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To me, it's pretty clear that the only solution to the Jamie situation is the MC leaving California and following her, to support her throughout her career wherever it takes them. And that kind of choice would suit the whole point of the MC's story, as it will demand from him an enormous amount of courage to leave everything behind, to actually leave his comfort zone, following a person he's emotionally attached to, with the potential risk of eventually losing everything and the girl too. That would be the ultimate challenge for this MC. It's also kind of weird that this option has (almost) never been mentioned or discussed on this forum, where people only demand Jamie to drop her professional (and likely achievable) high dreams just because the MC is finally willing to see her as a potential love partner. Surely she has helped him a lot, but this is a potentially life-changing opportunity, the actual first significant step toward her goals, and it's time for him to act. After all, she might be able to move on from a heartbreak, but someone with her family background and her own ambitions shouldn't (and probably wouldn't) pass such a chance.
I actually mostly agree, except that would mean this game ends immediately. It would mean dropping the investigation into his family history, abandoning his "sister" and his sister (whichever Emmaline and Colleen are), and never finding out the story of his life.
 

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To me, it's pretty clear that the only solution to the Jamie situation is the MC leaving California and following her, to support her throughout her career wherever it takes them. And that kind of choice would suit the whole point of the MC's story, as it will demand from him an enormous amount of courage to leave everything behind, to actually leave his comfort zone, following a person he's emotionally attached to, with the potential risk of eventually losing everything and the girl too. That would be the ultimate challenge for this MC. It's also kind of weird that this option has (almost) never been mentioned or discussed on this forum, where people only demand Jamie to drop her professional (and likely achievable) high dreams just because the MC is finally willing to see her as a potential love partner. Surely she has helped him a lot, but this is a potentially life-changing opportunity, the actual first significant step toward her goals, and it's time for him to act. After all, she might be able to move on from a heartbreak, but someone with her family background and her own ambitions shouldn't (and probably wouldn't) pass such a chance.
I agree, but so far the story has been more or less the same with minor differences depending on which path you take. In your case IM would need to make a completely separate story just for the jamie route (I doubt the others will follow him when he travels to Jamie).

It's of course always possible IM will do that, but so far we haven't seen a hint of the story going in completely different angles depending on which route you take.
 

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Obviously I meant he'd eventually leave California to follow her, but not right now. He's just not there yet. They would be a month, or a semester, or whatever, away, until he's finally ready to take this huge step. But to me that's the most logical outcome. After all, can someone point me what are MC's goals in life? They aren't related with professional success or high roles, at least in a strict sense. He wants that, but only as long as they can cover up his personal failures. But what he wants the most is a family, and being able to love someone and feel loved. Sure, he wouldn't be able to stay as close to Colleen as he'd wish, but maybe that's something to be learned there too: you just can't have it all.
 
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She would almost certainly also drop the job for MC, if MC was a couple days faster with admitting it.
See, I don't think that. We don't really see the ambitious side of Jamie, since we mostly see her around the MC. Everybody including the MC remarks on it, though. She's also been pining for him her entire life, so is used to thinking it's not going anywhere. I think she would take the job, and hope that there was a chance in the future to rekindle something, and be very sad that she hurt him so badly.
I've gotta say, I really hate this part of the writing. It's too painful and contrived. Jamie has loved this guy since she was literally a kid, and is perceptive and smart enough to know exactly who he is, and has learned a lot of why he is that way. She gets her perfect job offer just as she's possibly reaching a point where her dreams of a romantic relationship with him is actually possible, and he opening up enough to maybe let her in, all at the same time. There are no good choices for her.

Psychological healing is never linear. You may hit that cathartic realization, but it takes a lot to make permanent changes in behavior patterns, and there's always cycles to patterns. Even if he opens up doesn't mean he won't retreat back inside. Just because they start a relationship, it doesn't mean it will succeed. Just because she loves him, doesn't mean she will sacrifice her goals. BUT she's stuck with the aftermath either way.

