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who's Hanna and what does that have to do with this? If it's against Patreon policy it doesnt matter if it's been done before and not removed from patreon, they don't have time to check every little thing they havnt been told to check.
as for him not liking it, I don't either. Perfectly good reasons.
Hannah is the MC in 3diddly's comic he published prior to Katie's where she's one of the side characters. She is tricked and coerced by all possible means until she becomes a breeding bitch and adopts a bimbo personality, during this process she undergoes several physical changes. It doesn't become evident if her breast and butt augmentations are consensual or not.
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Hannah is the MC in Hannah's Corruption and a character in this game. HC was the comic that 3D first did and was the basis for his patreon. What it has to do with this is that he is stating one thing while doing another. He stated he doesn't like it yet it was a part of his previous work. You'll note I was not commenting on Patreon policy as I am not aware of the intricacies of it.
If you are not aware of what disingenuous means look it up.
I remember now thanks.
I am aware of the word. Didn't know it was the creators message since you quoted two different people in your messages. Thought it was someone else saying it, thus making the word incorrectly used. Regardless. I have to say I don't understand his reasoning. First he says he doesn't think it make sense for her to accept forced surgery story wise. Which I agree, it makes no sense at all. I said that from the get go. If he thinks that and doesn't like it. Why the hell add it to the game even if just in the corruption route. He should just make the game he wants. I sure as hell would lose interest in creating the game if I was making something I disliked. But that's just my two cents.
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Sorry for that, my tone was a little sharp.
Yeah it was a 3D posting on which I was commenting. I'm kinda with you at least as far as not understanding his reasoning. I've really haven't thought it made much sense outside of the totally corrupted path (and even there I'm really tired of all the massive breasts on characters in these games). I think maybe he's suggesting that if she is corrupted then it's an evolution for her? Not sure I agree but I can at least see that perspective from a porn star-like viewpoint.
It does seem to be a common thread in his work so sortof what you have to expect if you want to follow him. I like his art and some of his storylines but not all. Though like you I'm more than happy for him to make the story he wants. God knows I couldn't do what he does
3diddly never said he didn't like his comic. The main point in the discussion about his comic was if the plot really hit the theme of 'Hannah's corruption'. As all of Hannah's changes happened by (brutal) force the topic on the patreon was if she adopted her bimbo personality to survive and protect her child and (ex) husband or if she did it willingly. To understand what happened to her you may want to have a look at the comic or read the short summary on the purity path in Katie's.
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OK, time for my 1.11 review.
As mentioned before, this didn't seem to do anything for the 'purity' path. The corruption path has a bit of new content (2 new scenes?), and this probably ties in with the blackmail path as well.
Overall, the update did seem to be a bit light to me. Those that have been doing the 'every other update' strategy that have 1.10 can probably rest easy until 1.12 drops, unless you just HAVE to see the added sex stuff for the corruption path.
No dad stuff in this update. *sigh*
The rest of this post is wishful thinking...
I'm still not getting anything close to the storyline I'd rather see instead. Many pages ago I posted up about a storyline path where Katie uses her encounters to gather intel on Mr. Wright, and maybe having her dad help her with this as well. The goal here being to 'turn the tables' so that Katie can become successful in her own right at the expense of Mr. Wright when things finally fall into place. In this alternative story, Katie is 'using her body' to gain advantage, as opposed to just being a fuck bunny... in this case she's trying to keep Brian in the wings for when she's successful, and is doing things she's not happy with but that are necessary for her to reach her goal, as opposed to just being used.
In this alternate story, the dad thing could go either way - maybe Katie chooses dad over Brian at the end... she's an adult and there are a couple of places where fathers and adult daughters can legally marry. Twisted ending, I know.
Of course, that's not the story we have before us, and it would take a lot of work to 'dovetail' it into the current structure.
The people that are actually paying for this game (patrons) seem to like where things are going, so I don't have much hope for this idea to ever be developed. I suppose I could try to do a mod, but I have too many things on my plate now, and I'd need to reverse engineer even more character assets. If I was more excited about this game, maybe, but I'm not all that excited at the moment, I just like how the brunette Katie looks...
As mentioned before, this didn't seem to do anything for the 'purity' path. The corruption path has a bit of new content (2 new scenes?), and this probably ties in with the blackmail path as well.
Overall, the update did seem to be a bit light to me. Those that have been doing the 'every other update' strategy that have 1.10 can probably rest easy until 1.12 drops, unless you just HAVE to see the added sex stuff for the corruption path.
No dad stuff in this update. *sigh*
The rest of this post is wishful thinking...
