Pretentious Goblin

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i really like this game. which is odd since it's outside my normal wheel house. am i the only one who wants to see a mod where the masochist/ sadist thing is done to an extreme? like masochist karryn is just a sex addicted slut or sadist karryn is a raging pycho violating and torturing the prisoners.
or am i the odd man out here?
You're certainly not the only one who wants more options for sadist Karryn. It's pretty limited right now, despite it being easier to rack up sadism points (without losing on purpose over and over). I'm sure it'll never happen, but it sure would be neat to have Karryn walk around with handcuffs and a strapon, to subdue prisoners her own way. Could be a trickier but more rewarding (in prison Order) method of disciplining worthless men who won't stay in their cells.
 

madchef

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i really like this game. which is odd since it's outside my normal wheel house. am i the only one who wants to see a mod where the masochist/ sadist thing is done to an extreme? like masochist karryn is just a sex addicted slut or sadist karryn is a raging pycho violating and torturing the prisoners.
or am i the odd man out here?
Your view of extreme masochism as sex addiction and promiscuity is indeed odd. The most extreme BDSM porn involves little to none sexual intercourse. Your typical spanking scenario will involve a 'daddy' punishing a schoolgirl for masturbation and then putting her in a corner after she promises she'll be a good girl will not masturbate... without daddy's consent. The harsher the implements, the deeper and angrier the marks, the more lashes, the more extreme it gets. Your typical sexual torture scenario will involve needles, skewers, nails, hot wax, ropes... but not multiple dicks. In other words, BDSM at its most extreme end is oddly asexual.
 
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Pretentious Goblin

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Your view of extreme masochism as sex addiction and promiscuity is indeed odd. The most extreme BDSM porn involves little to none sexual intercourse. Your typical spanking scenario will involve a 'daddy' punishing a schoolgirl for masturbation and then putting her in a corner after she promises she'll be a good girl will not masturbate... without daddy's consent. The harsher the implements, the deeper and angrier the marks, the more lashes, the more extreme it gets. Your typical sexual torture scenario will involve needles, skewers, nails, hot wax, ropes... but not multiple dicks. In other words, BDSM at its most extreme end is oddly asexual.
In this context, with Karryn being who she is and virtually everyone in the prison being a horny lowlife, promiscuity means a loss of dignity and self-respect for her, which you can see in the Passive descriptions.
 

madchef

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In this context, with Karryn being who she is and virtually everyone in the prison being a horny lowlife, promiscuity means a loss of dignity and self-respect for her, which you can see in the Passive descriptions.
Promiscuity is having multiple sexual partners, often combined with low selectivity. Still, it has nothing or almost nothing to do with sadistic or masochistic leanings. A slut is one thing, while a slave/submissive is another. There are contexts and situations where promiscuity is not a shameful thing, thus will not be used to sexually humiliate a person and thus exert sadomasochistic authority over them.

What we have here at the moment is suggesting that licking butts will make a masochist out of a woman, just the same as receiving spankings, loosing battles (wilfully or not), or cumming when someone expresses their lewd intentions aloud. On the other hand, kicking erect cocks or giving them boobjobs/handjobs or even offering one's pussy will make a sadist out of her. She will need to service more than 40 different cocks with her breasts, which is as promiscuous as fuck, yet it will make a boss out of her and her dignity gets elevated.
 
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Hyperkid00

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Promiscuity is having multiple sexual partners, often combined with low selectivity. Still, it has nothing or almost nothing to do with sadistic or masochistic leanings. A slut is one thing, while a slave/submissive is another. There are contexts and situations where promiscuity is not a shameful thing, thus will not be used to sexually humiliate a person and thus exert sadomasochistic authority over them.

What we have here at the moment is suggesting that licking butts will make a masochist out of a woman, just the same as receiving spankings, losing battles (wilfully or not), or cumming when someone expresses their lewd intentions aloud. On the other hand, kicking erect cocks or giving them boobjobs/handjobs, or even offering one's pussy will make a sadist out of her. She will need to service more than 40 different cocks with her breasts, which is as promiscuous as fuck, yet it will make a boss out of her and her dignity gets elevated.
Sadly nothing of your explanation will reach the developers, cause they will never read this except someone writes them your explanation.
 

jesebar

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The passive which reduces Max Energy by 1 for each orgasm in a day is a literal run ender. My Max Energy immediately plummeted from 31 to 13 after I got this passive. I'm actually fucking dumbfounded they thought this was a good idea. I can't fucking fathom why so many of the late tier slut passives continue to give massive debuffs like this. It's absolutely absurd. I understand and agree with giving debuffs so that its harder to maintain Karryn's purity through the entire game, but why, once my purity is completely lost, would they completely tarnish my ability to function in sex combat? It makes far more sense that Passives should debuff your purity and buff your sexuality, not debuff both across the board. This shit is so frustrating.
 

otoboke

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To make Karryn vulnerable and add some challenge.
Karryn kinda became so addicted to sex and her lust and orgasms so strong, so this is sucks energy out from her and pushes her to the edge of losing herself, to being fucked to losing consciousness and mind.
Overpowered sex-terrorist Karryn - boring AF.
 

