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That sound like soo much of effort. But lets not afraid to face the truth. Doing such game is not that super-duper hard as some of you portrait it. To be honest it is not hard at all, especially after over year of experience. The way you describing it is as if authors were sitting there with James Cameron and 10 million dollars worth team of experts working on every detail, every pixel, every possible route. As ahrimansiah wrote. They just suck cash as long as it is possible before pledge amount starts to drop, then do some things(way less than their potential) and release it in glory for another pledge bump and that's how it goes. Of course right after that post will probably pop up answers how I don't have right to expect anything if I am not patreon and even if I am I shouldn't because that's not how patreon works, there is no law agreement between sides. Yeah, there is none, but that doesn't mean players can't expect to be at least treated with some dignity. 1 month is enough time to make your thesis and prepare to defend it at university. How much time is required for team of few to make a cartoon-style game with everything gravitating to all kind of sodomy ? xD Do they have jobs other than this 5k $ per month ? If so that would maybe explain some things, but I don't think so.
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P) wrote super truth about patreon and how it ruined that porn-novel industry. Now it is in most cases all about milking donators and lying about progress. And community that will poke you to death if you dare to show even slight sign of frustration adds to picture perfectly.thats something i never understood how can the community the people who PAY for this not be mad and not complain its unatural!That sound like soo much of effort. But lets not afraid to face the truth. Doing such game is not that super-duper hard as some of you portrait it. To be honest it is not hard at all, especially after over year of experience. The way you describing it is as if authors were sitting there with James Cameron and 10 million dollars worth team of experts working on every detail, every pixel, every possible route. As ahrimansiah wrote. They just suck cash as long as it is possible before pledge amount starts to drop, then do some things(way less than their potential) and release it in glory for another pledge bump and that's how it goes. Of course right after that post will probably pop up answers how I don't have right to expect anything if I am not patreon and even if I am I shouldn't because that's not how patreon works, there is no law agreement between sides. Yeah, there is none, but that doesn't mean players can't expect to be at least treated with some dignity. 1 month is enough time to make your thesis and prepare to defend it at university. How much time is required for team of few to make a cartoon-style game with everything gravitating to all kind of sodomy ? xD Do they have jobs other than this 5k $ per month ? If so that would maybe explain some things, but I don't think so.
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this really depend on how many new ARTs they make! because the story part and writing will hardly take more than 1 week! its not a 3d or Animated game! and like their last release there is probably only few new scenes! WHICH again would hardly take more than 1 month! specially considering that different between a SUB and DOM (and etc) scenes are mostly some edits on some parts of the main art! so...
Is it hard to make such beautiful arts and story? yes it is, will it take this long? NO WAY!
Do they need 3 month to prepare the game or to milk cash? ofcourse milking cash!
Are we in position to expect them to be better? ofcourse! they are getting PAID for this! they arent doing it for charity or fun free time! it doesnt matter WHO is paying them! the IMPORTANT thing is they ARE GETTING PAID!
The problem is not Hreinn Games, its the corrupted system of patron, like i said before Patron Plagued the whole Porn game making community, the one time Donate or buy like old times was far better option.
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It doesn't have fanfic mod though. At least add some new content for Android.
Yeah. I'm sure you've noticed how all those "bonus" scenes for patreons are totally the same stuff as from main game but with head swap or smthn like that. Like this Elmy undertable bar fuck and bonus content was exactly the same art but with sabia's head. That's like 10 minutes job in Photoshop.
Hope for this is already dead since the writer who lay out Sabia's story is no longer with the project.
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I dont really agree with that, Its not like this is rocket science.
Yes... science is objective, formulaic, follow the procedures and you can reproduce the results.
Writing is not formulaic. Writer who thinks women are all bitch or slut bucket, cannot follow a recipe and make a Sabia.
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Thats why you have multiple routes, slut route she becomes a puppet or cumbucket gameover. Dom route she makes her army gets revenge and uses the orcs for her own gain. Wheew that was tough....so strained my wrist writing that.
Writing is very formulaic
The same as making music. There are equations for a bit that will be liked by majority(Pachelbel's canon for example). The same comes to writing a story. And what writer thinks is one thing, but what viewers want to see is second(first).
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Supposedly, Nomo came up with the characters and the broad outline of the plot, Sierra's job was to flesh that outline out. Who knows how true this actually is, of course.
From their Patreon: "Sorry for the delay, we were just waiting on the beta testing to be complete, this time around it was slower than usual."
These things do happen, but I think they've lost too much trust now, because it seems their patrons are starting to get fed up.
These things do happen, but I think they've lost too much trust now, because it seems their patrons are starting to get fed up.
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yeah i saw that msg, the problem is not the delay, the problem is they take 3 months for making the new version and even after 3 months they havent even finished beta testing and what we get in result is worth at best 1 month content, i mean if they would add alot of new scenes and a good advance in story then no one would complain! and everyone will end up happy, but right now they keep making everyone thirstier and thirstier and in the end all they give is couple drops of water instead of a glass of water.
anyway, whole beauty of KOD was its story and the art(specifically sabia) ofcourse, i just hope they do finish the main story the proper way and dont ruin it by writing tomany cheap different side stories or dropping the game before finishing it.
EDIT: to be 100% honest, personally the only reason i want new version is 30% for advance in sabia story and 60% is to see Viressa new content for it! and finally 10% to see sabia getting fucked in her arabic dancer outfit! because it was DAMN DISAPPOINTING in last update to see only 1 scenes with that outfit where she just stay there and get ass slapped >.>
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The technicalities of creation are indeed relatively formulaic, if only because there's only so much you can do with the available language and instruments and whatever while still remaining coherent and intelligible (not that some composers and visual artists didn't regard the latter as quite optional ofc.)Writing is very formulaic
But that's not how art works as eg. any number of mediocre to terrible formulaic movies, songs, novels etc. only too readily attest to; making something memorable and worthwhile (in brief, "good") with that technical toolkit is where the presence or lack of real skill, creative drive and talent makes a very obvious difference.
The bummer about all of this for anyone who's followed this group for awhile is Noxian Nights didn't have these problems at all and KoD started off with such promise. Communication and consistency just fell off over time.
Considering in 2018 Sierra did this, a sequel to Crimson Gray, Desecration of Wings, and released two books on Amazon it's clear where the issue is after these last two rounds.
I'm only sending them a $1 a month so big picture it's nothing. I spent $60 on a bottle of whiskey that'll be gone soon enough yesterday. But after a repeated pattern it's probably just best to never expect much from the 3 month release period and the amount of content it provides.
Like I said it's just a bummer because Hreinn Games used to be such an easy thing to support in a sea of failed or cash grab projects on Pateron.
Considering in 2018 Sierra did this, a sequel to Crimson Gray, Desecration of Wings, and released two books on Amazon it's clear where the issue is after these last two rounds.
I'm only sending them a $1 a month so big picture it's nothing. I spent $60 on a bottle of whiskey that'll be gone soon enough yesterday. But after a repeated pattern it's probably just best to never expect much from the 3 month release period and the amount of content it provides.
Like I said it's just a bummer because Hreinn Games used to be such an easy thing to support in a sea of failed or cash grab projects on Pateron.