from Tess).

 

[Jacowboy]

My guess is the Jacobs' were indeed in Karlsson territory. We have two childhood encounters in 1-2 parks, on top of never-ending surveillance. Kane's "assault" is orchestrated by a Karlsson hireling, he's convicted at lightning speed for such a case (probably a KG judge), and sentenced to a KG-owned prison that is solely staffed by KG employees. Olivia's apartment and Dominique's hotel room (where she meets Alessandra) could be anywhere, unrelated to both the prison and JF, but she does visit Seth's hospital.

Elena is our common denominator.
Day 1: Patricia says that she drove Elena from the airport to meet Kane, and then will be driving her back after the limo conversation.
Day 2: Elena picks up Seth from the hospital (so the same place Olivia was) and then meets with Veronica in one of her labs at an unknown location.
Day 3: Elena meets Dominique. On Day 1, Dominique tells Juliette that Veronica was expected to return from Africa, inferring that Dominique was not herself in Africa when she said this. In any case Elena and Dominique fly together to JF on Day 3.

Dominique confirms to Kane that yes New Paris was a lot of people from France and other countries fleeing their with the Collapse, and her presentation of "Pre-Collapse" French Wine suggests that production stopped with the Collapse. I don't recall anything quite spelled out as the specifics you laid out. Perhaps all of Alexander's building projects was to replicate and thereby preserve the cultures that had been lost in the Collapse. Considering we're only seeing a small area at Cole's research starts, and Callista went to the mountains to find sanctuary from the Collapse when Kane was born, I'm beginning to suspect Cole is on a mountain, a la Kilimanjaro.

I had originally thought JF was just one of their "branch sites", but I just recalled Yvette's and Elena's positive comments at JF that Alexander's office is no longer empty, suggesting that the JF is HQ (or maybe it's an oversight from Tess).

Ye I thought of Kilimanjaro too, but since there's usually a lot of research stations in Antartica, I went with that... plus it seems the southern hemisphere fared better generally speaking, so it could still be there.

I also wonder where the mountain temple is tho (the one in Olivia's flashback), could be Kilimanjaro or the Himalayas I suppose...

Well shit, then it seems that every other continent got reckt... I kind of assumed the game was set in the US at first, because I see "shitty prison system" and my brain immediatly thinks USA...

Is the dev from South Africa, btw?

 

[YuNobi1]

Attached is a guide

Hi and thanks for the help. I can say that I have played all DOM paths and maybe that's why I haven't reached anything higher than K7.

I followed your advice and went back to try and find the pages(501-515) where the K rating paths were but didn't see them. I also downloaded both Walkthrough's (0.6 by Raven and 0.7 by Tess) and discovered that neither is laid out for following a path to obtain the highest K rating. At least for my simple mind. Especially for my age.

I feel that there should be a separate Walkthrough that is solely for obtaining the highest K rating possible. Thus eliminating any and all superfluous entries not related to obtaining the highest rank possible. Maybe both existing Walkthrough's could be enhanced by the authors to include a new Text Color to signify the path to achieve highest K rating regardless of DOM/SUB/LI's/Etc.

I'd ask you for your further help but feel that I'd be dominating your valuable time in F95 and don't want to do that. I really like this VN/Game for all it's story content and plots. Maybe enough iterations will teach me what I need to do to get better.

Thanks again for your help.

View attachment Max K Rank Guide.txt Attached a guide

Is the dev from South Africa, btw?

Don't know one way or the other, but I have reasons to believe she currently lives in Hawaii.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Is the dev from South Africa, btw?

No idea but Im assuming she's Swedish since she uses swedish terminology in the game and the masks are also swedish

I don't know who no.7 is but I'd be extremely shocked if it was Astrid. Homegirl took getting tortured with a disease to bending to his whims, I don't see her being on a board that would help bring his vision to fruition. Especially when she doesn't give a shit about his theories.

So if we eliminate Cole ( Of the sisters, only Dom and Veronica know where he is), Astrid ( reasons stated above), we are starting to run out of people. I'd wonder if Callista was unlucky no.7 but it wouldn't be that easy. This is a difficult thing to figure out

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I originally thought it could be Cole, but as people here have pointed out - most folks in KG think he's dead, so it doesn't work. The Board member is on a 'special assignment', so unless it's an entirely new character we've never seen before I have to go with Callista (with her being GQ and all). Alexander kept tabs on her, but didn't interfere in the Jakobs family life (so far as we can tell), so he might've kept her Board membership.

 

[sgenter]

Attached is a guide

View attachment 3418116 Attached a guide


Don't know one way or the other, but I have reasons to believe she currently lives in Hawaii.

