Yotsuyu

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So the only way to see some hentai action is to get cucked by the king or the enemy? u cant fuck the girls by yourself?
This game makes you work for your vanilla. You can get with the girls yourself but, you need to actively protect them from the ntr elements like the King wanting them for his harem or making sure they aren't defeated by the enemy. Don't think there was a harem ending though. You have to hit certain flags for different girls routes.

Funny, I remember one of the Rance games had a scenario where if you refuse or fail to help one of the girls, she relunctantly sleep with another guy in order to get his help, and the NTR ragers were absolutely livid over this cuz they saw it as "NTR." This is despite the fact that Rance himself "cheats" on ALL the girls and bangs anything that has a hole just cuz he feels like it; self-centered hypocrisy much?
Lol, ntr ragers only care about their own personal harem. Cheating isn't cheating if they're the one doing it. Then it's called adding to the harem ;P Ironically enough it actually makes them very similar to Rance himself in that regard lol.

Speaking of Rance, I never could stand those games for that reason. Rance is just the absolute worst as a character, can't tolerate him at all. Which is a shame since alicesoft can make some fun games. Big Bang Age was totally over the top nonsense but, it was rather fun with a lot of replayablility.
 

JorgeFFC

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For the ones who asked, there are many sub genres within "NTR"...
- Netorare
Is the cruel one, or the one u take pity or see the side of the one being cucked and his suffering. Some people still got the trauma of the animation Otome Dori or from Thug Hero Party(will be released in 2 days as official translation unscensored by KaguraGames, even if the game was translated a long time ago, it was an agreement with the creator so they could release his other games later on). Normally in this, the MC don't even see the date his girl was stolen or isn't even aware, and tends to tragically meet a scenery where he goes all happy to the girl house and gets them in action, or the guy uses the girl Cellphone to send him messages/talk while mid-sex. This is actually the most common one in Doujins and games.

- Netorasare
The guy is aware the woman is cheating on him and he feels excited by it. He even agrees or make deals with others willing(even behind their partners back). There are some people in the world with this strange fetish that can't get a hard on unless it's such a situation... they literally prostitute their woman or something. So... a different category within the netorare.

- Netori
Same as the cruel one, however instead of being the guy cucked, u're the one doing the cuck. Literally most Rance games when have ntr content, it's him stealing other girls or in general, the thing from the point of view of the group of old man on Otome Dori series.

I don't know if it has a 4th, but i guess those 3 are the main lines within the NTR world and many mangas or games follows those. A girl can also netori a guy out of a friend or something so it's valid for both genders... Vanilla all the time is also not that good in my opinion, the variation of fetishes(Anal, BSDM, NTR, etc) is pretty much what most go for. Some even go to Scat(literally girls shitting on screen) or Guro(destroyed mangles or zombie sex..) people are strange in this kind of department hahahaha.
 
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JorgeFFC

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Now that this one was translated, waiting for the hero who will translate the "How to train your slaves - Dark Empire" game, or Oyakko Rankan.
How to Train ur slaves was a simulation on free world with events, rpg systems, levelling and also... town building. It's similar to Dungeon City or something like this.

Oyakko Rankan was a game where a boy was adopted within a family and trained as a buttler, he grew up with the 2 daughters of the house but the house inheritor died, and they needed a new kid around. Thus people aiming to having the fortune, mansion, name, etc starts going for the Mother and the girls. That had a cool system where u could protect the girls or do events that amplified their love and they defended themselves with hearts... but it mostly failed anyway since u got to protect 3, and even if 1 of them gets pregnant, it's game over. After normal end with a one of the girls, u get the partnership of another maid on the house who helps defending 2 and alternating... it's an interesting visual novel but well... never was translated by any group nor selected yet... i was hoping Mangagamer picked this one though.
 

JorgeFFC

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So , when there are hentai scene ? After take diamond city ? after 2.3hours of game only 1 scene
The intro is very long, he is called a traitor, hunted, go to the island and whatever. Game only starts after u reach the stone in the middle of the map and they kill the next king, then Baroque(next in line) takes. At the end of this chapter, if u failed to fill loyalty with the girls he already starts stealing some. It depends on how u play and then hentai just happens... if u don't meet his requirements, he will start picking the girls, enemies can also take the ones they beat. Well, it's up to you if u're around only for the hentai... sacrifice the girls to the mobs and wait, wait the King gets pissed without any action and then watch him slowly take the girls... whatever is up to you.
 

