VN Ren'Py Completed Leap of Faith [Ch. 8 v1.0.3] [DriftyGames]

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

So... no harem pregnancy end?

As you can see from the op, there is no "harem" tag, and while some here would like it to be, I don't think Drifty would go that route. But, maybe I'm wrong, who knows for sure?. We'll see when his next game comes out. Anyway, not in LoF. It wouldn't fit in such a game, or so I think. Only a few MFFs are possible. There's pregnancy too, but I won't spoil the fun of finding out with who

♂

 

[hampsure]

Your feeling is very clear, and I understand that from an outside point of view, the sight of all these events and people who bind to each other through the destiny of one, or two antagonists, can seem a little far fetched in a certain way. But again, I think that this perception depends a lot on everyone's experience, and especially whether or not we are aware of the links between each thing, event, person.

To step back a bit, I do just want to note that it's quite standard to have a couple (or at least very small amount) of central characters that either drive a story forward or are the glue that holds things together and that those character are obviously more fleshed out. This is pretty common in most story telling mediums and I feel actually resonates well with how real life events unfold. When I think back, there have been portions of my own life where myself and another person served as the glue that brought a group of people together and drove forward a lot of the events that happened. At the same time I'm well aware that other stories from my life I was one of the less fleshed out characters in events largely driven by others. All of it has meaning though, even when we are just "drowning in the pools of other lives" to quote a

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The links between us all and fate itself are indeed a funny thing. I know I've spent my fair share of time thinking about them in the context of my own life. Time and memory are also odd that way in that thinking back it can feel like small portions of our lives, such as a special summer (like in this game - or for me, one or two I had in college), lasted longer than other much longer actual time periods in our lives - particularly as we get older. This is why I felt a short period of time worked well in the context of this story but may not do as well in others.

Whether these things work well in an AVN format is really down to execution and I've still only completed Cece's route thus far so I don't have an opinion on how well it does here... admittedly though for me I'm personally fine with the rest being filling in the holes (no pun intended, I swear... I have no idea why I wrote holes instead of blanks but now it's staying) rather than completely different stories based on the path chosen. The fact that this has a really strong story is really head and shoulders above a lot of other games I've played multiple routes on where the overall story largely plays out the same way and often my favorite character isn't as integral to the plot as others but it doesn't feel like it's as big of a deal because the story itself isn't meaningful enough for that distinction to be impactful. Having any canonical ending is bound to ruffle some feathers, but at least it's better than not having other romantic paths/endings at all which can be really frustrating in other story telling mediums.

Okay, now if everyone could refrain from having interesting discussions that I don't have time to participate in properly (but really want to) during my work week, that'd be great.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Thank you... Thank you soo much for your beautiful story and comment. I have a lot more to tell myself but I wouldn't want to put another wall of text here to possibly bother everyone else. I will say this, experience is definitely a key factor in how we view and analyze things... just like you said. I myself am a 27-year-old man whose big passion was writing a story. It could've been a game, book or even a movie. But some things stay only as your passion due to not having the ability to make them happen. Studied graphic design in high school... never actually learnt coding or graphic designing, studied English literature in university... never actually had the chance to have a legitimate job, studying and doing my master's on communication sciences... don't really know where it'll go. You never know how things will unfold. And this is me, simplifying things. Again, thank you so much for your comment.

Hi. Well I see that Minou took the lead in responding to your post. I couldn't say better than what she wrote.
I see that you are still studying and in a very complicated subject, like psychology, which Minou and I studied together at university.
And again, about destiny, I had chosen this path after studying technological sciences, after the loss of my little sister, which led me to the United States and to meeting Minou. It is more than certainly for this reason that this game, LoF, we liked and marked so much.
I think Drifty really wanted to highlight all those links that connect each "thing" and that we don't pay attention to most of the time, either by not wanting to see them, or simply because we can only connect the nodes more late in the futur, when you sit down for a moment and ask yourself "how did this all happen?".
like you say, we never know where things will go. All we can control is to move forward trying to make the choices that feel right and appropriate. Whether we did the good or the bad choices, only time can tell. Who could have said that by going from technological studies to study psychology, I would end up becoming a photographer? It was certainly a passion, but I have many others... Or even, that I would debate psychology and communication around a "heroic" game, me in France getting ready to leave to do my work in the usa, with a guy who lives in Turkey?
Have a nice day