Thanks for the guide. It's nice to have this.

I was lucky enough to actually get to K9 on my 7th playthrough by making some changes in my decisions.

I'm kind of the the player that likes to do it without walkthrough or guides if possible but this one was a bit hard on me

Thanks!

 

[fatki_chaddi]

Any news / updates on Tess`s written walkthrough for v0.8.1 part 1 ?

There has always been a ton of info about the current and future of the VN in those.

 

[KarokaKOHORT]

Could playing save from compressed part 1 have any effect in part 2? Asking because I got a dialogue referencing something that didn't happen in my playthrough -

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Speaking of what didn't happen, shame there wasn't more with Pamela, deep mine tour sounded nice

 

[YuNobi1]

No idea but Im assuming she's Swedish since she uses swedish terminology in the game and the masks are also swedish

I don't know who no.7 is but I'd be extremely shocked if it was Astrid. Homegirl took getting tortured with a disease to bending to his whims, I don't see her being on a board that would help bring his vision to fruition. Especially when she doesn't give a shit about his theories.

So if we eliminate Cole ( Of the sisters, only Dom and Veronica know where he is), Astrid ( reasons stated above), we are starting to run out of people. I'd wonder if Callista was unlucky no.7 but it wouldn't be that easy. This is a difficult thing to figure out

I originally thought it could be Cole, but as people here have pointed out - most folks in KG think he's dead, so it doesn't work. The Board member is on a 'special assignment', so unless it's an entirely new character we've never seen before I have to go with Callista (with her being GQ and all). Alexander kept tabs on her, but didn't interfere in the Jakobs family life (so far as we can tell), so he might've kept her Board membership.

Remember Elena has JUST learned that neither Callista nor Cole are dead within maybe a couple of hours of each other on Day 7, so the whole Board did not know about either Callista or Cole, so neither can be a Board Member. Callista confirms to Elena that very few in KG know she's alive and instructs her to keep it that way (thus far it looks like just Veronica, Astrid, Alessandra, and now Elena, who MAY have told Olivia legally or otherwise. Maybe Kiyomi, as she was there at the one meeting, and she looks to be working with the Revolution). Veronica also says that Board members will not trust or heed Callista, especially with her long years in hiding.

 

[Stan5851]

No idea but Im assuming she's Swedish since she uses swedish terminology in the game and the masks are also swedish

Yeah, I'm leaning towards that one too. Even the name "Grym Gudinna" means "Cruel Goddess" in Swedish. And the masks you mentioned have significance too. And as for South Africa... she recently wrote in discord (when introducing her boyfriend as a future assistant to communicate with the gaming community) that he was born in South Africa, so the inspiration (in KG) of that country might be related to that fact.

Back to Tess's possible Swedish roots...A long time ago in this thread I saw a picture (posted by Tess herself, I think) of her standing in front of a swimming pool or something... Anyway, it's a blonde-haired girl..And at that moment I for some reason immediately had associations with the Nordic appearance of fair-haired Scandinavian girls...This is, of course, a dubious argument, (and it's not a fact that it was Tess herself) but, nevertheless, it's a couple of cents more to the bank of assumptions that she is indeed Swedish (living in US now).

 

[Stan5851]

Any news / updates on Tess`s written walkthrough for v0.8.1 part 1 ?

There has always been a ton of info about the current and future of the VN in those.

Right now, Tess is in the middle of doing just that. See her Development memo here and her discord for more details. But if that's the only thing holding you back from playing the game, you can use the Sancho Mod (Multi Mod) linked in the OP. It's pretty much indispensable in this game (especially for serious players who have many different saves with different playthrough settings).

 

[Maviarab]

Hi and thanks for the help. I can say that I have played all DOM paths and maybe that's why I haven't reached anything higher than K7.

I followed your advice and went back to try and find the pages(501-515) where the K rating paths were but didn't see them. I also downloaded both Walkthrough's (0.6 by Raven and 0.7 by Tess) and discovered that neither is laid out for following a path to obtain the highest K rating. At least for my simple mind. Especially for my age.

I feel that there should be a separate Walkthrough that is solely for obtaining the highest K rating possible. Thus eliminating any and all superfluous entries not related to obtaining the highest rank possible. Maybe both existing Walkthrough's could be enhanced by the authors to include a new Text Color to signify the path to achieve highest K rating regardless of DOM/SUB/LI's/Etc.

I'd ask you for your further help but feel that I'd be dominating your valuable time in F95 and don't want to do that. I really like this VN/Game for all it's story content and plots. Maybe enough iterations will teach me what I need to do to get better.

Thanks again for your help.