I'm still not getting anything close to the storyline I'd rather see instead. Many pages ago I posted up about a storyline path where Katie uses her encounters to gather intel on Mr. Wright, and maybe having her dad help her with this as well. The goal here being to 'turn the tables' so that Katie can become successful in her own right at the expense of Mr. Wright when things finally fall into place. In this alternative story, Katie is 'using her body' to gain advantage, as opposed to just being a fuck bunny... in this case she's trying to keep Brian in the wings for when she's successful, and is doing things she's not happy with but that are necessary for her to reach her goal, as opposed to just being used.
In this alternate story, the dad thing could go either way - maybe Katie chooses dad over Brian at the end... she's an adult and there are a couple of places where fathers and adult daughters can legally marry. Twisted ending, I know.
Of course, that's not the story we have before us, and it would take a lot of work to 'dovetail' it into the current structure.
The people that are actually paying for this game (patrons) seem to like where things are going, so I don't have much hope for this idea to ever be developed. I suppose I could try to do a mod, but I have too many things on my plate now, and I'd need to reverse engineer even more character assets. If I was more excited about this game, maybe, but I'm not all that excited at the moment, I just like how the brunette Katie looks...
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Little message on the "purity path" which says it will update after the return from Vegas
I'm a little surprised we haven't seen more about this sort of thing. In one of the updates (can't remember which one) Katie actually did some snooping and found some dirt on Wright. I sortof hoped more would come of it, and it still might, but it's not been mentioned since.
What I miss in the game is that there is no real arc of tension at the moment. At least in the corruption path the next actions are rather predictable and the storyline isn't very coherent. As well as I understand the dev tries to find out what his patrons prefer by several polls, it seems to me that he had a good and interesting storyline in mind before he started with his game. However, trying to fulfill the wishes of his patrons changes the story in a way that more and more nasty actions are being added which really disturb the storyline. As an example, besteality has nothing to do with corruption. As it is a visual novel corruption may be illustrated by (slight) physical changes like tattoos, piercings, change of hairstyle or even augmentation which stand as a sign for moral degredation and the path into debauchery. As dbp5ca states in the previous post I strongly hope there'll be a continuation of side stories that have been started but not continued so far like the Hannah story, drug abuse, Katie's investigations about Wright, conflict between Wright and Orlov, Brandon's role and some more. I must confess I like some turn of events and these started side stories could help to keep the tension.
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Sometimes when a lot of people are demanding a feature, I make content that I'm very neutral about or not interested in. Hannah's corruption was made in such a way that the reader is supposed to believe Hannah's enjoying it, including the physical changes to her body. I only added the last scene in order to add credibility to the overall story.
To be honest, I don't like making the manipulation/blackmail path because it makes me feel like a sadist. However, many people get a kick out of it and it is fiction, so I'm going along with it.
I never thought that you were kind of a sadist, however when I read some of the comments on the patreon, especially concerning the Hannah comic, I think some of them are really sadistic and perverted. I won't judge anyone and corruption/ntr is rather difficult to describe in a VN because a lot of it is happening in the mind of a person, I very much appreciate you try to reveal Katie's thoughts and feelings (what was missing in Hannah's).
Never said he didn't like it. I was clearly talking about the Forced surgery. Also no, checked it out and I don't enjoy NTR, which was what that seemed to be all about. To make a point of it to send the guy video recordings of the girl doing shit doesn't really do it for me. so I stopped there. Though I did think he only had himself to blame. Which is why I am fine with Katie's corruption because the "fiance" is barely noticeable at all in the corruption path, he could just as well not be there at all. I also have this idea that they are doing the same to him that was done to Hanna's ex. We just haven't been told yet. wouldn't surprise me anyway. I'm gonna keep checking this one out. I might skip a few updates though as this seems to be taking a turn for the worse.
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Yeah I get that some of this is just your response to your patrons. I appreciated the involvement you had with us when I supported you a while ago and I'm sure your patrons appreciate it now
I get what you are saying about the "feeling like a sadist" thing. Like @othello points out above, some of my fellow patrons seemed to really enjoy the harder aspects of some of what unfolded. Looking at some of the suggestions for alternate endings really showed that; they were almost all very much harder core than your original story. Kinda turned me off being part of the community there unfortunately.
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This is exactly why i voted for weekly upgrades but most of the other patrons voted for biweekly upgrades and "less sex scenes and more story" for each upgrade. If that was a RPGMaker game, 3Diddly could fill the upgrade with Katie walking from one place to other (like other devs do) lol. As this is a visual novel, each upgrade is still short, at the past i can play every other other update in 2 weeks and have some content, right now it takes a month for every other update to come out.