♂

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

To step back a bit, I do just want to note that it's quite standard to have a couple (or at least very small amount) of central characters that either drive a story forward or are the glue that holds things together and that those character are obviously more fleshed out. This is pretty common in most story telling mediums and I feel actually resonates well with how real life events unfold. When I think back, there have been portions of my own life where myself and another person served as the glue that brought a group of people together and drove forward a lot of the events that happened. At the same time I'm well aware that other stories from my life I was one of the less fleshed out characters in events largely driven by others. All of it has meaning though, even when we are just "drowning in the pools of other lives" to quote a

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.

The links between us all and fate itself are indeed a funny thing. I know I've spent my fair share of time thinking about them in the context of my own life. Time and memory are also odd that way in that thinking back it can feel like small portions of our lives, such as a special summer (like in this game - or for me, one or two I had in college), lasted longer than other much longer actual time periods in our lives - particularly as we get older. This is why I felt a short period of time worked well in the context of this story but may not do as well in others.

Whether these things work well in an AVN format is really down to execution and I've still only completed Cece's route thus far so I don't have an opinion on how well it does here... admittedly though for me I'm personally fine with the rest being filling in the holes (no pun intended, I swear... I have no idea why I wrote holes instead of blanks but now it's staying) rather than completely different stories based on the path chosen. The fact that this has a really strong story is really head and shoulders above a lot of other games I've played multiple routes on where the overall story largely plays out the same way and often my favorite character isn't as integral to the plot as others but it doesn't feel like it's as big of a deal because the story itself isn't meaningful enough for that distinction to be impactful. Having any canonical ending is bound to ruffle some feathers, but at least it's better than not having other romantic paths/endings at all which can be really frustrating in other story telling mediums.

Okay, now if everyone could refrain from having interesting discussions that I don't have time to participate in properly (but really want to) during my work week, that'd be great.

As you can imagine, there are two of us, me and my little wife, having a hard time restricting ourselves to making small comments. I can't speak for the others with certainty, but I don't think we're the only ones, as far as I can read on this thread.
Maybe we should open an independent thread to have a blast in our debates

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[hampsure]

As you can imagine, there are two of us, me and my little wife, having a hard time restricting ourselves to making small comments. I can't speak for the others with certainty, but I don't think we're the only ones, as far as I can read on this thread.
Maybe we should open an independent thread to have a blast in our debates

Hehe, I was just kidding, I love the discussions that go on in this thread in whether they're related to the game or complete tangents (and whether I have time to join in or not) so by all means keep the good stuff coming. That said, if you two ever do create your own thread to lead more general discussions in, then you better let us know because I and likely a good number of others would want to be following that as well.

 

[bloombee]

Hi. Well I see that Minou took the lead in responding to your post. I couldn't say better than what she wrote.
I see that you are still studying and in a very complicated subject, like psychology, which Minou and I studied together at university.
And again, about destiny, I had chosen this path after studying technological sciences, after the loss of my little sister, which led me to the United States and to meeting Minou. It is more than certainly for this reason that this game, LoF, we liked and marked so much.
I think Drifty really wanted to highlight all those links that connect each "thing" and that we don't pay attention to most of the time, either by not wanting to see them, or simply because we can only connect the nodes more late in the futur, when you sit down for a moment and ask yourself "how did this all happen?".
like you say, we never know where things will go. All we can control is to move forward trying to make the choices that feel right and appropriate. Whether we did the good or the bad choices, only time can tell. Who could have said that by going from technological studies to study psychology, I would end up becoming a photographer? It was certainly a passion, but I have many others... Or even, that I would debate psychology and communication around a "heroic" game, me in France getting ready to leave to do my work in the usa, with a guy who lives in Turkey?
Have a nice day

♂

You guys seem like a perfect couple and I love how even I can detect the passionate chemistry between both of you. You've experienced harsh conditions and experiences and yet you managed to bound together. I love that. And may it last forever. I'm not the most optimistic guy when it comes to hoping for a better future but I would like to share a memory of mine that might help some people if they aren't the optimist type as well.

