RPGM Completed Karryn's Prison [v1.3.0.61 FULL + DLCs] [Remtairy]

[droglob]

Define "people".
Most played games on this site are vn's, 3dcg crap and "games" such as Wild Life and Fallen Doll. I'm pretty sure atleast some of those are still considered "best game ever" by "people".
Do they count?

No, no VN, 3DCG crap or Unreal Scam Engine shit made since then counts because they are all scams or generic. They existed before KP and they exist now in the exact same way.

I can name one game made since then that really surprised me with how good it was and that's The Pilgrimage, which is a Renpy game about Tali from Mass Effect. However, as great as that game is and as exemplary as that dev is i can't say it blows KP away because it's unfortunately still one of those games where you have to do the counterintuitive (wrong) things to see the porn, the gameplay is not as good as KP and it has my personal pet peeve of locking content behind different player options (which is in line with Mass Effect but i hate it in porn).

The importance of properly integrating porn in your game can't be overstated. It's baffling how so few games strive to do it at all much less do it right.

 

[LOGhetto]

Do you mean patreon porn game scammers? I genuinely can't remember a single good patreon porn game developer that didn't prolong/milk their game as much as possible just to milk "people" more.

Simply Mindy comes to mind.

 

[You102]

8/10 big guy

 

[HappyGoomba]

You guys do know you can just stop supporting on Patreon/Subscribestar/Ci-en, right? They're not forcing anyone to continue to give them money, nor are they promising anything for those who do give them money. I stopped contributing as soon as they stopped putting out updates on SS.

 

[Purple_Heart]

No, no VN, 3DCG crap or Unreal Scam Engine shit made since then counts because they are all scams or generic. They existed before KP and they exist now in the exact same way.

I can name one game made since then that really surprised me with how good it was and that's The Pilgrimage, which is a Renpy game about Tali from Mass Effect. However, as great as that game is and as exemplary as that dev is i can't say it blows KP away because it's unfortunately still one of those games where you have to do the counterintuitive (wrong) things to see the porn, the gameplay is not as good as KP and it has my personal pet peeve of locking content behind different player options (which is in line with Mass Effect but i hate it in porn).

The importance of properly integrating porn in your game can't be overstated. It's baffling how so few games strive to do it at all much less do it right.

How about these games? They integrate porn with gameplay but they lack decent graphics.
Solas City Heroes, Kinky Fight Club 2, Eris Dysnomia, Lona RPG, Station Master, Goblin Burrow, Last Evil, Monster Black Market. There's Holy Knight Ricca too, you can view sex scenes as long as you manage to complete the stage(so you aren't forced to lose) but it clearly seperates sex from gameplay by doing so. Also, there are text-based games(with some images too) but they are mostly just text. Degrees of Lewdity, Strive For Power, Lilith's Throne comes to mind. They aren't really best games around but they integrate sex into gameplay well enough(atleast for me).

Simply Mindy comes to mind.

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[droglob]

How about these games? They integrate porn with gameplay but they lack decent graphics.
Solas City Heroes, Kinky Fight Club 2, Eris Dysnomia, Lona RPG, Station Master, Goblin Burrow, Last Evil, Monster Black Market. There's Holy Knight Ricca too, you can view sex scenes as long as you manage to complete the stage(so you aren't forced to lose) but it clearly seperates sex from gameplay by doing so. Also, there are text-based games(with some images too) but they are mostly just text. Degrees of Lewdity, Strive For Power, Lilith's Throne comes to mind. They aren't really best games around but they integrate sex into gameplay well enough(atleast for me).


