Ren'Py Abandoned Lab Rats 2 [v0.51.1] [Vren]

[Yurij]

That gamemod kept crashing for me each time I changed something in the code (like disableing the glasses), I had assumed they used some code checkers... also if you attempt to increase skill levels to 99 it crashes and if you raise them to 9 the game ignores those changes

I have successfully changed the slots and side effects chance for serums.

How did you try to disable the glasses. It works for me for random characters by removing this code from the file "helper_functions/random_generation_functions.rpy"

if renpy.random.randint(0,100) < age:
    #They need/want glasses.
    the_glasses = None
    if renpy.random.randint(0,100) < 50:
        the_glasses = modern_glasses.get_copy()
    else:
        the_glasses = big_glasses.get_copy()
    the_glasses.colour = Person.get_random_glasses_frame_colour()
    base_outfit.add_accessory(the_glasses)

Special characters with glasses is defined in these files

Remove lines containing "the_glasses" and in the file"world_setup_characters.rpy" all lines containing "glasses"


I was able to set skills to 99 by changing these in "major_game_classes/character_related/MainCharacter.rpy"

self.charisma = 99
self.int = 99
self.focus = 99

self.hr_skill = 99
self.market_skill = 99
self.research_skill = 99
self.production_skill = 99
self.supply_skill = 99

self.sex_skills["Foreplay"] = 99
self.sex_skills["Oral"] = 99
self.sex_skills["Vaginal"] = 99
self.sex_skills["Anal"] = 99

self.max_stats = 99
self.max_work_skills = 99
self.max_sex_skills = 99

 

[Evangelion-01]

I have successfully changed the slots and side effects chance for serums.

How did you try to disable the glasses. It works for me for random characters by removing this code from the file "helper_functions/random_generation_functions.rpy"

This is the wrong Thread for this... maybe PM me if you want more... just know that I searched that Thread and found an explanation on how to disable glasses and applied it... on game start an error popped up that the game was altered and wouldn't start anymore.
Useing Save editors the game refuses to load the save as it was tinkered with.

In the base game I have no problems with all this just to be clear

 

[DA22]

This is the wrong Thread for this... maybe PM me if you want more... just know that I searched that Thread and found an explanation on how to disable glasses and applied it... on game start an error popped up that the game was altered and wouldn't start anymore.
Useing Save editors the game refuses to load the save as it was tinkered with.

In the base game I have no problems with all this just to be clear

The save thing is a Renpy thing with newer versions, there is a separate thread with work arounds for that, not per se a mod thing. Considering glasses current mod has an option in mods to put on lasik surgery, where for some money you can have people remove glasses completely and get some love and happiness as well. No need to use console for that.

 

[dalzomo]

Oh so the game is abandoned. I wanted to like this game as I love the concept but the art and animation always put me off. Its clear the original developer is more of a coder than artist. Iv thought about making my own version of the game but didn't want to step on the developers toes. but if he is out of the picture...

lol shure buddy. glhf

 

[Evil Twin Skippy]

Use unren to unpack the rpa files

Oh, I just grab the "Beta" snapshot. All of the source code is in cleartext. I then build a fresh copy in the RenPy dev suite. I usually have to do that anyway because its 50:50 on whether the devs wrap the Mac version correctly or not.

 

[Yurij]

This is the wrong Thread for this... maybe PM me if you want more... just know that I searched that Thread and found an explanation on how to disable glasses and applied it... on game start an error popped up that the game was altered and wouldn't start anymore.
Useing Save editors the game refuses to load the save as it was tinkered with.

In the base game I have no problems with all this just to be clear

You could try the universal renpy mod, with it you can edit inside the game itself

 

[Evangelion-01]

DA22 and Yurij
I mean sure I COULD use third party tools to fix someone else problems... or I just walk away and play the base game instead... I keep an eye on the project but I can't recoment others to play this game at this point.

 

[Yurij]

DA22 and Yurij
I mean sure I COULD use third party tools to fix someone else problems... or I just walk away and play the base game instead... I keep an eye on the project but I can't recoment others to play this game at this point.

So because newer versions of renpy makes it harder to edit saves makes you unable to recommend a newer version of a game?

 

[DA22]

DA22 and Yurij
I mean sure I COULD use third party tools to fix someone else problems... or I just walk away and play the base game instead... I keep an eye on the project but I can't recoment others to play this game at this point.

The Renpy new version stopping saves with save editor you will see turn up in more and more new games and newer updates in games, so if that bothers you better take that feature out of renpy as devs have reasons to use the newer version as I understood for improvements that have nothing to do with that feature.

