- Apr 21, 2018
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alright, now I know what the clarity system is. Vren still can't let the resistence system from LR1 go
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The feature creep is getting out of control. It's like no one has a vision of how the final product should play and is just saying yes to whatever game system they think of in any given update. You can't convince me there was ever a design document written by someone with a brain that planned all these systems and how they'd work together. It's clearly just a developer pursuing flights of fancy and then spending patch after patch trying to get things to work together until their next flight of fancy hits. It's a shame because if the developer had a visions and was judicious this could be something special instead of a cautionary tale in game design.
- May 3, 2017
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You meant it as a critical comment but you actually described exactly what LR2 was about from the beginning. Vren made it pretty clear when he started the development that the main vision for him will be to become a better programmer, to test a lot of things out etc.
If he will clean out LR2 or use what he learned in a complete new project is not known yet - but he has never been secret about his intentions. It is one of the reasons that Patreons basically get no real advantage or goodies compared to anybody else.
- Aug 6, 2017
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Well, considering it's a buggy mess, he still sucks, and going the bethesda route of blocking people from making mods is only gonna bite him in the ass
Assuming he even notices considering how far up there he is by trying to block mods
- Jul 11, 2017
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He started in Dec 2017, are you telling me he didn't waste a single day thinking of a story?
Almost 3 years and half, and there is only a bug feast.
Let's hope he really used this time to improve.
Almost 3 years and half, and there is only a bug feast.
Let's hope he really used this time to improve.
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- Jun 4, 2019
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Jesus. Are you one of those few guys who loves to see the grunting face of the man in porn? What the fuck.
I'm against this. Not only for the purpose of immersion - but also because there are more important things at hand that the game needs to fix. This also wouldn't be a problem at all when the female models had a brink of detail and charme to them. The only good middleground would be to add the male body - but for the love of god, the game needs no weird ass looking, generic daz, uncanny valley male face.
This is bugging me too big times. This game is out for so long already and there is NOT A SINGLE ROUTE FLESHED OUT.
The events are nice and fine, but there is no progression in the story at all. What baffles me the most is that the player still can't enter a releationship with the main characters in this game which is really weird to me.
A lot of people here are complaining about complexity and grind - with which i dont really have a problem. Complexity almost always adds to the depth of the game and the meaning behind grind amplifies the reward you achive at the end big times. The only problem is of course if this is implemented lazily and without a vision/plan. MY PROBLEM IS, that you don't get rewarded at all, because it fails on delivering literally the fundamental thing of a porn game - no story, no pleasing visuals, no progression.
I don't get how the dev can craft around mechanics like the phone and this clarity system, with all these other problems.
I'm not a patreon and don't know how he stands in contact with his patreons and what system he has on how his patreons can vote for stuff or not for basic feedback. This project somehow really feels disconnected from it's playerbase.
It's a shame too, because the concept and the framework seems pretty interesting.
- May 26, 2017
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It's a shame. Lab Rats 2 is one of my favourite porn games. But this clarity-feature is a huge setback. It's not only unneccessary, it is tedious and needs to be removed.
This game needs more clothing and it needs the fan mod to be a regular part of the game. Also the endgame is boring as fuck. Once you have enough money there is no challenge at all. This should be the main issue for the developer imho.
This game needs more clothing and it needs the fan mod to be a regular part of the game. Also the endgame is boring as fuck. Once you have enough money there is no challenge at all. This should be the main issue for the developer imho.
- Jan 18, 2020
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lol definately not one of those guys, theres just something uncanny about flying ghost sex. I think i need to specify more specifically that its the floating and lack of a penis that is weirding me out. (Given the option for chair or table, and the chick just floats there, feeling like im playing the porn version of the exorcist)
- Jul 26, 2017
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- Mar 25, 2019
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Blocking mods is news to me. We've been working on the mod for several years now and haven't had any issues. The latest release breaks up some of the files and so merging with the modded code base has been a pain, but it should be just a one time thing. I haven't seen any actual attempts in the code itself to block modding, so I'm not sure where that is coming from.
I dropped my patronage of the game after a number of patron releases that were unplayably buggy to the point where I could only imagine that they weren't even tested for the new content they were adding - the game would crash before you could even get that far. But now I'm not even sure I'm gonna keep up with the free releases.