This Harvard opportunity is too good a job for her to have just come along right now. The only thing that makes sense, outside of bad writing, is that the position was opened for her intentionally, to both advance her career and get her away from the MC. Her father and his people are definitely able to pull those strings, and has the motivation to do so, but we haven't seen anything to hint that.
We, as players. have the advantage of seeing things that the MC doesn't necessarily see.

Anyone that's really paid attention will understand that Jamie is exceptionally talented and very ambitious, yet humble and self-effacing.

Seo Jun, Trevor, and Prof. Williams all understand how ambitious Jamie is, and Impious Monk uses them and Jamie to convey that ambition to the player.

Jamie finished top of her class at Harvard and fresh out of college she clerked for a federal judge on the Circuit Court of Appeals and then clerked for a Supreme Court Justice in Washington DC. How many law students in the US get to clerk for a SC Justice?

Day 9
Group at the bar acknowledge that Jamie could be a Supreme Court Justice one day.

Day 24
Rockford/Jamie date at Sushi restaurant: Rockford asks Jamie her long term plans. Jamie: 1. loves being an ADA, but there's other things she'd like to achieve in her career 2. she wants a Federal Bench, but she's probably 10 years from being able to seriously think about that. 3. She's thinking about applying to be an adjunct professor for evening law class at El Valiente Community College. Jamie WARNS Rockford: "John, getting what I want might mean leaving Valeria County." Rockford goes, Oh!

Day 33
Seo Jun/Jamie at Café: Seo Jun [about Jamie being ADA]: "You're too ambitious for this job, Jamie. Unless you want to run the office one day."

Day 42
Jamie's home: phone call: Prof Williams: "And a career as a local prosecutor and an adjunct professor at a local law school would be a good path for a lot of people. But I think you belong on a bigger stage." Jamie: "I hope so. I'm enjoying what I do now. But let's see what the future holds." Prof Williams: "The future is now, Jamie."


Jamie understands the dynamic of her relationship with Rockford and knows full-well (from Seo Jun) how emotionally unfulfilling an actual intimate relationship with Rockford might be.

Day 17
Rockford's tells Sean/Donna-Lee his reasons for not feeling romantic about Jamie: 1. They're just friends. 2. He still sees her as just a kid. 3. Her parents think he's a pedo. 4. She's a Carrington.

Day 24
Rockford/Jamie date at Sushi restaurant: Jamie: "This is the first time you and I have ever been out alone."

Day 33
Seo Jun/Jamie at Café: Jamie: "
I did have a crush on him. For so long. But I'm afraid he'll always think of me as Trevor's kid sister."

Day 33
Seo Jun/Jamie at Café: Seo Jun: "So you're over him?" "Jamie: "I don't know.
I still have feelings for him, but I'm staring to think that maybe it's time for me to grow up and move on. If that's what needs to happen, then I'll accept it. But he'll still be an important part of my life. I'll always care about him as a friend." Seo Jun: "And if he comes to you tomorrow and professes his love?" Jamie: "Then we will immediately engage in 72 straight hours of raucous lovemaking." [players should understand that Jamie's last statement was made with nothing at stake and without the knowledge she'd soon face a difficult choice between career and Rockford]

Day 38
At Cinema, Trevor [to Jamie]: "You know, if you are still planning to bed and wed [Rockford],
the last thing you should be doing is asking him to treat you like a sister." Jamie: "I know."

Day 45
At the Carrington Estate: Trevor: "Why haven't you told him about the offer?" Jamie: "Because I want it to be my choice." Trevor: "And if you know that if [Rockford] wanted you to stay, you would." Jamie: "He wouldn't ask me to stay. You know he'd never ask that." Trevor: "I didn't say he'd ask you. But you know that telling him you're leaving might be the only way you're ever going to find out how he really feels about you. You know, I think he really has changed over the last year. He's more open. More emotionally trusting." Jamie: "It's his sister." Trevor: "It's not just his sister, Jamie." Jamie: "How can I think about leaving him, Trevor, with all the growth he's made?" Trevor: "You can't make a decision like this based on hope placed in an unrequited love." Jamie: "It's not that, it's... I wanted to be his friend. I wanted to be here for him. I wanted to show him the value of really opening himself up. Instead it's the same old pattern for him. He allows himself to care about someone and he ends up alone and hurt. How can I do that to him again? Of all people, how can I be the person who proves he was right all along to keep us away?" Trevor: "You're not abandoning him. This isn't the 18th century, Jamie. Rockford will always be just a phone call away. Besides, you have to make the choice that's best for you, not for him. I know you already know that. Just like I know you've already decided what it is that you really want."