Remove glasses code does not work anymore in mod, since the mod has two options to deal with it and changed the code. one is lasik surgery and second is you can now modify the accessory setup of a char under option modify all clothes if set that on in the cheats, just as you can add makeup for a person or change it. The former modders and now devs made quite a few changes to code they already wanted to make for quite a few years (edit: seems to be a still ongoing process) and due to that some commands that work on the base game does not work on the reformulate version. That does not mean the options are not there anymore though and oftentimes way easier to use without having to go into the console even or the files of game itself.

 

[Evangelion-01]

So because newer versions of renpy makes it harder to edit saves makes you unable to recommend a newer version of a game?

A game that forces content on me that previously was easy to fix... yeah... a mod that refuses me to modify base values to make late game still entertaining and improve basic performance? Yes.
You guys seem far to involved with that mod attempting to become it's own game for my taste so I won't go any further than that.

The Renpy new version stopping saves with save editor you will see turn up in more and more new games and newer updates in games, so if that bothers you better take that feature out of renpy as devs have reasons to use the newer version as I understood for improvements that have nothing to do with that feature.

Remove glasses code does not work anymore in mod, since the mod has two options to deal with it and changed the code. one is lasik surgery and second is you can now modify the accessory setup of a char under option modify all clothes if set that on in the cheats, just as you can add makeup for a person or change it. The former modders and now devs made quite a few changes to code they already wanted to make for quite a few years (edit: seems to be a still ongoing process) and due to that some commands that work on the base game does not work on the reformulate version. That does not mean the options are not there anymore though and oftentimes way easier to use without having to go into the console even or the files of game itself.

It's not only the save games as I mentioned... are you guys part of the Mods Development team that you feel so attacked by me giving negative feedback?

 

[DA22]

A game that forces content on me that previously was easy to fix... yeah... a mod that refuses me to modify base values to make late game still entertaining and improve basic performance? Yes.
You guys seem far to involved with that mod attempting to become it's own game for my taste so I won't go any further than that.

It's not only the save games as I mentioned... are you guys part of the Mods Development team that you feel so attacked by me giving negative feedback?

Nope, more surprised since a few of those choices were already vrens and the others you can actually change even more easily in the modded version nowadays then ever could in the base game, without having to use console or change game files. (Yes since new devs did change code and also optimized file structure it might take you a bit longer to find those game files if used to old base game though, since they are at different places)

Now if you complained about the new pregnancy system I would get it or gameplay choices new devs made, since some you might like better as others. The savegame problem would have been same though if Vren would have been still around or ever gets back and updated base game to newest renpy version. It is a Renpy feature and has nothing to do with the modded game except that it is also in latest renpy version.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Nope, more surprised since a few of those choices were already vrens and the others you can actually change even more easily in the modded version nowadays then ever could in the base game, without having to use console or change game files. (Yes since new devs did change code and also optimized file structure it might take you a bit longer to find those game files if used to old base game though)

Now if you complained about the new pregnancy system I would get it or gameplay choices new devs made, since some you might like better as others. The savegame problem would have been same though if Vren would have been still around or ever gets back and updated base game to newest renpy version. It is a Renpy feature and has nothing to do with the modded game except that it is also in latest renpy version.

I haven't seen any difference in basic gameplay in between mod and base game... all I see is different graphics and additional Stories with respective unique Characters.
It would have been interesting in those regards but the aformentioned points make the mod less appealing than the unfinished base game.

 

[DA22]

I haven't seen any difference in basic gameplay in between mod and base game... all I see is different graphics and additional Stories with respective unique Characters.
It would have been interesting in those regards but the aformentioned points make the mod less appealing than the unfinished base game.

The save game thing can be circumvented though, there is a thread about how to turn it off in these forums so save game editor online and others work again, since that problem is more and more common the more games are updated to the newest renpy version. The console commands are gone though in some cases, though possibly on the discord there are people who can tell you how to do same with newer commands, I gladly use the newer options in game though and only use commands if want to add a mother or daughter to unique character or such.

 

[Evangelion-01]

The save game thing can be circumvented though, there is a thread about how to turn it off in these forums so save game editor online and others work again, since that problem is more and more common the more games are updated to the newest renpy version. The console commands are gone though in some cases, though possibly on the discord there are people who can tell you how to do same with newer commands, I gladly use the newer options in game though and only use commands if want to add a mother or daughter to unique character or such.

