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Just finished the update yesterday, and i found it overall good but dissapointing. The story generally moved forward with new elements of mystery and new questionning. I liked that you had to be friendly in general with everyone to open LI routes, it changes the pace from ignoring everyone for single LIs path in most games. If i understood correctly, it should have around 4 chapters left. I saw that you can lock paths with 3 girls this chapter. I tought it was pretty early, but it is what it is.
Is Emmeline really John's sister, or could the government not have stored the orc's dna correctly and messed up on purpose, or did Emmeline's dad also bang the John's crackhead mom. John seems decently older than Emmeline, so maybe it was before he married, who knows. The game had the oncest tag, so it may also be true. So, what does it means for poor Colleen? John met her like twice, and finds out she went from a sister to nothing. The senator and aide seemed to know a lot and even now, are they still screwing with John, or do they also knows his real dad and prefer the story of the dead one that having him dig in files to prove his real dad's innocence?
The dissapointing part for me was Malena. She is my main girl, but she lost a lot of respect for me this update. The gym thing was stupid and messed up. Yes, training at the same gym as your best friends rapist for who knows how long, thats messed up, and NO, "i like this gym" is not an excuse. She basically told us she prefers her gym to her best friend and thats shitty. Really shitty. She could easily have been: i found out he uses this gym, and i joined and was planning on breaking his leg to permanently end his carrer soon, or chop his dick, for example and then you convince her not to. Also, after the whole sequence is an earlier chapter about if a murderer can be rehabilited (that you must say yes to gain point with her, as she talks about herself), then she goes and loses her shit after John say he would like to meet his dad to try and see if he can be rehabilitated, but just because he put her best friends dad in jail, the same friend which she put below her gym in her priorities. I could excuse the tentacle fantasy weird sex scene, but i decided to start a new game with Jamie after that. She's not my no1 anymore. Ma told me to not stick my dick in crazy and i didnt listen, guess she was right.
So, i tried the Jamie path, and in the end, that also was a dissapointment. I tought we were getting closer and that she was getting the memo the relationship was changing after inviting her to dinner and all the extra stuff with did and shared with her that we werent previously, but then she gets that job offer, and decide to accept regardless of your points and without asking/confirming one last time their relationship status, and proceed to decline your kiss and abandon you like all the other girls John was with. And the way i read it, i think she well knew her chances were improving. And so down goes the second and only other girl i liked. I know the story is gonna be written that something will happen to reunite the slowburn, but after that move, for me it would have been over here and there with minimum future contacts. I guess ill go back to my Malena save next update and hope she redeems herself, as it probably gonna happen faster than Jamie.
Usually i would wait impatiently for the next update, and will totally play it when its released, but im not really in a hurry for the next chapter as this one left a sour note.
Is Emmeline really John's sister, or could the government not have stored the orc's dna correctly and messed up on purpose, or did Emmeline's dad also bang the John's crackhead mom. John seems decently older than Emmeline, so maybe it was before he married, who knows. The game had the oncest tag, so it may also be true. So, what does it means for poor Colleen? John met her like twice, and finds out she went from a sister to nothing. The senator and aide seemed to know a lot and even now, are they still screwing with John, or do they also knows his real dad and prefer the story of the dead one that having him dig in files to prove his real dad's innocence?
The dissapointing part for me was Malena. She is my main girl, but she lost a lot of respect for me this update. The gym thing was stupid and messed up. Yes, training at the same gym as your best friends rapist for who knows how long, thats messed up, and NO, "i like this gym" is not an excuse. She basically told us she prefers her gym to her best friend and thats shitty. Really shitty. She could easily have been: i found out he uses this gym, and i joined and was planning on breaking his leg to permanently end his carrer soon, or chop his dick, for example and then you convince her not to. Also, after the whole sequence is an earlier chapter about if a murderer can be rehabilited (that you must say yes to gain point with her, as she talks about herself), then she goes and loses her shit after John say he would like to meet his dad to try and see if he can be rehabilitated, but just because he put her best friends dad in jail, the same friend which she put below her gym in her priorities. I could excuse the tentacle fantasy weird sex scene, but i decided to start a new game with Jamie after that. She's not my no1 anymore. Ma told me to not stick my dick in crazy and i didnt listen, guess she was right.
So, i tried the Jamie path, and in the end, that also was a dissapointment. I tought we were getting closer and that she was getting the memo the relationship was changing after inviting her to dinner and all the extra stuff with did and shared with her that we werent previously, but then she gets that job offer, and decide to accept regardless of your points and without asking/confirming one last time their relationship status, and proceed to decline your kiss and abandon you like all the other girls John was with. And the way i read it, i think she well knew her chances were improving. And so down goes the second and only other girl i liked. I know the story is gonna be written that something will happen to reunite the slowburn, but after that move, for me it would have been over here and there with minimum future contacts. I guess ill go back to my Malena save next update and hope she redeems herself, as it probably gonna happen faster than Jamie.
Usually i would wait impatiently for the next update, and will totally play it when its released, but im not really in a hurry for the next chapter as this one left a sour note.
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- Aug 20, 2020
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Plot twist. What if in the picture, it's Emmeline and John?
The kids in the photo appear to be about the same age, but there are several years between Emmeline & John.
Gotta say, the opening scene of chapter 4 is fucking *rough* to read. That is some dark shit.
... ten years between Emmeline and John. Maybe as many as 3-4 years between Emmeline and the child in the photo; that's yet to be confirmed.
