I can't remember what it was, but there's an old bug about Kane starting at K4 and going up to K5 the first chance he gets.
I think the dialogue never adjusts and I think you are considered to be in the secret sub path or something .
It's something old from Season 1 that I don't think will be fixed, plus it's almost impossible to do without a guide (start at K4 and jump to K5 on the first try).
Edit: I mean, the system is designed so that if you start on K4, you stay there, or you go down to the depths and play as a sub, or you start on K5/K6 and play as a dom, if you do a mix like a switcher the game goes crazy.
Is it really that bad? Guess I'll see how it goes, don't want to start over, not yet at least. Sure I'm playing with a mod guide, but mostly I'm just making decisions on the fly depending on what the choices are, sometimes looking into the actual walkthrough...
I've already written about it a couple times in this thread, but I think it's worth repeating...The thing is, knowing Tess's own preferences, in the game, in many ways, I see reflections of that. Judging by what you write, you, like me, also prefer the Dom route, so you should definitely understand what I'm about to write..
Whether Olivia's sex scenes with random male slaves on the Dom route are necessary and how much they are demanded by Dom players in general is an open and debatable question. (Personally, scenes like "neutral police" only annoy me, and I passed it only for the sake of getting the “KiyomiDoor” flag).
Having gone through pt2 (so far played only 1 save out of 12 Dom saves), I can say that what I saw made me very happy and even encouraged me. And now I'm waiting for the final version of the game. But the general trend is that KaneDom, having figured out what's what, has become much smarter, stopped slowing down, became much more decisive and assertive. Now we have the hero we wanted from the very beginning.
So now Olivia has definitely fallen into KaneDom orbit, and so far everything is going to the point that he will be the one to make history, and Olivia will be what she should be - a sweet and lovely "sis", obedient to his will...BTW, during my first playthrough of the test version (“Gray” DomKane -30 good pts/7 evil pts + Good SisSub Olivia) I was never given control over her character, which also says a lot.
My comment wasn't about Kane, beyond lamenting that his dom-track cuts you off from so much of Olivia's story.
I find the way Olivia's character is handled generally frustrating: She lies, behaves erratically, and acts outside the player's control at key moments. But she's still a more interesting character than Kane, who, regardless of path, thus far mostly serves as a bland foil to other, more vibrant characters (granted that I've skipped the test build for now).
Given that Olivia's story is (according to the dev in this thread, many moons ago) the reason the game exists, I find the way it's handled pretty odd: That one of the major branch splits (Kane's dom/sub) cuts you off from so much of her story is just poor design, imo, but I've been grumbling about that in this thread since it first came up.
(I sincerely hope that no one is taking real world messages from this story, least of all advice on masculinity, but that's an entirely different discussion.)
I Have a problem with Celeste and Phoebe giving Kane a mansion because later on when Jul and Dom give Kane human chips to bet they say he has no assets which is either a pothole that Tess forgot about or Celeste and Phoebe lied about giving Kane a Mansion
My comment wasn't about Kane, beyond lamenting that his dom-track cuts you off from so much of Olivia's story.
I find the way Olivia's character is handled generally frustrating: She lies, behaves erratically, and acts outside the player's control at key moments. But she's still a more interesting character than Kane, who, regardless of path, thus far mostly serves as a bland foil to other, more vibrant characters (granted that I've skipped the test build for now).
Given that Olivia's story is (according to the dev in this thread, many moons ago) the reason the game exists, I find the way it's handled pretty odd: That one of the major branch splits (Kane's dom/sub) cuts you off from so much of her story is just poor design, imo, but I've been grumbling about that in this thread since it first came up.
It really doesn't though. You just miss all her interaction with the subs and slave program (and you only see those on the SubKane because..well, Kane is a sub). Are you also going to complain SubKane never see's any of the scenes with Olivia on the opposite track hmm? All relevent scenes with Olivia (regardless of whether or not Kane is in them) are fully shown. I think you're making a mountain here and trying to make something fit a narrative that really does not exist.
I Have a problem with Celeste and Phoebe giving Kane a mansion because later on when Jul and Dom give Kane human chips to bet they say he has no assets which is either a pothole that Tess forgot about or Celeste and Phoebe lied about giving Kane a Mansion
At that point...how would any of them know what has just transcribed with Phoebe and Celeste? Plus, they have not actually 'given it' to him yet...iot's a proposal.
It really doesn't though. You just miss all her interaction with the subs and slave program (and you only see those on the SubKane because..well, Kane is a sub). Are you also going to complain SubKane never see's any of the scenes with Olivia on the opposite track hmm? All relevent scenes with Olivia (regardless of whether or not Kane is in them) are fully shown. I think you're making a mountain here and trying to make something fit a narrative that really does not exist.
At that point...how would any of them know what has just transcribed with Phoebe and Celeste? Plus, they have not actually 'given it' to him yet...iot's a proposal.