I was like 8-9 years old, playing football, cards and such. One day couple of guys who were like 3-4 older than me were playing water balloons... basically a street child game. And I saw that they were bullying a girl, throwing a balloon at her. So I stepped in and threw rocks and punches at them. They all ran away crying. I met the girl and learned that she was basically living two steps away. We started visiting our houses, playing some games... you know, child stuff. And one day she asked me what I wanted to do when I grow up. I said I want to visit England, specifically Old Trafford on my 23rd birthday. She was so confused and asked me why I didn't mention any jobs, money or like anything else but this. I said some silly things about how I believe the number 23 means a lot to me and to my life and that the number is basically revolving around my life (I swear this was before the Jim Carrey movie "the number 23" but my thoughts were quite similar to the representation in the movie). Anyway, so she said she would want to be with me even on that day and that she likes me. That's when I had my first kiss. A couple of weeks later, she got into a car with her parents, she was crying and uttered no words. I watched her get inside and wave at me goodbye as the car drove away. I had no idea what happened or where she went. After a couple of months, my family divorced and sent me to my grandmother & grandfather. I lived in a family apartment where my aunts, cousins, and uncles lived. I've been with many people and experienced a lot of things as I grew up but I never managed to forget about her. Plus, I remembered about her was her name, how we met and that little conversation I had with her. Nothing else. So I tried my hardest but couldn't find her and gave up thinking about it when I was around to finish high school. So I started studying English Literature at my university... I was a pretty mediocre student until I was afraid I'd lose my student loans and eventually pressed hard. In my third year, I was doing pretty well and eventually, someone asked me why I haven't given any thought about signing for Erasmus. So I did. The result turned out and I learnt that I was a backup student (Meaning I would have to either pay my own money to go or wait for the possibility of 2 other students forfeiting their position). One of them actually did so I earned the chance to move to England. It was January 19th 2019. 4 days earlier than my birthday. I had some free time to travel around the country before the school was open so I met some friends and took some photos. Uploaded the photos to Instagram with a like handful of tags. On my birthday I travelled to Manchester to see Old Trafford and decided to stay the night there. When I was uploading my photos, I just got a random message from someone, just casually saying hi, asking if I lived where I lived in my childhood. I couldn't get a grasp of it at first but then it suddenly hit me. I stood for like 15 minutes without moving my head and not knowing what to think. The girl I was looking for, the girl I stopped looking for years ago... was also looking for me this whole time. Just like me, she had no idea of how to find me or anyone to reach. She just thought I would manage to achieve my dream and travel to England on my 23rd birthday. She looked through thousands of tags and saw someone named İlkay among them. She told me her whole story, how she grew up getting beaten by her father, attempting to suicide a couple of times, leaving her home and finally jumping from a bridge... Someone saw and persuaded her not to jump. Years later they got married and have a kid. She named her daughter İlkay, which is my name(unisex name). Reading all these... reading it from her... I honestly have no way of describing it even right now. She said that her husband wasn't treating her properly anymore. Saying he's not the same man as before and that he has been beating her for years. She said she wanted to suicide again but thought about me... the hope of finding me kept her alive she says. For me, it was a lot to take in. So we spoke a later or a two after. She showed me her daughter, which believes it or not, looks 100% like me. She claims the same. I have never seen anyone that could look like me that much. I was devastated... and thrilled at the same time. Eventually... she asked if we could have a future together. She could move away from everyone, take her child and go anywhere with me. I didn't know what to say. She was still married to a guy that basically saved her life... but now torturing her. I... I said I didn't want to give any false hopes to her and that my life sucks. I had no financial incentive, nor anything to look for. She just asked me for a small chance, in other words, a "leap of faith" that one day we might be together. I couldn't give her any hope. I myself wasn't in perfect condition. Describing it right kinda feels like I was a piece of shit... but seriously, I didn't know what to do. After 3 days I got a phone call from my cousin at 6 AM that my grandmother had died. That was it. It had been 3 years since my grandfather died at the time and now this. I had no idea what to do when I got back. I returned after 7 months and all I found was an empty house. After 1 year passed and I graduated, a girl that I liked in England decided to visit me in Turkey. She stayed with me for 10 days. We had all the chemistry and love together. Before she returned to the Czech Republic, she said she wanted to get married and that she loves me so much... I wanted her as well. I really did. But I had no way of getting an EU visa, let alone a work permit. She said she was living with her parents so they wouldn't accept it if we got married in Turkey. Long story short, we bid ourselves farewell at the airport. She bought her ticket and left. 6 months later I got a message from her. It was just "I'm sorry..." and then she blocked me. I checked her Facebook and learned that she got married. And you know the funny thing is... After some time passed and I encountered a man on Instagram... It looked really similar from somewhere... was going through his photos... and I saw that he was working as an airport employee, selling tickets and stuff. I saw that he was the guy who sold the departure ticket to the girl who visited me and one of his photos was liked by a certain someone... It was liked by my childhood girl. He turned out to be his husband. Anyway. I'm really sorry for the huge wall of text but I wanted to share a unique memory of mine. Some perhaps learn something from it. I really don't know.