Jamie understands that she has a crush on Rockford, puppy love if you like. That doesn't mean she doesn't love him deeply in a platonic sense. Rather, she started to wake up to the fact that some fairy tale romance with Rockford might just be a pipe dream.

With this in mind, why would Jamie drop everything and abandon/put on hold her career goals - given her ambition - just because Rockford's had a couple of weeks of opening up [bearing in mind it took him a fucking year of working with Jamie to get that far]? That's straight-up AVN porn logic at play that frustrated players blame on "bad writing."

On a positive note, let's hope Trevor's statement, "But you know that telling him you're leaving might be the only way you're ever going to find out how he really feels about you" has some significance going forward. As much as I hope it does, I doubt it. Things are likely to get a bit darker in Rockford's world over the next couple of chapters before they get brighter. Anyway, it's going to be a wild ride...
 
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We, as players. have the advantage of seeing things that the MC doesn't necessarily see.

Anyone that's really paid attention will understand that Janie is exceptionally talented and very ambitious, yet humble and self-effacing.

Seo Jun, Trevor, and Prof. Williams all understand how ambitious Jamie is, and Impious Monk uses them and Jamie to convey that ambition to the player.

Jamie finished top of her class at Harvard and fresh out of college she clerked for a federal judge on the Circuit Court of Appeals and then clerked for a Supreme Court Justice in Washington DC. How many law students in the US get to clerk for a SC Justice?

Day 9
Group at the bar acknowledge that Jamie could be a Supreme Court Justice one day.

Day 24
Rockford/Jamie date at Sushi restaurant: Rockford asks Jamie her long term plans. Jamie: 1. loves being an ADA, but there's other things she'd like to achieve in her career 2. she wants a Federal Bench, but she's probably 10 years from being able to seriously think about that. 3. She's thinking about applying to be an adjunct professor for evening law class at El Valiente Community College. Jamie WARNS Rockford: "John, getting what I want might mean leaving Valeria County." Rockford goes, Oh!

Day 33
Seo Jun/Jamie at Café: Seo Jun [about Jamie being ADA]: "You're too ambitious for this job, Jamie. Unless you want to run the office one day."

Day 42
Jamie's home: phone call: Prof Williams: "And a career as a local prosecutor and an adjunct professor at a local law school would be a good path for a lot of people. But I think you belong on a bigger stage." Jamie: "I hope so. I'm enjoying what I do now. But let's see what the future holds." Prof Williams: "The future is now, Jamie."


Jamie understands the dynamic of her relationship with Rockford and knows full-well (from Seo Jun) how emotionally unfulfilling an actual intimate relationship with Rockford might be.

Day 17
Rockford's tells Sean/Donna-Lee his reasons for not feeling romantic about Jamie: 1. They're just friends. 2. He still sees her as just a kid. 3. Her parents think he's a pedo. 4. She's a Carrington.

Day 24
Rockford/Jamie date at Sushi restaurant: Jamie: "This is the first time you and I have ever been out alone."

Day 33
Seo Jun/Jamie at Café: Jamie: "
I did have a crush on him. For so long. But I'm afraid he'll always think of me as Trevor's kid sister."

Day 33
Seo Jun/Jamie at Café: Seo Jun: "So you're over him?" "Jamie: "I don't know.
I still have feelings for him, but I'm staring to think that maybe it's time for me to grow up and move on. If that's what needs to happen, then I'll accept it. But he'll still be an important part of my life. I'll always care about him as a friend." Seo Jun: "And if he comes to you tomorrow and professes his love?" Jamie: "Then we will immediately engage in 72 straight hours of raucous lovemaking." [players should understand that Jamie's last statement was made with nothing at stake and without the knowledge she'd soon face a difficult choice between career and Rockford]

Day 38
At Cinema, Trevor [to Jamie]: "You know, if you are still planning to bed and wed [Rockford],
the last thing you should be doing is asking him to treat you like a sister." Jamie: "I know."