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- I played that Solas game, it's pretty good but it won't be an actual game until it's finished. IF it's finished.
- Didn't play that Fight Club one because the premise was very weak
- Eris Dysnomia is cool, especially the action mechanics but it's one of those games where you have to purposely lose and go out of your way to corrupt the character. Speaking of which there was another game like this but it was in 3D, the sequel is in development. That one was also really good but has the same issue.
- Lona RPG is a window into mental illness
- Didn't play Station Master but the previews look pretty awful
- Didn't play Goblin Burrow because i get really bored of Japanese games with static CGs nowadays especially if the art is generic
- I never played Last Evil but remember it looking kinda interesting, i didn't know it was finished so maybe I'll try it some day.
- Maybe one day I'll try Monster Black Market but i tend not to like those games because it's just generic characters, plus a lot of them are constant busy work that penalize you for wasting time watching the actual porn

That Ricca game is in my "if i ever get bored" backlog. It looked impressive gameplay and graphics wise but again the porn is counterintuitive to the gameplay. I'm definitely not into text games. These days i can't even tolerate HTML games with just jpegs. No text worth reading is just as bad though.

 

[ThatHero]

I like how the systems in Karryn work and I had fun collecting all the titles, but it is a grindy motherfucker and some people are just never gonna be into that. Adding more side-jobs and floors wouldn't have changed that, it would have just added more things for the player to grind.

I think this is my biggest issue with the game on both sides of the fence. We want them to add more content, but just based off of the Gym DLC and what was already in the game before that, everything is built around the concept of grinding and slowly unshackling Karryn's restraints. The game would honestly need to be rebuilt from the ground up with intent to outright avoid that pitfall due to how spaghetti the code seems to be at this point.

Or you know, finished updating so modders could have a real crack at it. I think the game could have been pushed much further if Rem and co. worked more directly with modders or hiring additional coders, but I understand why they wouldn't.

To deal with the grind I think the game would need to have rebalanced how arousal works on the prisoners (it is ridiculous how much longer it takes to win through arousal than through physical damage), or add an auto-battler mode that quickly deals with chaff and trash (pleasure stance is almost that but only works for slut builds and even then it is just going idle), and maybe a way to "condense" certain mechanics so they are less repetitive to deal with (i.e, add a "riot boss" mob that you can defeat to instantly end a riot on a floor instead of having to fight 5-6 mobs everytime a riot happens).

I am shocked that there were never any passives, titles, or skills that influenced enemy starting pleasure meters to make slut builds as snappy as combat ones. You basically have to be a full on slut with high Dex if on Prisoner difficulty so you can tackle 3+ prisoners at once and instantly take them out, but at that point enemies might need to finish multiple times lol

A number of the edicts that give you more income actually make the game take longer, while the ones that would decrease the grind are very expensive. I end up skipping most of the edicts in every run because of this. You should be able to run the bar/visitor center/strip club without doing the sidejob mini-game after fulfilling some conditions (maybe with a caveat of higher fatigue and/or a debuff), even if the rewards are lowered. It would also help if you got bonuses from doing the sidejobs in the same way that you do with Artisan Meals and Shop Items (these are both underutilized and waste time since you need to walk to their rooms for the effects). The Gym for sure should have some positive effects instead of how it currently is with only negative ones.

 

[Rinnn777]

Still no way to use CCmod in Joiplay?

What is cc mod?

 

[blackstar944]

how do you use the demo skill for the gym job i have it unlocked but cant use it

 

[Todeswunsch]

how do you use the demo skill for the gym job i have it unlocked but cant use it

If i remember correctly in adition to the demostration skill you need to have unlocked the vaginal or anal skill and the desire in the corresponding area

 

[Dickhead8888]

What has released since KP that blew people's crusty socks away? Cause i haven't seen anything worthy of note.

Unlike Karryn's Prison, they werent released at the time where people's need for sex at its peak, in the middle of covid when you cant even see your neighbors.

I enjoy the game but I'm not gonna glaze it act like i'm a connaisseur and it's the best thing ever, that's be silly.

 

[Dickhead8888]

I have to disagree here, the market wasn't "new" back in 2020.

I mean, yes, in 2020, hgames in general became more popular, both due to Covid, and Steam starting since around 2017 to accept Hgames...
However, the Hgame market itself already existed for a long time. If we're not including Japan's Hgame market (which existed since even before the 90's), Hgames started getting popular globally around 2012, mostly due to the fantranslation of japanese Hgames, then even more in 2015 with the birth of Nutaku.