 

[cxx]

or more divergent paths. You could have multiple endings with the same character too. In fact, we see it with Lexi, Holly, Lexi/Holly or Kira, Robin, Kira/Robin. Thankfully it stops there or we could have been in a throuple with Linda/Chris or Holly/Chris!

true but that could have made game more complex aka early game choice opens path to endings 1-3 to char a but closes other endings. linda might been up for that and holly quite surely.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Hehe, I was just kidding, I love the discussions that go on in this thread in whether they're related to the game or complete tangents (and whether I have time to join in or not) so by all means keep the good stuff coming. That said, if you two ever do create your own thread to lead more general discussions in, then you better let us know because I and likely a good number of others would want to be following that as well.

Me, and I'm sure Minou would agree with me, I'd love to do this, but as I've mentioned before in this thread, we're getting ready for a long trip and we don't know how many times we'll have to stay away for our work.
At worst a few months in the USA, at best a lot more in around the world.
First working with fashion celebrities, then also dealing with recruitment campaigns and selection of new models for several clothing brands and other designers.
I know Minou said I tend to freak out a bit when it comes to our trips like these, but I'm not sure it would be right for either of us to mess things up with this kind of people. The last time we had these types of contracts, we barely managed to sleep on planes and trains for 20 months most of the time. It's one of the prizes for the independence of our profession and also the post-covid prize, at least I hope for the last one that there won't be any others.
So perhaps another time for us to create this topic.
But hey, you and the others are free to make it as well. We'll most likely happy to join in some point of free time

 

[cxx]

now he has becomes schizophrenic.

 

[Elhemeer]

Me, and I'm sure Minou would agree with me, I'd love to do this, but as I've mentioned before in this thread, we're getting ready for a long trip and we don't know how many times we'll have to stay away for our work.
At worst a few months in the USA, at best a lot more in around the world.
First working with fashion celebrities, then also dealing with recruitment campaigns and selection of new models for several clothing brands and other designers.
I know Minou said I tend to freak out a bit when it comes to our trips like these, but I'm not sure it would be right for either of us to mess things up with this kind of people. The last time we had these types of contracts, we barely managed to sleep on planes and trains for 20 months most of the time. It's one of the prizes for the independence of our profession and also the post-covid prize, at least I hope for the last one that there won't be any others.
So perhaps another time for us to create this topic.
But hey, you and the others are free to make it as well. We'll most likely happy to join in some point of free time

My only worry is that this wonderful dialogue might get purged ... at least it has a chance to survive here.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

My only worry is that this wonderful dialogue might get purged ... at least it has a chance to survive here.

That's why I suggested a separate topic. Sooner than later, some posts would certainly be deleted I'm afraid

♂

 

[cxx]

That's why I suggested a separate topic. Sooner than later, some posts would certainly be deleted I'm afraid

♂

some? most what has been posted past 100 pages.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

now he has becomes schizophrenic.

Well, I might have what some psychologists call "social disorder," but not this one

♂

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

You guys seem like a perfect couple and I love how even I can detect the passionate chemistry between both of you. You've experienced harsh conditions and experiences and yet you managed to bound together. I love that. And may it last forever. I'm not the most optimistic guy when it comes to hoping for a better future but I would like to share a memory of mine that might help some people if they aren't the optimist type as well.

