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So Hellhound semen can impregnate women, but Orc semen cannot? what a strange world.
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The hellhound scene was in Viressa's fanfic mod. So far in the story, only catgirls have been confirmed to be able to reproduce with another species.
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I don't know why someone don't put abandoned sign on this game because it relay is since Sierra left.
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I have no idea how the developers will finish this game, if they finish it at all.
I think if they stayed on the RPG Maker engine, the game would have a better chance. Now there is tons of text in the game, a minimum of content, art is getting worse, bloopers with Sabia's tattoo, the plot is going nowhere. Still sick, from the realization of Sabia's tent. A lot of content that I would like to see in the original game, just in the end they spread the pictures separately, so bad that it’s even probably funny
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I think if they stayed on the RPG Maker engine, the game would have a better chance. Now there is tons of text in the game, a minimum of content, art is getting worse, bloopers with Sabia's tattoo, the plot is going nowhere. Still sick, from the realization of Sabia's tent. A lot of content that I would like to see in the original game, just in the end they spread the pictures separately, so bad that it’s even probably funny
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Honestly I'd take the jankiness of Noxian Nights if it meant this game gets a chance at ever being completed. RPG Maker sucks, but it's not a deal breaker, a good game can easily mitigate any issues one might have with it, see Karryn's Prison for example.I have no idea how the developers will finish this game, if they finish it at all.
I think if they stayed on the RPG Maker engine, the game would have a better chance. Now there is tons of text in the game, a minimum of content, art is getting worse, bloopers with Sabia's tattoo, the plot is going nowhere. Still sick, from the realization of Sabia's tent. A lot of content that I would like to see in the original game, just in the end they spread the pictures separately, so bad that it’s even probably funny
Tons of text is not necessarily a bad thing, I don't understand this complaint, the game is a Visual Novel, text is a good thing here, since that's what this type of game is all about. Though, the newer text is a little sub-par, this writer isn't giving their best, or maybe they are but they just aren't very good.
I'm glad there are more people sick of that stupid fucking tent, I was going crazy thinking about how long it must have been in the same 'home' that is fit for a rat, surely the person running the 'brothel' can try to get better lodging...But then again, everyone besides the Warchief seems to reside in a tent, so I don't know if we'll ever see Sabia living outside of one.
It comes down to how the abandoned tag is defined on this site, and how inconsistently it's actually used by the mods.
It's supposed to be if the game hasn't been updated (or sometimes at least had a news post from the developer) after a certain amount of time. I think that's like 3-4 months.
But some threads can go for 4+ months without any game updates or news posts without being labeled as abandoned, and after the game has been updated the abandoned tag isn't always removed (I think that's mostly when it's an update posted in the thread but not a first post update).
Regardless, the abandoned tag isn't a good indicator of the actual status of a game.
What do you mean...
More text oh...
"Sabia is bitch ass slut orc-cock lover, is being punishment good, slave slut." I mean it's no lord of the rings but Jesus the diologue is riveting.
Actually in the early game Sabia says to an orc "Yeah, you're really virile." Which was extremely jarring but imagine that. A game that has devolved to where every one line of dialogue that means something 4 more just say "Shut the fuck up cum loving cock whore, slut for orc cock". There was a line where someone used a word worth like 50 points.
I'm saying hey, I keep talking about making a smut game and not doing... so I get it. But I used to give them money too. Now I couldn't imagine paying for dialogue I could in fact write better ten times over.
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Why was that jarring, exactly? I'm trying to understand where you're coming from, but that line of dialogue perfectly fits for the character that Sabia was supposed to be. Either I'm misunderstanding or you were surprised that a human was disgusted by Orcs in a world where humans massacred every non-human race.
I agree that the current writing is far worse than it was in the beginning, but using the sub-route's 'sex dialogue' is a pretty cheap shot, I'm less concerned with that and more concerned with characterization, narrative, and overall flow of events. All of which were rather good at the early parts of the game and slowly devolved into something cheaper and less interesting as time went on.
Though, I'm just curious what exactly you were expecting in terms of dialogue when you played the sub route which more or less meant letting the orcs have their way with Sabia? I think it's fair to assume that playing the sub route more or less forces you into a heavily-pornified version of the game.
There have been a few scenes, like one of the ones with Rokgrid (during the raiding) or kind of in the Dom version of the first scene with Avion and maybe 1-2 others scattered about, where Sabia thinks or says something along the lines of "the sex is good, but it would be better if they just shut the fuck up".