I still checked the Save game modification won't take any effect with the maximum values for energy and Stats.
The game itself hardcoded the limit to 200 / 8.
Even if you never max stats out and energy recharge is barely around 120 a day I prefer to atleast set the limits to 900 / 99 since that way you can complete goals and get a noteable reward... plus MC can't get outclassed by his employees that easily

 

[DA22]

I still checked the Save game modification won't take any effect with the maximum values for energy and Stats.
The game itself hardcoded the limit to 200 / 8.
Even if you never max stats out and energy recharge is barely around 120 a day I prefer to atleast set the limits to 900 / 99 since that way you can complete goals and get a noteable reward... plus MC can't get outclassed by his employees that easily

Lol my stats are at 32 each and energy at 800 in modded game Max energy in modded games with just inbuild cheats is 400 though and stats 20 if remember right and with save editor as high as you want. energy just does not recharge over 400 without sleep. Then if get personal serums from Ashley you never reach 0 again if use right ones I suspect it is more a lack of knowledge of options in modded game for you. You did up both energy and max energy in save editor, same also upped the max stats values?

 

[Evangelion-01]

Lol my stats are at 32 each and energy at 800 in modded game Max energy in modded games with just inbuild cheats is 400 though and with save editor as high as you want. energy just does not recharge over 400 without sleep. Then if get personal serums from Ashley you never reach 0 again if use right ones I suspect it is more a lack of knowledge of options in modded game for you. You did up both energy and max energy in save editor, same also upped to max stats values?

Tried it both in the game files and the save file... yes.
99 in Stats caused several errors and 9 kept being ignored and 8 was the set limit... for energy 900 didn't cause any errors but the game still limited to 200

 

[DA22]

Tried it both in the game files and the save file... yes.
99 in Stats caused several errors and 9 kept being ignored and 8 was the set limit... for energy 900 didn't cause any errors but the game still limited to 200

That is weird, 99 might be too high but as I said even without save editor, just with inbuild cheats you can set the stats to 20-25 and energy and max energy to 400 for MC and girls and energy def rebuilds to that max every day. With save editor can go even higher but 99 stats might be too high indeed. Inbuild cheats are right bottom, next to opinions, I last played the 09-23 version as published here on F95, not latest development version.

Also have a look at mod configuration in your bedroom as can set loads of the extra options of mods there or keep closer to original base game. if downloaded and installed some extra mods on the modded version you can also set them partly on and off there.

 

[Evangelion-01]

That is weird, 99 might be too high but as I said even without save editor, just with inbuild cheats you can set the stats to 20-25 and energy and max energy to 400 for MC and girls and energy def rebuilds to that max every day. With save editor can go even higher but 99 stats might be too high indeed. Inbuild cheats are right bottom, next to opinions, I last played the 09-23 version as published here on F95, not latest development version.

Also have a look at mod configuration in your bedroom as can set loads of the extra options of mods there or keep closer to original base game. if downloaded and installed some extra mods on the modded version you can also set them partly on and off there.

I don't recall the Version I played but it was recently... the game buged out as soon as stats got 2 digit (I checked with 10 to be sure)... sure I avoided cheats as a game that is only fun with cheats is certainly mispaced.

 

[DA22]

I don't recall the Version I played but it was recently... the game buged out as soon as stats got 2 digit (I checked with 10 to be sure)... sure I avoided cheats as a game that is only fun with cheats is certainly mispaced.

Well you are free to use whatever cheats you want or not, but yeah then what is difference between upping your stats in save editor or the cheat option? Still weird since I played the modded version quite a lot. I normally just enter name, company name, then use the points and pass over prologue and then use cheats to setup mc and main girls as i want them or make a save and edit the values. There might be a problem if try to cheat stats before or during prologue as characters are created I think after you put in your name and points.

 

[dalzomo]

Changing skills to too high a value causes the infinitely recurring crash error because of the way it increases arousal. Vren didn't code a failsafe into the calculation because he expected players to play the game normally or use the cheats he recently added, which limited the skills. 99 is overkill, so I recommend settling at a lower value. Try 50s, and if that still results in a crash go lower until it doesn't. That's not a mod thing. I think some attempt has been made in the mod to prevent that crash, but that's not me endorsing it. As for stamina, I don't believe there's any problem raising that as high as you want

I don't use the mod either. I dislike the cruft. I dislike the added characters and their mandatory stories if you wish to sex them. I dislike the alteration of the game's mechanics and the restriction of sex acts due to opinions when the premise of the game is to overcome every woman's inhibitions through dosing. I dislike the genre-crossing invasion of nano-machines (son) and cloning. This is a game about being a date-rape drug czar, not every other sort of mad scientist. I dislike how many of its players are attempting to rebrand the mod into "a newer version of the game" when it is a spin-off. Note I didn't say "just a spin-off", because it's bigger than "just." It's got a lot of content. That makes it bigger, not necessarily better. But what I dislike most of all are the evangelists who think there's something wrong with disliking the mod

BUT, I don't lump DA22 in the zealots crowd. He's enthusiastic about the mod, and inclined towards helpfulness in my experience

Does the mod's standalone bugfix still require the renpy update?