Karryn's Prison worked because it has a more interesting way to corrupt the protagonist, while most corruption games, even now, still do the usual "trigger some events in town and lose fights".
It also has a very unique feel compared to most RPG Maker games, and a lot of stuff that can make your experience feel unique (multiple ways to make your protagonist stronger, multiple endings, a lot of title with actual effects, minigames, NG+...)

The devs also weren't at their first game, so they were already a bit known in the market, and people had a point of reference (Meltys Quest).

Karryn's Prison have some problems, but even if it released today, I think it would still sell well enough.

Most of the unhappy people aren't unhappy because of how Karryn's Prison released (even if they did cut some content), they're unhappy because the devs didn't do much with it afterwards by releasing very niche DLCs (like the P-cup one) instead of more actual content like new floors for example, or working on their next big game.

The market wasnt new, but the people was, in the middle of covid, when everyone locked up and horny.

I dont know if Rem had a budget on advertising, but He put the game as "finished" and "completed" (arguably) right at that time, helped it quickly gained attraction and attention over other many "ongoing" projects, which been quite awhile, since the world began, been known as lackluster money scams (many of them at least), as you know it. I remember woke up that morning and Karryn's Prison was everywhere.

You are comparing Karryn Prison to other low tier weaker quicker buck bowrser VNs. Proper Corruption mechanics, multiple endings, RPG mechanics and all wasnt new, it's wasnt uncommon, it's been done before. and any decent games do build it properly, Let's not pretend Karryn is the only one.

Karryn Prison wouldnt survive with that triple A price tag if it was released last year. You have to admit it there are objectively way better things to spend 30 bucks (40 with dlcs) and 500 hours now, on steam at least, moving on from 2020, not talking only about hgame, or adult products in general.

Meltys Quest was a way smaller and less popular game, Dev team would get experience from it to make a better game, but not the preference of wider audiences, also the market is no longer like what it was at Karryn's release.

The people are unhappy at Karryn's Prison because they still treat the game as an 'ongoing" instead of "finished" and expecting more contents, more actual contents. Rem isnt free of blame neither, yes he's not promising anything with that "completed" tags, but he does tease the hell out of his supporters by deliberately leave hinds of available expansions to the game's voids which only he knows will never come. a good example is that entrance to nursing room which on purpose, never removed.

 

[Rakasob]

 

[droglob]

View attachment 4009232
Here's the mod download link, for those of you who need it!
Pixeldrain

Huh? How do i use this? I installed it but it's just the regular CGs when i go to the bathroom. Is it not compatible with fast cut ins? Does it need any other things? The instructions don't mention any requirements. Is it for the previous version of the game or some shit? Did the guynjust write H Cupmeaning the DLC and not the option?

 

[Rhogog]

I don't really follow this game's development history so I don't have any comment on that. However I've seen many people say this statement, how this hgame is the best hgame out there and I genuinely don't understand how.

The first time I played this hgame on easy mode and completed it I was like "Ok", it was a decently good hgame, a 6.5/10. But then the biggest problem surfaced when I tried the harder difficulties, how this hgame was actually smeared with tons of RNG and mind-numbing grind that completely spoiled my enjoyment of the H content. The amount of clicks I had to do during H-combat and side job was something I've never experienced in any other games. Instead of my dick, I felt like my soul was the one being sucked dry as I try to desperately end the misery of repeating the same stuff over and over again. That bar side job for example was pure hell on steroid and it didn't get any better even after installing those mods.

The H content is certainly good but it's completely spoiled by the horrendous game mechanics. This hgame is far from being the best hgame. But eh, if people can still enjoy the sex scenes despite the mind-numbing-grind-fiesta then good for them. I gave this hgame like 7 chances but 6 out of them, I gave up. The grind and RNG is simply too much for my taste.

Just curious, what would you say is the best H game?

 

[RLJFZ]

Just curious, what would you say is the best H game?