I was like 8-9 years old, playing football, cards and such. One day couple of guys who were like 3-4 older than me were playing water balloons... basically a street child game. And I saw that they were bullying a girl, throwing a balloon at her. So I stepped in and threw rocks and punches at them. They all ran away crying. I met the girl and learned that she was basically living two steps away. We started visiting our houses, playing some games... you know, child stuff. And one day she asked me what I wanted to do when I grow up. I said I want to visit England, specifically Old Trafford on my 23rd birthday. She was so confused and asked me why I didn't mention any jobs, money or like anything else but this. I said some silly things about how I believe the number 23 means a lot to me and to my life and that the number is basically revolving around my life (I swear this was before the Jim Carrey movie "the number 23" but my thoughts were quite similar to the representation in the movie). Anyway, so she said she would want to be with me even on that day and that she likes me. That's when I had my first kiss. A couple of weeks later, she got into a car with her parents, she was crying and uttered no words. I watched her get inside and wave at me goodbye as the car drove away. I had no idea what happened or where she went. After a couple of months, my family divorced and sent me to my grandmother & grandfather. I lived in a family apartment where my aunts, cousins, and uncles lived. I've been with many people and experienced a lot of things as I grew up but I never managed to forget about her. Plus, I remembered about her was her name, how we met and that little conversation I had with her. Nothing else. So I tried my hardest but couldn't find her and gave up thinking about it when I was around to finish high school. So I started studying English Literature at my university... I was a pretty mediocre student until I was afraid I'd lose my student loans and eventually pressed hard. In my third year, I was doing pretty well and eventually, someone asked me why I haven't given any thought about signing for Erasmus. So I did. The result turned out and I learnt that I was a backup student (Meaning I would have to either pay my own money to go or wait for the possibility of 2 other students forfeiting their position). One of them actually did so I earned the chance to move to England. It was January 19th 2019. 4 days earlier than my birthday. I had some free time to travel around the country before the school was open so I met some friends and took some photos. Uploaded the photos to Instagram with a like handful of tags. On my birthday I travelled to Manchester to see Old Trafford and decided to stay the night there. When I was uploading my photos, I just got a random message from someone, just casually saying hi, asking if I lived where I lived in my childhood. I couldn't get a grasp of it at first but then it suddenly hit me. I stood for like 15 minutes without moving my head and not knowing what to think. The girl I was looking for, the girl I stopped looking for years ago... was also looking for me this whole time. Just like me, she had no idea of how to find me or anyone to reach. She just thought I would manage to achieve my dream and travel to England on my 23rd birthday. She looked through thousands of tags and saw someone named İlkay among them. She told me her whole story, how she grew up getting beaten by her father, attempting to suicide a couple of times, leaving her home and finally jumping from a bridge... Someone saw and persuaded her not to jump. Years later they got married and have a kid. She named her daughter İlkay, which is my name(unisex name). Reading all these... reading it from her... I honestly have no way of describing it even right now. She said that her husband wasn't treating her properly anymore. Saying he's not the same man as before and that he has been beating her for years. She said she wanted to suicide again but thought about me... the hope of finding me kept her alive she says. For me, it was a lot to take in. So we spoke a later or a two after. She showed me her daughter, which believes it or not, looks 100% like me. She claims the same. I have never seen anyone that could look like me that much. I was devastated... and thrilled at the same time. Eventually... she asked if we could have a future together. She could move away from everyone, take her child and go anywhere with me. I didn't know what to say. She was still married to a guy that basically saved her life... but now torturing her. I... I said I didn't want to give any false hopes to her and that my life sucks. I had no financial incentive, nor anything to look for. She just asked me for a small chance, in other words, a "leap of faith" that one day we might be together. I couldn't give her any hope. I myself wasn't in perfect condition. Describing it right kinda feels like I was a piece of shit... but seriously, I didn't know what to do. After 3 days I got a phone call from my cousin at 6 AM that my grandmother had died. That was it. It had been 3 years since my grandfather died at the time and now this. I had no idea what to do when I got back. I returned after 7 months and all I found was an empty house. After 1 year passed and I graduated, a girl that I liked in England decided to visit me in Turkey. She stayed with me for 10 days. We had all the chemistry and love together. Before she returned to the Czech Republic, she said she wanted to get married and that she loves me so much... I wanted her as well. I really did. But I had no way of getting an EU visa, let alone a work permit. She said she was living with her parents so they wouldn't accept it if we got married in Turkey. Long story short, we bid ourselves farewell at the airport. She bought her ticket and left. 6 months later I got a message from her. It was just "I'm sorry..." and then she blocked me. I checked her Facebook and learned that she got married. And you know the funny thing is... After some time passed and I encountered a man on Instagram... It looked really similar from somewhere... was going through his photos... and I saw that he was working as an airport employee, selling tickets and stuff. I saw that he was the guy who sold the departure ticket to the girl who visited me and one of his photos was liked by a certain someone... It was liked by my childhood girl. He turned out to be his husband. Anyway. I'm really sorry for the huge wall of text but I wanted to share a unique memory of mine. Some perhaps learn something from it. I really don't know.