Day 45
At the Carrington Estate: Trevor: "Why haven't you told him about the offer?" Jamie: "Because I want it to be my choice." Trevor: "And if you know that if [Rockford] wanted you to stay, you would." Jamie: "He wouldn't ask me to stay. You know he'd never ask that." Trevor: "I didn't say he'd ask you. But you know that telling him you're leaving might be the only way you're ever going to find out how he really feels about you. You know, I think he really has changed over the last year. He's more open. More emotionally trusting." Jamie: "It's his sister." Trevor: "It's not just his sister, Jamie." Jamie: "How can I think about leaving him, Trevor, with all the growth he's made?" Trevor: "You can't make a decision like this based on hope placed in an unrequited love." Jamie: "It's not that, it's... I wanted to be his friend. I wanted to be here for him. I wanted to show him the value of really opening himself up. Instead it's the same old pattern for him. He allows himself to care about someone and he ends up alone and hurt. How can I do that to him again? Of all people, how can I be the person who proves he was right all along to keep us away?" Trevor: "You're not abandoning him. This isn't the 18th century, Jamie. Rockford will always be just a phone call away. Besides, you have to make the choice that's best for you, not for him. I know you already know that. Just like I know you've already decided what it is that you really want."


Jamie understands that she has a crush on Rockford, puppy love if you like. That doesn't mean she doesn't love him deeply in a platonic sense. Rather, she started to wake up to the fact that some fairy tale romance with Rockford might just be a pipe dream.

With this in mind, why would Jamie drop everything and abandon/put on hold her career goals - given her ambition - just because Rockford's had a couple of weeks of opening up [bearing in mind it took him a fucking year of working with Jamie to get that far]? That's straight-up AVN porn logic at play that frustrated players blame on "bad writing."

On a positive note, let's hope Trevor's statement, "But you know that telling him you're leaving might be the only way you're ever going to find out how he really feels about you" has some significance going forward. As much as I hope it does, I doubt it. Things are likely to get a bit darker in Rockford's world over the next couple of chapters before they get brighter. Anyway, it's going to be a wild ride...
You nailed it, characterization-wise (which is the only way we can nail her yet, so there's that). And Emmeline's words during the park trip with Colleen, telling the MC that he should focus on what he can give her, and then no matter what happens it will have been worth it, seem the proper advice to make him realize he should just be there for Jamie wherever she goes, if in her path. But, as you said, she staying in Cal instead of going to Harvard just because he finally says 'I love you' is pure AVN porn-logic
 

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With this in mind, why would Jamie drop everything and abandon/put on hold her career goals - given her ambition - just because Rockford's had a couple of weeks of opening up [bearing in mind it took him a fucking year of working with Jamie to get that far]? That's straight-up AVN porn logic at play that frustrated players blame on "bad writing."
But, as you said, she staying in Cal instead of going to Harvard just because he finally says 'I love you' is pure AVN porn-logic
Guys, have you ever seen dozens of these romantic melodramas, with a variation of the same plot?

So, they know each other since childhood/school/college/alcoholics anonymous support group, they are best friends, one of them (or both at once) starts to develop feelings for the other (or the feelings were always there) but they don't want to admit it because it will ruin their friendship or some other equally stupid excuse (like Rockford's, for example - she is Trevor's little sister)

And throughout the entire film they can't just sit down next to each other and discuss their problem. So in the end one of them decides to move on and gets married/goes to Korea/whatever, and the other only then admits that this is the love of his or her life, which he or she will lose soon.

Then comes the dramatic twist with separation, all is lost, there is no hope, but in the last minutes before the credits our completely lost MC or FMC is called by name/met with flowers/thrown a rotten tomato in the back -- he or she turns around and there is his or her love, which has also realized that she or he can't live without our MC or FMC. Happy ending. Credits roll.

I was forced to watch more than one such a movie. I assure you, they barely pull off 16+, there is no porn and its logic there.
 
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Guys, have you ever seen dozens of these romantic melodramas, with a variation of the same plot?