The answer to this is very subjective. There's no objective answer as to what is best. For some, their best hgame could be MGQ, for others it could be any of the Rance series, some others is Karryn's Prison, for me it's LonaRPG. LonaRPG doesn't have much when it comes to sex but the mechanics in this hgame is some of the deepest, most complex yet simple I've seen in any RPGmaker/H games I've played. I'm someone who look more for hgames that got a deeper game mechanics with the sex being an option, so LonaRPG fits the criteria quite well for me. Taking aside the devs questionable antics, there's so many things I could praise about this hgame, like having a dynamic AI NPCs where you can have them fight among each other, zero need to grind to get things done, so on and so on.

 

[Kuroimi95]

I dont know if Rem had a budget on advertising, but he put the game as "finished" and "completed" (arguably) right at that time, helped it quickly gained attraction and attention over other many "ongoing" projects, which been quite awhile, since the world began, been known as lackluster money scams (many of them at least), as you know it. I remember woke up that morning and Karryn's Prison was everywhere.

I don't really see the problem with that? The game was a complete experience back in 2021, even with the cut content.
Now, of course, I'm not a fan of how much content they've cut, especially for floor 4 (IIRC), but a lot of games release with cut content that never sees the day, especially Hgames. Is it bad? Maybe.

You are comparing Karryn Prison to other low tier weaker quicker buck bowrser VNs. Proper Corruption mechanics, multiple endings, RPG mechanics and all wasnt new, it's wasnt uncommon, it's been done before. and any decent games do build it properly, Let's not pretend Karryn is the only one.

I'm not comparing Karryn's Prison to "low tier weaker quicker buck browser VNs", I literally said "most corruption games".
Also, no, unique mechanics was, and still is, a rare occurrence, look at actually released RPG Maker games for example, there's like 80% of them that are either the classic RPG Maker gameplay, battle fuck that works exactly like the classic RPG Maker gameplay, or simple CG galleries.

Karryn Prison wouldnt survive with that triple A price tag if it was released last year. You have to admit it there are objectively way better things to spend 30 bucks (40 with dlcs) and 500 hours now, on steam at least, moving on from 2020, not talking only about hgame, or adult products in general.

30 bucks isn't a AAA price tag, what are you even talking about?
Most big indie games are around 20-40 bucks, AAA price tag is 60-70 bucks, sometimes even more, and let's not talk about DLCs, or else we could easily go to 100 bucks or more.
If you want some comparison, you could go to DLsite and filter by pricetag between 3001-5000 JPY,

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Also, Karryn's Prison doesn't need 500 hours to clear, most people would probably do only one ending, maybe two.

Meltys Quest was a way smaller and less popular game, Dev team would get experience from it to make a better game, but not the preference of wider audiences, also the market is no longer like what it was at Karryn's release.

Even if the market "changed", like you said, Karryn's Prison would still sell, it's a big polished game with unique mechanics, a good artstyle, and a lot of content.
Also, Meltys Quest is very different, yes, but it still helps with their popularity. People who liked Meltys Quest would very likely want to try out their next game, it's the same with literally every game company.

Since we're talking about sales, might as well include numbers.
According to DLsite, which have the highest confirmed sales for both games (by that I mean that it's the only place we have actual numbers, since Steam doesn't show sales numbers afaik) :

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sold at least 19,619 copies

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sold at least 45,521 copies

 

[Kunt]

No, no VN, 3DCG crap or Unreal Scam Engine shit made since then counts because they are all scams or generic. They existed before KP and they exist now in the exact same way.

I can name one game made since then that really surprised me with how good it was and that's The Pilgrimage, which is a Renpy game about Tali from Mass Effect. However, as great as that game is and as exemplary as that dev is i can't say it blows KP away because it's unfortunately still one of those games where you have to do the counterintuitive (wrong) things to see the porn, the gameplay is not as good as KP and it has my personal pet peeve of locking content behind different player options (which is in line with Mass Effect but i hate it in porn).

The importance of properly integrating porn in your game can't be overstated. It's baffling how so few games strive to do it at all much less do it right.

How about tales of androgyny or tower of trample?

 

[Purple_Heart]

How long is it going to take for people to realize Remtairy didn't make Meltys Quest?

 

[ich0]

How long is it going to take for people to realize Remtairy didn't make Meltys Quest?

Are you sure? They themself say they did it and also steam. If you know the history please share it.