- Feb 19, 2021
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I've dealt with a lot of dark shit regarding AVNs, and that scene is definitely up near the top of fucked up shit I've seen, at least when in comes to forced content.
- Sep 2, 2020
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Solomon Hobbs' junkie mom pimped him out to her dealer when he was a literal child. I thought that was way darker.
I wasn't comparing. Given the multiple women beaten to death, the trial about rape and incest, and the sexual abuse Hobbs suffered as a child, there is A LOT of dark shit... Andras' son groomed to become a murderer in his mid-teens would be pretty par for the course, but I don't believe IM really has the son starting covert missions that young.
- Oct 1, 2023
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It doesn't matter what kind of child abuse, they are all equally bad and always leave scars. In the worst case, they never heal!
One of the worst outtake from a story I've ever seen. Have you ever checked who she is? Do you really think she'd change her way of life because of someone else? Can you not notice how predatory she is? It's not a gym she trains, it's her gym. If anyone should change it, it's the other guy. I think she already has a plan, like the murder plan she talked about, make him to leave her territory she is only tolerating his presence. Choosing the gym over best friend is not a thing she'd do. Emmeline probably even knows about the gym situation and most likely she told Malena to let it go.
I do kinda agree on this. It's weird how she acted. Was she scared or there was something we are no aware of. I too was surprised about her refusal though. Also, after everyone including Jamie herself forcing MC to have a relationship with Jamie then her refusal/abandonment is shitty.
- Nov 15, 2020
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To me it felt like she didn't want to take the risk of MC not admitting to his feelings when she had such a great job opportunity on the line. She also has a history with not wanting a long distance relationship (she dropped the dude the moment she went back to California). We also don't know how long she would work at Harvard, so it's possible if she ever returns she will try to start a relationship with him again.
- Mar 26, 2024
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There was even dialogue she had in game about how she was going to take this opportunity since it was too ideal for her plans for the future, and knew how this was going to destroy the MC. It's really shitty, but also really adult. MC was also saying early on that her job was too little for her, and she needed to advance on if she wanted to achieve her potential and plans. It's pretty obvious that she only took the ADA job to be with MC.
- Nov 15, 2020
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She would almost certainly also drop the job for MC, if MC was a couple days faster with admitting it.
- Mar 26, 2024
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See, I don't think that. We don't really see the ambitious side of Jamie, since we mostly see her around the MC. Everybody including the MC remarks on it, though. She's also been pining for him her entire life, so is used to thinking it's not going anywhere. I think she would take the job, and hope that there was a chance in the future to rekindle something, and be very sad that she hurt him so badly.
- Mar 26, 2024
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I've gotta say, I really hate this part of the writing. It's too painful and contrived. Jamie has loved this guy since she was literally a kid, and is perceptive and smart enough to know exactly who he is, and has learned a lot of why he is that way. She gets her perfect job offer just as she's possibly reaching a point where her dreams of a romantic relationship with him is actually possible, and he opening up enough to maybe let her in, all at the same time. There are no good choices for her.
Psychological healing is never linear. You may hit that cathartic realization, but it takes a lot to make permanent changes in behavior patterns, and there's always cycles to patterns. Even if he opens up doesn't mean he won't retreat back inside. Just because they start a relationship, it doesn't mean it will succeed. Just because she loves him, doesn't mean she will sacrifice her goals. BUT she's stuck with the aftermath either way.
This Harvard opportunity is too good a job for her to have just come along right now. The only thing that makes sense, outside of bad writing, is that the position was opened for her intentionally, to both advance her career and get her away from the MC. Her father and his people are definitely able to pull those strings, and has the motivation to do so, but we haven't seen anything to hint that.
Psychological healing is never linear. You may hit that cathartic realization, but it takes a lot to make permanent changes in behavior patterns, and there's always cycles to patterns. Even if he opens up doesn't mean he won't retreat back inside. Just because they start a relationship, it doesn't mean it will succeed. Just because she loves him, doesn't mean she will sacrifice her goals. BUT she's stuck with the aftermath either way.
This Harvard opportunity is too good a job for her to have just come along right now. The only thing that makes sense, outside of bad writing, is that the position was opened for her intentionally, to both advance her career and get her away from the MC. Her father and his people are definitely able to pull those strings, and has the motivation to do so, but we haven't seen anything to hint that.
- Nov 15, 2020
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I disagree. We know she isn't that ambitious herself and if she could do it at her own pace, she would first build up a couple years of experience working at MCs place (she says it a couple of times). I'm still a firm believer that if MC told her before the phone call, she would've made up her mind already to stay with him, especially seeing how long she already wants him.
- Jun 17, 2019
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To me, it's pretty clear that the only solution to the Jamie situation is the MC leaving California and following her, to support her throughout her career wherever it takes them. And that kind of choice would suit the whole point of the MC's story, as it will demand from him an enormous amount of courage to leave everything behind, to actually leave his comfort zone, following a person he's emotionally attached to, with the potential risk of eventually losing everything and the girl too. That would be the ultimate challenge for this MC. It's also kind of weird that this option has (almost) never been mentioned or discussed on this forum, where people only demand Jamie to drop her professional (and likely achievable) high dreams just because the MC is finally willing to see her as a potential love partner. Surely she has helped him a lot, but this is a potentially life-changing opportunity, the actual first significant step toward her goals, and it's time for him to act. After all, she might be able to move on from a heartbreak, but someone with her family background and her own ambitions shouldn't (and probably wouldn't) pass such a chance.