So, they know each other since childhood/school/college/alcoholics anonymous support group, they are best friends, one of them (or both at once) starts to develop feelings for the other (or the feelings were always there) but they don't want to admit it because it will ruin their friendship or some other equally stupid excuse (like Rockford's, for example - she is Trevor's little sister)

And throughout the entire film they can't just sit down next to each other and discuss their problem. So in the end one of them decides to move on and gets married/goes to Korea/whatever, and the other only then admits that this is the love of his or her life, which he or she will lose soon.

Then comes the dramatic twist with separation, all is lost, there is no hope, but in the last minutes before the credits our completely lost MC or FMC is called by name/met with flowers/thrown a rotten tomato in the back -- he or she turns around and there is his or her love, which has also realized that she or he can't live without our MC or FMC. Happy ending. Credits roll.

I was forced to watch more than one such a movie. I assure you, they barely pull off 16+, there is no porn and its logic there.
Yeah, well, I've also watched a couple (dozens) of those films, and my projected ending is similar, only that here the MC would jump on that plane instead of her letting it fly away.
 

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We, as players. have the advantage of seeing things that the MC doesn't necessarily see.

Anyone that's really paid attention will understand that Janie is exceptionally talented and very ambitious, yet humble and self-effacing.

Seo Jun, Trevor, and Prof. Williams all understand how ambitious Jamie is, and Impious Monk uses them and Jamie to convey that ambition to the player.

Jamie finished top of her class at Harvard and fresh out of college she clerked for a federal judge on the Circuit Court of Appeals and then clerked for a Supreme Court Justice in Washington DC. How many law students in the US get to clerk for a SC Justice?

Day 9
Group at the bar acknowledge that Jamie could be a Supreme Court Justice one day.

Day 24
Rockford/Jamie date at Sushi restaurant: Rockford asks Jamie her long term plans. Jamie: 1. loves being an ADA, but there's other things she'd like to achieve in her career 2. she wants a Federal Bench, but she's probably 10 years from being able to seriously think about that. 3. She's thinking about applying to be an adjunct professor for evening law class at El Valiente Community College. Jamie WARNS Rockford: "John, getting what I want might mean leaving Valeria County." Rockford goes, Oh!

Day 33
Seo Jun/Jamie at Café: Seo Jun [about Jamie being ADA]: "You're too ambitious for this job, Jamie. Unless you want to run the office one day."

Day 42
Jamie's home: phone call: Prof Williams: "And a career as a local prosecutor and an adjunct professor at a local law school would be a good path for a lot of people. But I think you belong on a bigger stage." Jamie: "I hope so. I'm enjoying what I do now. But let's see what the future holds." Prof Williams: "The future is now, Jamie."


Jamie understands the dynamic of her relationship with Rockford and knows full-well (from Seo Jun) how emotionally unfulfilling an actual intimate relationship with Rockford might be.

Day 17
Rockford's tells Sean/Donna-Lee his reasons for not feeling romantic about Jamie: 1. They're just friends. 2. He still sees her as just a kid. 3. Her parents think he's a pedo. 4. She's a Carrington.

Day 24
Rockford/Jamie date at Sushi restaurant: Jamie: "This is the first time you and I have ever been out alone."

Day 33
Seo Jun/Jamie at Café: Jamie: "
I did have a crush on him. For so long. But I'm afraid he'll always think of me as Trevor's kid sister."

Day 33
Seo Jun/Jamie at Café: Seo Jun: "So you're over him?" "Jamie: "I don't know.
I still have feelings for him, but I'm staring to think that maybe it's time for me to grow up and move on. If that's what needs to happen, then I'll accept it. But he'll still be an important part of my life. I'll always care about him as a friend." Seo Jun: "And if he comes to you tomorrow and professes his love?" Jamie: "Then we will immediately engage in 72 straight hours of raucous lovemaking." [players should understand that Jamie's last statement was made with nothing at stake and without the knowledge she'd soon face a difficult choice between career and Rockford]

Day 38
At Cinema, Trevor [to Jamie]: "You know, if you are still planning to bed and wed [Rockford],
the last thing you should be doing is asking him to treat you like a sister." Jamie: "I know."