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The intro is very long, he is called a traitor, hunted, go to the island and whatever. Game only starts after u reach the stone in the middle of the map and they kill the next king, then Baroque(next in line) takes. At the end of this chapter, if u failed to fill loyalty with the girls he already starts stealing some. It depends on how u play and then hentai just happens... if u don't meet his requirements, he will start picking the girls, enemies can also take the ones they beat. Well, it's up to you if u're around only for the hentai... sacrifice the girls to the mobs and wait, wait the King gets pissed without any action and then watch him slowly take the girls... whatever is up to you.
Stone middle of the map ? You means The Diamondcity ?
 
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JorgeFFC

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Stone middle of the map ? You means The Diamondcity ?
I think so, the action starts right after the rightful king dies... the one he meets while defending Seria on the fishing town during the introduction and accepts as a possible king, then move to save Baroque but is killed by the Hippies Kingdom guys. The intro changes depending on the faction u pick as starter... the loyalty value of each character and king satisfaction are likely the most important numbers for events to happen. If want to cuckoldry to heavy appear, don't boost the king harem, don't build projects, ignore his orders and literally just wait him taking girl per girl out of ur commanders. For more scenes variation, conquer the map on the areas out of the other girls showed in the intro... just that.
 

Destriss

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I think so, the action starts right after the rightful king dies... the one he meets while defending Seria on the fishing town during the introduction and accepts as a possible king, then move to save Baroque but is killed by the Hippies Kingdom guys. The intro changes depending on the faction u pick as starter... the loyalty value of each character and king satisfaction are likely the most important numbers for events to happen. If want to cuckoldry to heavy appear, don't boost the king harem, don't build projects, ignore his orders and literally just wait him taking girl per girl out of ur commanders. For more scenes variation, conquer the map on the areas out of the other girls showed in the intro... just that.

Hum ok thank you ! Its a shame we cant skip game intro ... very long
 

Dodododo105

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Thank you very much for the clarification and info(y)

I guess I will give it a replay then since it is quite unique to have a NTR game where you can avoid the NTR! Don't get me wrong I actually enjoy some NTR games so I didn't come here to moan about NTR in a NTR focused game lol! I just didn't understand why the MC would put up with this shit because he was already a rebel before so why not go full rebel when you get a douche for a king ;)
it's fine. SLG h-games are really fun. this one gets into a really satisfying feedback loop avoiding the ntr while conquering all the countries very quickly for me. this one is really fun even without the porn.

their inheritance system is literally magic and they don't know any other heirs after the good guy died and the scum inherits. the only heirs are the scum's kids. they also immediately get in to a war after the good guy dies and the scum inherits, so starting a civil war then wouldn't be a good idea.

so some tips here.

firstly, if you don't want to see any NTR at all, here are some warnings. during the first act, if you start as Leane's faction, don't conquer the wizard kingdom in the north nor conquering Leane's faction if you start as the wizard kingdom. there is a married character in the north faction whom will be raped/coerced into an affair when placed on to the same location as one of the pirate characters. it's not the MC getting NTR'd, but it is technically NTR. you can recruit both of them in act 2. it's just that the transition between act 1 and 2 will place your characters all in the same city which will activate the event automatically.

secondly, leane's faction gets a mandatory near-NTR event where one of the guys tries to seduce one of the girls. he only gets as far as groping before the MC interrupts, but it does happen. there is also a brief voyeurism scene with wendy and a guy in the wizard route, but it's not NTR since she's single and not a route the MC can go down.

thirdly, keep a weaker character behind and keep building the "harem" building up to level 5 in the city where the king is and in all cities immediately connected to the city where the king is. that will sate his lust with generic concubines instead of the regular girls. you'll also need to rush to the goldmines to pay for the buildings as well as his demanded budget without risking losing too much money. you can demand that his budget be cut, but keep his irritation number above his head below 1000 as that's when he will start demanding more girls. if he begins to want a girl, the sister will be the first one he demands, though you can withdraw her from the harem by the end of the timelimit before he does anything to her. the sister isn't a love route, but she did come off as a bit of a brocon when i played the japanese version with a text extractor.

finally, when you enter act 2, have Ares take time to explore every city, town and cave. a lot of them will have hidden items, recruitable characters, hidden classes, or hidden routes.
 
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riiii

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is there anyway someone got a save wherein we'll start after the intro(taking over diamond city)?
 

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Interestingly enough all those Orange Piece games you are translating are a good example of being NTR games but without having the despair element as generally they are all more NETORI games since you play as the female most of the time and you never to my knowledge get to play as the husband who is getting cucked... It is such a strange genre with many nuances which is why many have been petitioning to have some of it's sub genres as tags due to the use of just the NTR tag instantly causing a huge argument. For example many games here at F95 that have you stealing another persons love interest actually fall under the tag NETORI but such games don't add the NTR tag due to peoples reactions.