Started a new game, did chargen, got to the office and...I can't even start on the most basic research projects until I manage to seduce someone? The company starts costing you money immediately, and the biggest difficulty in the game is the early stage where you're trying to get to profitable before the money runs out. And he thought the game needed extra roadblocks in that stage? It really, really didn't.
Started a new game, did chargen, got to the office and...I can't even start on the most basic research projects until I manage to seduce someone? The company starts costing you money immediately, and the biggest difficulty in the game is the early stage where you're trying to get to profitable before the money runs out. And he thought the game needed extra roadblocks in that stage? It really, really didn't.
- Jan 27, 2018
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OK. I'm going to wait to try this one again for a bit. The Clarity mechanic seems complicated, one of the most complicated changes I've seen in this game for a few years. And historically VRen's initial release of a new mechanic is buggy - perhaps even "very buggy". But I'm going to be willing to try it once its had some time to get the worst bugs ironed out.
As for the critiques on this. VRen was pretty upfront on what he intended this game to be from the start. It was an experiment to push development skills, to try to build a huge population of procedural generated npc, and see what happened. It reminds me very much of what Shadowstar used to do with Grrlpower and its "sequels". I've been fairly impressed with what he has pulled off actually. Sure the art isn't always super attractive (but it is better than it was, and for the most part much more realistic than most games). The lack of story is an issue but it was from the start and will likely be until the day it gets abandoned. I've never had the impression this was intended to be a great story game.
For the most part I've played this game without the mods because the mods tend to make a game that is already fairly easy even easier. I have been playing with mods for v38.1 just to see where they are now - and I do like the expanded stories and new characters. But that is great add on work by people willing to expand a game that isn't likely to see much story expansion on its own.
My take on the changes in v39.1 is that he wanted to add the new Clarity feature - which was a huge invasive multi-tentacled hentai rape monster on his code and he realized that future changes were going to get more and more difficult to implement. And so he restructured it. This will be a major pain in the ass of any modder who wants to mod it - for this release. But it may make future mods -after they restructure as well - easier to implement.
I'll have to wait till I actually try the Clarity mechanic before I can make an informed opinion on how much it changes the gameplay.
As for the critiques on this. VRen was pretty upfront on what he intended this game to be from the start. It was an experiment to push development skills, to try to build a huge population of procedural generated npc, and see what happened. It reminds me very much of what Shadowstar used to do with Grrlpower and its "sequels". I've been fairly impressed with what he has pulled off actually. Sure the art isn't always super attractive (but it is better than it was, and for the most part much more realistic than most games). The lack of story is an issue but it was from the start and will likely be until the day it gets abandoned. I've never had the impression this was intended to be a great story game.
For the most part I've played this game without the mods because the mods tend to make a game that is already fairly easy even easier. I have been playing with mods for v38.1 just to see where they are now - and I do like the expanded stories and new characters. But that is great add on work by people willing to expand a game that isn't likely to see much story expansion on its own.
My take on the changes in v39.1 is that he wanted to add the new Clarity feature - which was a huge invasive multi-tentacled hentai rape monster on his code and he realized that future changes were going to get more and more difficult to implement. And so he restructured it. This will be a major pain in the ass of any modder who wants to mod it - for this release. But it may make future mods -after they restructure as well - easier to implement.
I'll have to wait till I actually try the Clarity mechanic before I can make an informed opinion on how much it changes the gameplay.
- Jun 4, 2019
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To be fair the release is v0.39.1. Usually releases below a 1.0 is considered a beta release. So buyer beware.
The gameplay is fine, albeit a little more challenging more than the usual point and click, so I'm rather happy with it frankly. And getting the business profitable is rather a satisfying feeling.
I tried it and it was constantly giving errors while the version before i had none. What amazes me is that he released a version with so many errors, why? Would have been better if he just waited and left the one that was working until the next version a ready. i myself had 3 different types of errors. If he had run debug even once it most likely would have found those errors. Unless he released that version just for the sake of telling the patreons that he is working.
It was really only 4 or 5 bugs, granted those bugs were in critical sections of gameplay. And frankly those bugs were easy to miss.
Again, it is a v0 release, so heavy development is expected and things may not always work. This is part of software development, frankly. And a V0 release typically signifies a beta release anyway.