madchef

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The passive which reduces Max Energy by 1 for each orgasm in a day is a literal run ender. My Max Energy immediately plummeted from 31 to 13 after I got this passive. I'm actually fucking dumbfounded they thought this was a good idea. I can't fucking fathom why so many of the late tier slut passives continue to give massive debuffs like this. It's absolutely absurd. I understand and agree with giving debuffs so that its harder to maintain Karryn's purity through the entire game, but why, once my purity is completely lost, would they completely tarnish my ability to function in sex combat? It makes far more sense that Passives should debuff your purity and buff your sexuality, not debuff both across the board. This shit is so frustrating.
If your max daily Energy is 31, you should really invest in mind and endurance related edicts before you expose Karryn to multiorgasmic orgies. And better sleeping equipment, so she may take proper rest. Lv 36 well-rested Warden with Mind Training on lv 5 will start her day with Energy bar around 80. This, combined with improved Healing Thoughts, Palladium and orgasm resist will help her through her busy days of fucking around.

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jesebar

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If your max daily Energy is 31, you should really invest in mind and endurance related edicts before you expose Karryn to multiorgasmic orgies. And better sleeping equipment, so she may take proper rest. Lv 36 well-rested Warden with Mind Training on lv 5 will start her day with Energy bar around 80. This, combined with improved Healing Thoughts, Palladium and orgasm resist will help her through her busy days of fucking around.

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My max daily energy is around 40, I was at 31 due to fatigue cuz, yknow, I dropped from 31 to 13 Energy from the 18 orgasms I had that day. Glad to hear max level Karryn's are capable of this, I guess, but my number of potential daily fights is practically halfed by this one passive. I should mention I'm playing on Prisoner mode, so getting to lvl5 Mind Training isn't really an option that will be available to me any time in the near future.
 

Lurkermin

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The passive which reduces Max Energy by 1 for each orgasm in a day is a literal run ender. My Max Energy immediately plummeted from 31 to 13 after I got this passive. I'm actually fucking dumbfounded they thought this was a good idea. I can't fucking fathom why so many of the late tier slut passives continue to give massive debuffs like this. It's absolutely absurd. I understand and agree with giving debuffs so that its harder to maintain Karryn's purity through the entire game, but why, once my purity is completely lost, would they completely tarnish my ability to function in sex combat? It makes far more sense that Passives should debuff your purity and buff your sexuality, not debuff both across the board. This shit is so frustrating.
Unlock Orgasm control
 

Hyperkid00

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May 20, 2018
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The passive which reduces Max Energy by 1 for each orgasm in a day is a literal run ender. My Max Energy immediately plummeted from 31 to 13 after I got this passive. I'm actually fucking dumbfounded they thought this was a good idea. I can't fucking fathom why so many of the late-tier slut passives continue to give massive debuffs like this. It's absolutely absurd. I understand and agree with giving debuffs so that it's harder to maintain Karryn's purity through the entire game, but why, once my purity is completely lost, would they completely tarnish my ability to function in sex combat? It makes far more sense that Passives should debuff your purity and buff your sexuality, not debuff both across the board. This shit is so frustrating.
Or change the files. I think that balancing of the passives will come at the end of the development.
 

mamaboiii

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If your max daily Energy is 31, you should really invest in mind and endurance related edicts before you expose Karryn to multiorgasmic orgies. And better sleeping equipment, so she may take proper rest. Lv 36 well-rested Warden with Mind Training on lv 5 will start her day with Energy bar around 80. This, combined with improved Healing Thoughts, Palladium and orgasm resist will help her through her busy days of fucking around.

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How is mind and endurance supposed to increase the max energy level, besides the two obvious ones? I assume you are referring to the ability to manage Karryn's energy and not the max value itself. Because neither the mind nor the endurance stat increase max energy. You get more energy by using a lot of energy skills (resulting in higher 'energy level' shown on the first status page), leveling up (each player level increases energy iirc) and getting flat increases from edicts and accessories.

Out of interest, what's your 'energy level' (first page in status screen) in that save?
 

It Was I DIO

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Thinking of starting a new playthrough need some info on something:

Will I break the game if I decide to unlock all the sexual skills through the .json files or whatever? I dont want to play and come the next update I find out my file is useless because I broke the game by altering stuff.
 
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It Was I DIO

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New day, New update it seems.
I have once again updated my tiny mod to work with the 7B.P version of the game.

What this is going to do for you is grant Karryn the following 10 sex skills.
Kiss, Handjob, Pet Cock, Titjob, Vaginal, Anal, Cock Stare, Rimjob, Footjob, and Blowjob.
You'll also get a couple of the "self service" passives as well for flavoring.

What this won't do is make the game into a slut simulator.
It only makes it so Karryn have the knowledge of how to do the skills without needing to lay there like a fish on dry land multiple times to actually learn how to do the actions for herself.
All you've gotta do is use the js that i have attached in the rar file when you start a new save file (haven't tested on preexisting ones) and flee (or win or lose) any battle. you'll gain the all the passives for what was listed.
You will still have to meet the desire thresholds to actually do the skills, but that's the entire point behind what I cooked up.

Additionally, in order to unlock the Flaunt skill, you just have to get your charm up.
I Highly recommend using this alongside the tweak that reverses the effect sluttiness has on charm. (it can be found using the first page of this thread.)


Happy playing!
How does this interact with the "special titles", like for example giving a blowjob before your first kiss, do we lose access to unlocking these titles if we use your mod?
 
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