Day 45
At the Carrington Estate: Trevor: "Why haven't you told him about the offer?" Jamie: "Because I want it to be my choice." Trevor: "And if you know that if [Rockford] wanted you to stay, you would." Jamie: "He wouldn't ask me to stay. You know he'd never ask that." Trevor: "I didn't say he'd ask you. But you know that telling him you're leaving might be the only way you're ever going to find out how he really feels about you. You know, I think he really has changed over the last year. He's more open. More emotionally trusting." Jamie: "It's his sister." Trevor: "It's not just his sister, Jamie." Jamie: "How can I think about leaving him, Trevor, with all the growth he's made?" Trevor: "You can't make a decision like this based on hope placed in an unrequited love." Jamie: "It's not that, it's... I wanted to be his friend. I wanted to be here for him. I wanted to show him the value of really opening himself up. Instead it's the same old pattern for him. He allows himself to care about someone and he ends up alone and hurt. How can I do that to him again? Of all people, how can I be the person who proves he was right all along to keep us away?" Trevor: "You're not abandoning him. This isn't the 18th century, Jamie. Rockford will always be just a phone call away. Besides, you have to make the choice that's best for you, not for him. I know you already know that. Just like I know you've already decided what it is that you really want."


Jamie understands that she has a crush on Rockford, puppy love if you like. That doesn't mean she doesn't love him deeply in a platonic sense. Rather, she started to wake up to the fact that some fairy tale romance with Rockford might just be a pipe dream.

With this in mind, why would Jamie drop everything and abandon/put on hold her career goals - given her ambition - just because Rockford's had a couple of weeks of opening up [bearing in mind it took him a fucking year of working with Jamie to get that far]? That's straight-up AVN porn logic at play that frustrated players blame on "bad writing."

On a positive note, let's hope Trevor's statement, "But you know that telling him you're leaving might be the only way you're ever going to find out how he really feels about you" has some significance going forward. As much as I hope it does, I doubt it. Things are likely to get a bit darker in Rockford's world over the next couple of chapters before they get brighter. Anyway, it's going to be a wild ride...
I feel like a lot of the disappointment from some players comes from the feeling that Jamie rejected Rockford. But thats imo not really what happend, its just that she cant put her life on hold for a chance of a fickle relationship with her crush.

I doubt there wouldnt have been a chance if Rockford for example reacted with "We could still make it work" or whatever.

But she simply couldnt let him kiss her and tell him thats shes gonna leave afterwards considering his past.

She stopped the kiss in Rockfords interest, not in her own, im sure she would have loved to get that kiss lol

And she was right in her assessment of his feelings, as soon as she told him, he did shut down emotionally and was back to being the old rockford immediatly

Jamie without her ambitions and talent wouldnt be jamie, she would just be the next 0815 childhood friend who entirely devotes herself and her life to one guy
 

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I feel like a lot of the disappointment from some players comes from the feeling that Jamie rejected Rockford. But thats imo not really what happend, its just that she cant put her life on hold for a chance of a fickle relationship with her crush.

I doubt there wouldnt have been a chance if Rockford for example reacted with "We could still make it work" or whatever.

But she simply couldnt let him kiss her and tell him thats shes gonna leave afterwards considering his past.

She stopped the kiss in Rockfords interest, not in her own, im sure she would have loved to get that kiss lol

And she was right in her assessment of his feelings, as soon as she told him, he did shut down emotionally and was back to being the old rockford immediatly

Jamie without her ambitions and talent wouldnt be jamie, she would just be the next 0815 childhood friend who entirely devotes herself and her life to one guy
Plus, Jamie told Trevor EXACTLY how Rockford would react when she told him, and he reacted EXACTLY as Jamie said he would.
 
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Guys, have you ever seen dozens of these romantic melodramas, with a variation of the same plot?