That screen was fucking hot what Celeste did to her daddy with the spider and the look on his face when she told him that she was the reason he is now confined to a chair
That screen was fucking hot what Celeste did to her daddy with the spider and the look on his face when she told him that she was the reason he is now confined to a chair
Yeah Celeste is definitely not a very good girl and will absolutely requires a good spanking
As for her character, I'm not actually overly fond of her myself...not sure it's her personality, as love some other very twisted sadistic characters, there's just something about her. Her sister, I adore and on the twisted stuff, I even like their mom too a lot...just can't get into Celeste at all for some reason. (ofc I do have all her paths, as I do for all chars).
Yeah Celeste is definitely not a very good girl and will absolutely requires a good spanking
As for her character, I'm not actually overly fond of her myself...not sure it's her personality, as love some other very twisted sadistic characters, there's just something about her. Her sister, I adore and on the twisted stuff, I even like their mom too a lot...just can't get into Celeste at all for some reason. (ofc I do have all her paths, as I do for all chars).
I can't wait for all hell to break loose in the next update when Cole and Calista make a return, I wouldn't be surprised if that is what Tess ends cp8 pt3 on
Imagine finding something odd, or think one element has a poor game design is making a mountain and forcing a narrative... Word of warning to anyone wanting to have a critical opinion, to share it you need to get through the dreaded white knight XD
My comment wasn't about Kane, beyond lamenting that his dom-track cuts you off from so much of Olivia's story.
I find the way Olivia's character is handled generally frustrating: She lies, behaves erratically, and acts outside the player's control at key moments.
You probably have a different Olivia than I do. My Olivia (of my Dom saves) doesn't lie to me, cares about her family and loves Kane...Yes, she may be hiding something, but there are reasons for that...But her intentions are not against KaneDom or Seth. I'm among those players who believe the “agent Olivia” theory is very real and valid, and our sweet little "sis" really does know a lot more than she's showing, which is confirmed in the game.But Olivia and her actions are a topic for a separate conversation, so I'll end it there for now.
But she's still a more interesting character than Kane, who, regardless of path, thus far mostly serves as a bland foil to other, more vibrant characters (granted that I've skipped the test build for now).
Given that Olivia's story is (according to the dev in this thread, many moons ago) the reason the game exists, I find the way it's handled pretty odd: That one of the major branch splits (Kane's dom/sub) cuts you off from so much of her story is just poor design, imo, but I've been grumbling about that in this thread since it first came up.
This is the first time I've heard that Olivia's story is the reason the game exists. Tess has created a complex and multifaceted narrative where both Olivia and Kane have the freedom to choose who to be, yet Kane remains the main MC, and Olivia's role (if we're talking about the Dom route) is important but inferior to Kane's... Also, I can't agree that Olivia is supposedly not controlled by the player at key moments. Just the opposite, all the key moments from the very first episode onwards are exactly where we have full control over Olivia and her decisions.
(I sincerely hope that no one is taking real world messages from this story, least of all advice on masculinity, but that's an entirely different discussion.)
And I, on the contrary, hope that from this “message” of Tess, those people, to whom it was addressed, will still learn some lessons, because even I, having a purely masculine view of what is happening, can not help noting the significantly increased in the modern world manifestation of infantilism and unwillingness to take responsibility.
Imagine finding something odd, or think one element has a poor game design is making a mountain and forcing a narrative... Word of warning to anyone wanting to have a critical opinion, to share it you need to get through the dreaded white knight XD
If you notice that something doesn't look the way it should, write about it on Tess's discord (in the appropriate channel), because the test version is for that reason, so that all possible bugs, errors and other flaws will be fixed in advance, before the release of the main final version.
Sharpshooter890,..we are not so “sick”, hehe. I won't hide it, I'm very glad Tess shares my desires for Juliette...So, hopefully that's exactly how it will be.
Sharpshooter890,..we are not so “sick”, hehe. I won't hide it, I'm very glad Tess shares my desires for Juliette...So, hopefully that's exactly how it will be.
Though I Understand the episode revolves around the game show, i.e., mostly around kane .. I am very disappointed with the lack of Olivia content, especially given the size of the update! I know there is gonna be one more sub scene with her in the final update and may be one on the dom side too, but still .. Just two scenes on the dom side, same two on sub side, one even shorter is disappointing.
The update is good. The main story/lore around the founders of Karlsson's company and the way it unveils around current scenario after karlsson's death and the state the world is in, is all been consistently very engaging. I just wish to see more drama and more story rich scenes. The game show somehow didn't click with me, not very engaging. It is what it is.
We are entering into the final third of the story after the game show .. hope it will be an amazing ride. Still good amount of stuff left there to reveal and am expecting one big twist in the end.
It's hard to say, but I hope so. I wouldn't want to wait another month. As for the discussion, I get your point, the only comment is that my spoiler is from the scene you may have seen before in the screenshots of Tess herself that Mav and Silver posted here. But anyway, that's your right and I respect it. We'll discuss everything when the final version comes out.
URM is great at keeping track of flags and variables and what your decisions affect. Admittedly, it's unlikely to save you from witches, given that your Kane is K4.