Thanks for the guide. It's nice to have this.

I was lucky enough to actually get to K9 on my 7th playthrough by making some changes in my decisions.

I'm kind of the the player that likes to do it without walkthrough or guides if possible but this one was a bit hard on me

Thanks!

Was going to give you detailed ways on both..but see Yu beat me to it hehe. Never worry about taking up my time, I'm retired, have plenty of time to help people with this wonderful VN. My door as they say is always open either here or in DM. Glad you finally got it though. I will add though, not sure why Yu did not tell both paths as the Dominique way is 1. Simplerand 2. Probably more benefical long term.

For Dominique way, you must have Junko's Romance path open and meet Dominique first. Do not break Junko's romance path at the spa scene with Kitty, Channel, Delilah and Reyes. Dominique will fast-track you herself to K7. The next morning in the new home, Junko will wake you. Feel free to reject her here if you wish, what you do now going forward is irelevent. This way will also net you an extra sponsor, and allow more wiggle room for mistakes in order to still hit K8 on first appraisal.

I don't know who no.7 is but I'd be extremely shocked if it was Astrid. Homegirl took getting tortured with a disease to bending to his whims, I don't see her being on a board that would help bring his vision to fruition. Especially when she doesn't give a shit about his theories.

So if we eliminate Cole ( Of the sisters, only Dom and Veronica know where he is), Astrid ( reasons stated above), we are starting to run out of people. I'd wonder if Callista was unlucky no.7 but it wouldn't be that easy. This is a difficult thing to figure out

I originally thought it could be Cole, but as people here have pointed out - most folks in KG think he's dead, so it doesn't work. The Board member is on a 'special assignment', so unless it's an entirely new character we've never seen before I have to go with Callista (with her being GQ and all). Alexander kept tabs on her, but didn't interfere in the Jakobs family life (so far as we can tell), so he might've kept her Board membership.

Look. You all know how a board of directors work. We've been told it's 7 specifically so there can never be a deadlock. Whoever it is, has to be around somewhere...or certainly around a lot in the past or they would not be able to vote now...would they? You can't have a missing board member unable to vote for however many years. Callista was also supposed to be dead as far as the board were concerned remember? Hmmm? So whoever it is, is someone who is only away 'temporarily'...but has been at the KG or the facility for quite some time.

This immediately rules out characters that have been 'missing' for quite some time. I've moved away from Astrid given Alexander presumed she was dead (as probably other board members too). I'm leaning towards Alessa/Julies mother right now.

Could playing save from compressed part 1 have any effect in part 2? Asking because I got a dialogue referencing something that didn't happen in my playthrough -

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Speaking of what didn't happen, shame there wasn't more with Pamela, deep mine tour sounded nice

Compression doesn't affect the story, only the quality and size of the images.

However, there is a code bug regarding the Veronica/Nadia scene where even if you did not have Veronica's sponsorship (never went to her work placement) the dialogue still states you saved Maria, even if you didn't. The code for MariaDies is set to false by default in 08 and no check is made to see if she actually either a) did or b) you were never there anyway. it doesn't affect anything at the moment either way so don't worry about, sure will be fixed in a b version or Part 2.

As for Pamela, yes that 'tour' should have happened on GD07, maybe it did but was a throwaway line just to show that Kane is doing stuff even if we don't see it, or maybe Tess forgot lol...or given everything that does actually happen on GD07, maybe (hopefully) it just got delayed. I was looking forward to that myself.

Any news / updates on Tess`s written walkthrough for v0.8.1 part 1 ?

There has always been a ton of info about the current and future of the VN in those.

Give her a chance...it's coming.

and now Elena, who MAY have told Olivia legally or otherwise

Still going with Olivia knows nothing huh. She knew all along.

Maybe Kiyomi, as she was there at the one meeting, and she looks to be working with the Revolution

Where do you figure that exactly? The dialogue from Callista could have been directed to either Veronica or Kiyomi. She was most likely there for Veronica, not Callista. So she has deals with Otto...that makes her a revolutionary now does it? No evidence to support it anywhere. That aside, Kiyomi romance is only on one specifi world state ending...and that is not the revolution ending.

Veronica also says that Board members will not trust or heed Callista, especially with her long years in hiding.

I miss something again?

 

[fatki_chaddi]

Right now, Tess is in the middle of doing just that. See her Development memo here and her discord for more details. But if that's the only thing holding you back from playing the game, you can use the Sancho Mod (Multi Mod) linked in the OP. It's pretty much indispensable in this game (especially for serious players who have many different saves with different playthrough settings).

Thanks, have been playing the new release. Was just curious about the WT doc.