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Rat-attack

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I'm_fine. well it isn't open source and as far as I know it's not possible to make it open source currently so anyone wanting to do a restart so would have to completely clean. It would not be an easy task....plus as this Dev claims that they are still working on it and from how they reacted to a translation mod being made....I wouldn't be surprised if the Dev attempts to claim copyright or something against whomever attempts to do so.

So doubt an exact copy will be made....maybe a reskin instead if someone with the skills and time decides to do so.

Edit: Barely any game engines make it so the games packaged up/made from them can be opened up even partially to the same degree as how the developer had them shown to them during their development process. As a result modding games are usually done by using programs that essentially hack the games and allow you to do nearly open heart surgery on them while maybe blind or with no assistance. As with and you get a nice fairly customizable setup and display of roughly what the game looks like from multiple perspectives and an windows file explorer layout of the assets and code files that you can edit right away with standard coding software tool that can auto complete code or point out errors. The only biggest exception to this is Twine I believe since I've been able to put it and all the files back into Twine and pretty much work flawlessly to edit it all. I believe that as a result anyone whom mods a (non-Twine) game past an certain extent should have enough experience to attempt to make their own Very short game to see if they fancy and can deal with the extra work that can come with it all.
 
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Which is why voting with your wallet is key these days, e.g. as I just realized today that Subverse early access was set for only a year....back in 2021, still not done and massively slowed progress and communication it seems, so I'm glad I still haven't purchased it as I would have been very disappointed with myself for buying before it was done and instead just because of hype and promises.
 

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Which is why voting with your wallet is key these days, e.g. as I just realized today that Subverse early access was set for only a year....back in 2021, still not done and massively slowed progress and communication it seems, so I'm glad I still haven't purchased it as I would have been very disappointed with myself for buying before it was done and instead just because of hype and promises.
I know for sure that each member of the Subverse development team receive several hundred dollars per one day, so if I were one of them, I would sit in the same way for 50 years and make one animation, lining my pockets with stacks of bucks.
 

Takku

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It's sad to hear what happened to the dev. I only found the game recently, and my heart sank when I saw the abandoned tag.

This game has such good animations, and the internal views are *chef's kiss*. I honestly feel like this game ruined other H-games for me, making me long for the same animation quality and internal views this game provides.

IF the dev decides to drop the project completely, I sure hope he/she passes it on, or makes it open source, so others can learn and build from it.

I sincerely hope the dev gets well soon, both physically and mentally. And finds peace at last!
 

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I severely doubt that the dev will make the project open source or pass it on as it's already rarely done as far as I've seen of projects having that done. Add in how this dev has been in the past when people attempted to make the project better......I'mma put a big negative multiplier on the chance of it occurring for this one.

The game's quality is absurdly high (I keep stealing from the shopkeeper hoping for that time to be the time where I unlock her as an enemy) compared to others and has made me raise my expectations for what I end up keeping as a result which does mean that my hard drives hate me less for feeding them less like pigs.
 

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Are there any other games out there like this one? i really enjoyed the game and femdom is ma thing so i would really like to know if there are any other games out there like this one (with animated scenes) (probably not)
 
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Are there any other games out there like this one? i really enjoyed the game and femdom is ma thing so i would really like to know if there are any other games out there like this one (with animated scenes) (probably not)
Other onee-shota soft femdom games with fluid gameplay and great animated h-scenes? You can pick only two and even this is asking for much.
 

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There is no triple A level H game industry.....only unfinished aspirations that could have been the start of one. It's very hard to make games of a certain quality that aren't H games so adding in that aspect which requires a bunch of animation work and such....it's no wonder there's so many HTML/Ren'py/VN games which use clipped videos/gif/pictures with slight edits. (some of which are very good)
 
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hmtot

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There is no triple A level H game industry.....only unfinished aspirations that could have been the start of one. It's very hard to make games of a certain quality that aren't H games so adding in that aspect which requires a bunch of animation work and such....it's no wonder there's so many HTML/Ren'py/VN games which use clipped videos/gif/pictures with slight edits. (some of which are very good)
Japan most certainly have a AAA H game industry.
 

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hmtot your by far welcome to prove me wrong by DM'ing me a list of games that fit the bill although.....I was meaning that there is no overall AAA H-game industry not that a specific country doesn't.
 

hmtot

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hmtot your by far welcome to prove me wrong by DM'ing me a list of games that fit the bill although.....I was meaning that there is no overall AAA H-game industry not that a specific country doesn't.
What you you mean, "overall"? It just seems like you're moving the goalpost at this point. Koikatsu and SchoolMate are pretty easy examples of a AAA H game. These games are not vastly known in the west because porn is a taboo, but a LOT of money was spend in them and they are huge in Japan. Some of them have their own engine, too.
 