Well, I see you already had a pretty full plate. The wheel doesn't spin very fast but it spins

♂

 

[cxx]

Well, I might have what some psychologists call "social disorder," but not this one

♂

you sure? mpd then.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

some? most what has been posted past 100 pages.

I see that you keep the accounts. wow! past 100? It's going to be a big cleaning then

♂

 

[cxx]

I see that you keep the accounts. wow! past 100? It's going to be a big cleaning then

that was assumption.

 

[hampsure]

And again, about destiny, I had chosen this path after studying technological sciences, after the loss of my little sister, which led me to the United States and to meeting Minou. It is more than certainly for this reason that this game, LoF, we liked and marked so much.

For me, the most bitter-sweet moments of seeing some sort of destiny at play are the times when I realize that I was a huge part of the puzzle but not the ultimate solution longer term for someone I truly loved. In retrospect, it often brings some combination of relief, understanding, and at least a tinge of heartache (depending on timing). The few girls I felt this strongly about romantically in my life I can now look back and see clearly why things needed to happen like they did to get them and myself where we needed to be respectively. Despite the pain that can come with parting ways initially, when I realized in hindsight that there were certain things I ultimately couldn't have been/provided (and sometimes things they couldn't be that I needed) which were key to their (and my own) happiness it makes sense of things that were once just lingering questions and what ifs. I end up glad that they found the person that was all the right things for them and happy to have been a key part of them getting there. Clarity and perspective can take a good amount of time though. Some still own a piece of my heart regardless of how much I've moved on or who I'm with and I'm okay with that.

Then there are some things our heart can never fully understand but our head can find a way of reaching some peace with until, if we're lucky, more of the big picture is revealed. Playing LoF when I did was very timely to some of these occurrences in my own life and got me back into taking a more active role in it again... opening doors I'd been too scared to open for a good while.

Anyway. I'm really sorry for the huge wall of text but I wanted to share a unique memory of mine. Some perhaps learn something from it. I really don't know.

Thanks for sharing. It honestly had me riveted reading through the twists and turns. I'd watch that movie. I wrote most of the above before reading it and I hope that it applies to you and you've made some sort of sense out of your own situation and can be happy with the role you played in it. You've still got a long road ahead and, to steal Brout's wording, the wheel keeps turning.

I also still clearly remember the day 20 years ago from next Thursday when I had my heart broken for the second time by someone I had my own romantic-comedy style seemingly destined re-connection story with. I'll spare you the details but I just wanted to let you know I can definitely empathize. After a while I did find out she'd ended up getting married (to a guy she was leaving and had left while we were reconnecting) and had a kid - which is what she wanted most in the world and had been at risk of not being able to have as time progressed due to a medical condition. It was also something I wasn't at all equipped for at that point in my life. So while it was hard to swallow at the time, I was also happy for her, and it helped me make sense of something that wasn't meant to work out between her and I no matter how it might have seemed at the time. That's an extremely abbreviated version of one of the examples of things I was speaking of more generally above and not necessarily one of the better examples at that.

 

[hampsure]

that was assumption.

 

[bloombee]

That's an extremely abbreviated version of one of the examples of things I was speaking of more generally above and not necessarily one of the better examples at that.

Thank you for sharing your experiences and unique perspectives on it as well. I think in the end, we all come to a point where we could accept one thing; The wheel keeps turning, no matter how slow or fast.