So, they know each other since childhood/school/college/alcoholics anonymous support group, they are best friends, one of them (or both at once) starts to develop feelings for the other (or the feelings were always there) but they don't want to admit it because it will ruin their friendship or some other equally stupid excuse (like Rockford's, for example - she is Trevor's little sister)

And throughout the entire film they can't just sit down next to each other and discuss their problem. So in the end one of them decides to move on and gets married/goes to Korea/whatever, and the other only then admits that this is the love of his or her life, which he or she will lose soon.

Then comes the dramatic twist with separation, all is lost, there is no hope, but in the last minutes before the credits our completely lost MC or FMC is called by name/met with flowers/thrown a rotten tomato in the back -- he or she turns around and there is his or her love, which has also realized that she or he can't live without our MC or FMC. Happy ending. Credits roll.

I was forced to watch more than one such a movie. I assure you, they barely pull off 16+, there is no porn and its logic there.
Well, I expect Jamie and Rockford's eventual coming together to happen one night out on the street in the pouring rain with an appropriately melodramatic and sappy music track playing. :)

Sitting down and having a full-on adult and intimate conversation just isn't in Rockford's DNA yet. Jamie called it to Trevor. She knew EXACTLY how Rockford would react once she told him and so it came to pass.
 
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Well, I expect Jamie and Rockford's eventual coming together to happen one night out on the street in the pouring rain with an appropriately melodramatic and sappy music track playing. :)

Sitting down and having a full-on adult and intimate conversation just isn't in Rockford's DNA yet. Jamie called it to Trevor. She knew EXACTLY how Rockford would react once she told him and so it came to pass.
I don't get it, there will be no happy ending with Jamie? :Kappa:
 
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I don't get it, there will be no happy ending with Jamie? :Kappa:
I'm not sure what you're referring to.

You previously mentioned those romantic melodramas. One trope/cliche in such melodramas is when the two romantic leads - outside in the rain at night - finally fall into each others arms and realize they were meant to be together. This usually involves one running after the other.

Jamie has chosen to move away. The deadline for her to make her decision has come and gone and she's only a couple of weeks away from moving. How Impious Monk resolves this story arc is anyone's guess, but I doubt he made Jamie one of three LIs simply for the sake of a rug-pull.

I said the required level of intimacy isn't in Rockford's DNA. That's perhaps a bad analogy. What I mean is that his intimacy issues are so deeply ingrained that he's not yet capable of overcoming them fully. He's not there yet, but that doesn't mean he won't grow and get there in the future.
 
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I'm not sure what you're referring to.

You previously mentioned those romantic melodramas. One trope/cliche in such melodramas is when the two romantic leads - outside in the rain at night - finally fall into each others arms and realize they were meant to be together. This usually involves one running after the other.

Jamie has chosen to move away. The deadline for her to make her decision has come and gone and she's only a couple of weeks away from moving. How Impious Monk resolves this story arc is anyone's guess, but I doubt he made Jamie one of three LIs simply for the sake of a rug-pull.
I mean, this Impious is probably going to put Rockford before a dilemma again - either follow Jamie and leave the others to their own problems. Like Em and the Asian gang, Em and Koch, Aghavni and the cold-blooded assassin, Malena and... well, just her. Also Colleen. Or stay to help them and lose Jamie.
 
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I mean, this Impious is probably going to put Rockford before a dilemma again - either follow Jamie and leave the others to their own problems. Like Em and the Asian gang, Em and Koch, Aghavni and the cold-blooded assassin, Malena and... well, just her. Also Colleen. Or stay to help them and lose Jamie.
Obviously, I don't have an answer to that. It comes down to if the only resolution with Jamie requires Rockford to move away and join her. Besides, Jamie hasn't got on that plane yet, so she's still around for the moment.

If Rockford did have to make the choice you mentioned, then it's gonna be a boring final four chapters on the Jamie path, since most of the cast of NPCs will be absent. My honest worry is that the only route open on the Jamie path requires Rockford to take up Cassie/Sen Carrington's offer to become their political sock-puppet.
 
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Overview:
A criminal prosecutor's commitment to the justice system is challenged when a cold case murder investigation leads to his father's military special forces unit.
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Release Date: 2025-01-29
Developer: Impious Monk - -
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Version: Episode Four.3a
OS: Windows, Linux, Mac, Android
Language: English
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Love this game great story line
 
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