Personally i think that this is both funny an appropriate. Sure, it shouldn't be overused, but to me, these remarks represent a trait of Sabia that i like and it can be present in both her dom and sub version. Similarly, it is both sexy and cute when she rolls her eyes or just pouts with a red face during conversations, because as i see it, those are her signs of "either spare me the stupid comment or just get on with the action already".
Sometimes fewer words can convey a lot more.
Personally i think that this is both funny an appropriate. Sure, it shouldn't be overused, but to me, these remarks represent a trait of Sabia that i like and it can be present in both her dom and sub version. Similarly, it is both sexy and cute when she rolls her eyes or just pouts with a red face during conversations, because as i see it, those are her signs of "either spare me the stupid comment or just get on with the action already".
Sometimes fewer words can convey a lot more.
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This is why I feel like dom Sabia is the more interesting route, it feels a bit more realistic to see what was once a commander of some number of human forces act this way as opposed to just spreading her legs for orcs and getting blackmailed by a catgirl. But from what I've seen, the devs have put more effort into the sub route, the content just feels a bit more varied and plentiful.
One thing that specifically bothered me is that Sub route has two ways of handling the shaman, either apologize to him or deal with him normally via 'court'. But the dom route only has the court option, I feel like it would have been a lot cooler if dom Sabia managed to do something to flip the tables on him, humiliate him further, beat the shit out of him, make his named lackeys turn on him, or really anything that hammers in that this Sabia is not one to be fucked with.
Another thing that bothers me is how meek Sub Sabia is, does the writer even understand that a person can be more than one personality trait? Sub Sabia literally shakes at the knees when some subordinate orc glowers at her, that's after she beat up orcs left and right in the arena and went on several raids that ended in blood baths. How does that make any sense? She can be submissive in bed but an actual human outside of it, but apparently that's too difficult for the writer, so he just settles for Typical Meek Hentai Girl #4505.
But, maybe they'll address such things in V0.5 in 2060, can't wait to enjoy Sabia's tent via brainchip gaming.
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Personally, i prefer the sub route , but a lot of the best scenes are on the dom one. But several people who are more knowledgeable than i am, have explained here that a lot of the scenes on the dom route are basically active subs, so that might explain my position. And yes, even with this included, the dom route has way more variety on themes and set ups.
Given this, i had several problems with the shaman story line too, but at least most of them could be fixed later on. I mainly focused on the sub+shaman route, because the dom version is cut quite short, but after reading your post, yeah, it would be nice if Sabia found a way to punch back a bit.
My problem with the sub version was mainly how Sabia apparently forgot what a "set up" is, even tho, coming from a powerful noble family, she should have more knowledge about them than the whole orc camp combined. What i think could fix this and add a cool twist to the story line is if sub-Sabia's goal was to fuck the shaman's henchmen well enough for them to spill the beans on some of their plans or manipulations, preferably publicly.
This could be added later on and it would mean that Sabia went along with the Shaman's plans both because she enjoys a bit of humiliating sex AND because this was a way to knock out a known trouble maker / rival AND from a writing perspective, this could give the erotic scenes a purpose in Sabia's plans. And if someone wanted to stay allied with the shaman, it would be easy to just add a choice to go along with this plan or not and the following scene could go almost the same way.
So i'm with you on this one too. It can be sexy and funny (a nice combination imo) when Sabia gets hot and wet during a confrontation, but it should be emphasized that she is not scared and she shouldn't just drop to her knees every time. She could also sometimes taunt her partner into action (Tekrok's raid and Avion's dom version) or initiate or dare i say tell the orcs that sex comes after work and they should do their job first.
A sub can still say things like this and still be a sub, right? Sub =/= ragdoll, unless i'm mistaken.
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In twenty years, if you're lucky.
This is why I think the writer doesn't understand how humans work, doesn't know how to write characters that aren't simple one-dimensional tropes, or just isn't a very good writer. I've played a couple of Sierra's games, and I've never noticed such a glaring failure in terms of writing.
Currently, Sub Sabia (Subia?) is one of the most pathetic people in the camp that you might as well unlock cleaning up trash again, I don't know if that gets some people going, but to me it breaks all of the pre-established characterization and world-building just to get some cheap, low-effort smut. Again, this writer doesn't understand that people can be one thing in bed, but another thing outside of it.
I'm going to have to disagree, one look at the CGs makes it clear that most were drawn for Subia route and then Dom Sabia merely got a text makeover to make the scenes into dom ones. From my playthrough of a solo dom and a shaman sub, I felt like I had more variety and scenes in general on the sub route, and it was overall a better experience due to the CGs matching a submissive role over a dominant one. And just like I said before, 90% of the dom scenes were actually pretty submissive in nature, so I kind of don't see them as good scenes since they are quite misplaced.
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