Anyway I am myself now guilty of talking too much about NTR and what it is and isn't so I will stop and go enjoy this game now since the translation is pretty good and I now know I can have a NTR free experience if I am careful! I admit that while I like some NTR games (like Shadowcore) I would be unable to enjoy this games NTR as the idea of playing a long full out strategy game to benefit some douche King in building his harem out of the girls I am close to annoys me!
Haha yeah, working for a douche King can be quite irritating. Tbh, my favorite kind of NTR are ones that focus on 'Comedy', not 'Tragedy', such as "Mischief War" (haha I loved every second of this NTR hgame), and where the netori guys are not full-on assholes, but still assholes neverthless. The current Orange Piece hgame that I'm slowly translating got a bit of an interesting netori guy who is not a full-on dick (but still a dick neverthless), followed by a good cheating build up with the heroine (While the NTR initiation was still pretty soon and forced, the stealer at least didn't go right to the sex, so it takes a while to get to the actual sex scenes, which is good).
 
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Oyakko Rankan [is] a game where a boy [gets] adopted [into] a [wealthy] family and trained as a [butler.] He [grows] up with the 2 daughters of the house but the [next heir dies], and they [need] a new [one]. Thus, people aiming [for] the [family] fortune/mansion/name/etc start going [after] the mother and the girls. That [has] a cool system where you could protect the girls or do events that [amplify] their love and they [defend] themselves with hearts ... but it mostly [fails] anyway since you [have] to protect 3, and even if 1 of them [gets] pregnant, it's game over.
You don't actually have to protect all 3. I recall playing the game with a partial and, as long as you don't go after her yourself, the younger daughter is left alone. Also,
You get [to partner up with one of the family's] maid ... who [can help you protect them].
Yukiko (why do I remember her name?) makes avoiding the NTR much easier, since you can have her, for instance, guard the mother while you send the player character to impregnate the older daughter.
 
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Destriss

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I have an error and crash after first scene with seria and The king . Anyone has the same and a solution ?
 
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Anyhole

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So, does the MC knock up any of the girls or is the whole pregnancy and birthing thing exclusive to the CucKing?
 
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it's fine. SLG h-games are really fun. this one gets into a really satisfying feedback loop avoiding the ntr while conquering all the countries very quickly for me. this one is really fun even without the porn.

their inheritance system is literally magic and they don't know any other heirs after the good guy died and the scum inherits. the only heirs are the scum's kids. they also immediately get in to a war after the good guy dies and the scum inherits, so starting a civil war then wouldn't be a good idea.

so some tips here.

firstly, if you don't want to see any NTR at all, here are some warnings. during the first act, if you start as Leane's faction, don't conquer the wizard kingdom in the north nor conquering Leane's faction if you start as the wizard kingdom. there is a married character in the north faction whom will be raped/coerced into an affair when placed on to the same location as one of the pirate characters. it's not the MC getting NTR'd, but it is technically NTR. you can recruit both of them in act 2. it's just that the transition between act 1 and 2 will place your characters all in the same city which will activate the event automatically.

secondly, leane's faction gets a mandatory near-NTR event where one of the guys tries to seduce one of the girls. he only gets as far as groping before the MC interrupts, but it does happen. there is also a brief voyeurism scene with wendy and a guy in the wizard route, but it's not NTR since she's single and not a route the MC can go down.

thirdly, keep a weaker character behind and keep building the "harem" building up to level 5 in the city where the king is and in all cities immediately connected to the city where the king is. that will sate his lust with generic concubines instead of the regular girls. you'll also need to rush to the goldmines to pay for the buildings as well as his demanded budget without risking losing too much money. you can demand that his budget be cut, but keep his irritation number above his head below 1000 as that's when he will start demanding more girls. if he begins to want a girl, the sister will be the first one he demands, though you can withdraw her from the harem by the end of the timelimit before he does anything to her. the sister isn't a love route, but she did come off as a bit of a brocon when i played the japanese version with a text extractor.

finally, when you enter act 2, have Ares take time to explore every city, town and cave. a lot of them will have hidden items, recruitable characters, hidden classes, or hidden routes.
You are a gentleman (y) :cool: Thanks again for the heads up as those events you described would annoy me now that the game is translated well! I started with the Wizard faction so from what you have said I should be fine so long as I leave the Leane faction till last? So the best choice of factions to not have any NTR is to save the knight faction till last?
 
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