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What you you mean, "overall"? It just seems like you're moving the goalpost at this point. Koikatsu and SchoolMate are pretty easy examples of a AAA H game. These games are not vastly known in the west because porn is a taboo, but a LOT of money was spend in them and they are huge in Japan. Some of them have their own engine, too.
What is AAA H game even supposed to be in this discussion? Depending on the interpretation, both of you and Rat-Attack could be right. If AAA H games are H games with higher development cost and quality than the average H games then there are AAA H games out there and studio specifically developing them both in japan and outside of japan.

If we use non H game standard as comparison however, then Rat-attack is right. While games like Koikatsu and SchoolMate cost a lot of time and money to develop, they're nothing compared to non-H AAA games.
 
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Rat-attack

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Rosswel My quoted comment was in response to someone asking if another game with similar quality to this exists where I mentioned AAA H-game since the graphical quality is top notch. However it wasn't intended to start a discussion about industry stuff which is why I said for hmtot to DM me as I question how it relates to this game as that point and even now. (I've never heard of Koikatsu and SchoolMate and could only find SchoolMate on here with barely any reviews and short threads)

Also I do feel that using what is already established as being AAA non-H game industry is the right comparison since if a H-game did well enough then it would show then of how it's a step above the rest. (Subverse had the makings of it but has floundered since I feel despite good graphical design and marketing, the gameplay+development stuff killed all that momentum and expectations for being it)

The question has been asked previously about it and well the answer has been fairly clear, here's some links to stuff I found from a quick google search:
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Anyway I won't be responding about this any further here since there is discussions on this site about this already where this can be talked about, or you can make your own.
 
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hmtot

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What is AAA H game even supposed to be in this discussion? Depending on the interpretation, both of you and Rat-Attack could be right. If AAA H games are H games with higher development cost and quality than the average H games then there are AAA H games out there and studio specifically developing them both in japan and outside of japan.

If we use non H game standard as comparison however, then Rat-attack is right. While games like Koikatsu and SchoolMate cost a lot of time and money to develop, they're nothing compared to non-H AAA games.
I can easily disprove that with an example. What were AAA games 20 years ago? The AAA H games I mentioned are more popular than many considered AAA games long ago. You can't compare an industry to another, we're talking about H games, so we shouldn't use non-H games, and its hundred of billions dollars industry.
But then again, we're discussing semantics here. My point here was to disagree with the statement "There is no triple A level H game industry.....only unfinished aspirations that could have been the start of one. ", which in my opinion, is just an ignorant statement, especially considering the relative size of the industry in Japan. The only reason the absolute numbers don't compare to non-H games is because porn is taboo in the west (to be honest, everywhere else in the world), so the comparison, and using non-H games as a way to disprove my statement that there are AAA H games is extremely dishonest.
We're biased for living in the west, but 'sex sells', and the porn industry is underrated. If you search Koikatsu or Honey select development cost, or Illusion net worth before closing down, you'll see how it's not so far from other AAA japanese games, especially considering not only the taboo and piracy, but how some games aren't even allowed to be sold outside Japan.
Either way, I don't think I'll be able to have a healthy and productive discussion with Rat-attack, nor do I desire to do so, I kinda know how conversations usually go with these people. But if you want to keep the discussion going, I'll be glad to respond.
 
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Rosswel

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I can easily disprove that with an example. What were AAA games 20 years ago? The AAA H games I mentioned are more popular than many considered AAA games long ago. You can't compare an industry to another, we're talking about H games, so we shouldn't use non-H games, and its hundred of billions dollars industry.
But then again, we're discussing semantics here. My point here was to disagree with the statement "There is no triple A level H game industry.....only unfinished aspirations that could have been the start of one. ", which in my opinion, is just an ignorant statement, especially considering the relative size of the industry in Japan. The only reason the absolute numbers don't compare to non-H games is because porn is taboo in the west (to be honest, everywhere else in the world), so the comparison, and using non-H games as a way to disprove my statement that there are AAA H games is extremely dishonest.
We're biased for living in the west, but 'sex sells', and the porn industry is underrated. If you search Koikatsu or Honey select development cost, or Illusion net worth before closing down, you'll see how it's not so far from other AAA japanese games, especially considering not only the taboo and piracy, but how some games aren't even allowed to be sold outside Japan.
Either way, I don't think I'll be able to have a healthy and productive discussion with Rat-attack, nor do I desire to do so, I kinda know how conversations usually go with these people. But if you want to keep the discussion going, I'll be glad to respond.
It seems to me that all of this discussion boils down to both of you having different perceptive on what a AAA H game is supposed to be. With all due respect however, I feel like you already have bad prejudice on Rat-attack's opinion
 

hmtot

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It seems to me that all of this discussion boils down to both of you having different perceptive on what a AAA H game is supposed to be. With all due respect however, I feel like you already have bad prejudice on Rat-attack's opinion
Yes, we already established that and I explained my point of view. I also explained how it's not exclusively about semantics.
 
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