Fuck Patreon, seriously, they banned an artist, but they still charged me, cant delete pledges on shutdown pages. Had to fight tooth and nail to get a fucking dollar back on my card. Man i don't want to punish these hard-working artists but WTF I am thinking about removing the card and fuck patreon. I like 3D's work since his comic, problem is getting start-up money to make a patreon like site is hard to do for porn. Pornhub started out ripping porn from the internet and consolidated in one site, and they had lawsuit one after another. Now, look at them. Just have to find a fat cat investor.