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Thanks!

My next project will be another harem based game, so you might like that one as well.
thats great i personality like harem games where i can choose what LI i wanted to it, there case when i played one harem porn game and i liked only one of the LI, being monogamous in a harem game. Ironic.
 

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thats great i personality like harem games where i can choose what LI i wanted to it, there case when i played one harem porn game and i liked only one of the LI, being monogamous in a harem game. Ironic.
Unfortunately that won't be a possibility on my next project, as it will be a kinetic novel.
Depending on how I end up designing it, you can probably ignore most of the women even if they will be considered your partners, but some hentai scenes will be part of the story.
 
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Is there a chance that the game will have renpy/rpgm version , or and android one?
Why Ren'Py or RPGM?
The game has already the same features as a standard Ren'Py game.

There is a public poll + a patreon goal for Android version, but not only the majority voted against it, but I am not anywhere close to hitting that goal, so it is highly unlikely.
 

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I really like Danmachi, both the anime and the light novel and I think this parody may be very promising in the future, I hope you can keep working on this game, can't wait for the next update :). in case you have some time left, could you give me some tips on how to make a game like that? the reason I'm asking this is that in the future I intend to work on a game in that style.
 

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Unfortunately that won't be a possibility on my next project, as it will be a kinetic novel.
Depending on how I end up designing it, you can probably ignore most of the women even if they will be considered your partners, but some hentai scenes will be part of the story.
Not a chance that I will ignore the DxD girls :whistle:
 

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in case you have some time left, could you give me some tips on how to make a game like that? the reason I'm asking this is that in the future I intend to work on a game in that style.
Sure, let's start with your knowledge: If you know python (really well, as in years of experience), you can actually use Ren'Py which covers the whole Visual Novel system, and make a dungeon system like https://f95zone.to/threads/sakura-dungeon-v1-0-5-winged-cloud.997/ otherwise if you have experience in other languages or none at all, you are better off learning C# since using real 3D will make things much easier and less time consuming.

If you know/learn C# and decide to use Unity, you will have to either code a Visual Novel system that has all features of Ren'Py (else people will lynch you) or buy a framework, I bought Naninovel on a 50% discount, it went 75% after 1 month and I am still salty about it.

Now, with that covered, the tips I can give you (whether you end up using Unity or not) are:
1- Create a Game Design Document before even beginning the project, it is really important. If the game is a house, then the Game Design Document is the foundation, and it must be solid if you do not want everything to go down eventually.
If you have never written one or do not even know what that is, start from here.

2- While Game Engines are very accessible, you cannot start working on a project while learning them from day one, you could but give it a few months and the whole thing will be really messy. Depending on the Game Engine you are using, you will need from 6 months to years of experience before you can release anything to the public, hence why postponing it to the future is a really bad idea. If you want to make a game, start now because it is a lengthy process before you can actually release anything to the public.

3- Keep it simple, especially if you decide to go for Unity or any other Game Engine other than Ren'Py or RPGM.
In the SFW scene they always suggest to make a pong game or other really simple looking games for starters, and while that may sound dumb, it is actually a pretty good suggestion: Even if something looks and plays simple on the surface, it does not mean it is actually simple to make for a beginner. If you have just downloaded Unity, then you have no idea how to make a pong game, and by learning how to do that, you learn many important concepts that you can apply somewhere else.

4- Do not update your Game Engine mid-development.
While you can get away with updating some Game Engines such as Ren'Py (although even that lead to some issues in the past), engines like Unity are a big no-no. You are surely going to break something if you update mid development, and it is not really worth it. Choose a production ready release of Unity, and stick to it until the end of the project, fixes are of course an exception. Those are 99% safe to install.

5- Keep it simple (x2): Even after getting a lot of experience, you should still release a simple game (which can still be good) on your first time. The reason is that players will break your game, and you need to be ready to fix all the reported issues.
You testing your game vs other people testing your game will always yield different results, that is why testers are a thing, so the more complex your project is, the more you will be overwhelmed which is bad on your first time. You should dip your toes with a simple project like a pure Visual Novel, which is the great majority of games in this website anyways.

6- Have a solid base from which you can work off from.
Thanks to your Game Design Document, you know ahead of time all the core system your game needs... Inventory, Battle System, Items, Characters, and so on. All those core elements, even if boring, need to be made flawless right from the beginning, and easy to extend and edit. They need to be as solid as your experience/knowledge allows them to be, otherwise the whole thing will crumble eventually (or won't be as stable as it could).
A good example is actually this game: R18 (the alpha build currently updated here) has tons of issues because I had to redo the whole Battle System from scratch (literally deleted the old one), and even the Input System to integrate the Gamepad support. I knew ahead of time that would bring issues as many other things depended on the Battle System, but the old one really didn't work out as well as I had hoped.


Those are a few general tips that come to mind, if you'd like my opinion on something more specific, feel free to ask!
 
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Why Ren'Py or RPGM?
The game has already the same features as a standard Ren'Py game.

There is a public poll + a patreon goal for Android version, but not only the majority voted against it, but I am not anywhere close to hitting that goal, so it is highly unlikely.
Oh because if the game have rpgm or renpy system there is 80% chance i can use joiplay on my android phone to play it , some games might not work but from personal experience the ones that do actually have better gameplay/smoothness than normal android version ,and thanks for replying and telling me about the goal and what happened in the poll :PogChamp:
 
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in case you have some time left, could you give me some tips on how to make a game like that? the reason I'm asking this is that in the future I intend to work on a game in that style.
Years of experience is asking too much and book smarts doesn't always transfer to street smarts.

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On Floor 2 at the beginning there is an event where you get asked "what is life's greatest joke". Does somebody have the answer to that question.
 

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On Floor 2 at the beginning there is an event where you get asked "what is life's greatest joke". Does somebody have the answer to that question.
Based on that known saying: "If life is a joke then death delivers the punchline", I've put death and had a fight after. I don't know if that was right or not, but I moved forward at least *chuckles*
 
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Good guess, that unlocks the Jester Mask which enables auto combat.
What can I say, not only am I exceptionally humble, but I am very smart and awesome as well.
Side note: I'm stuck after "the betrayal", when I try to go up the stairs, the game does its bug thing where no actions are available, has a patch been released for this bug that I've missed or...?

sidesidenote: Are there plans to put the game on steam or Itch? I don't use patreon due to their shitty policies and banning, and subscribestar only allows for CC payments (I only put my CC in paypal, nowhere else.) I'd just like to buy the game :)
 
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Side note: I'm stuck after "the betrayal", when I try to go up the stairs, the game does its bug thing where no actions are available, has a patch been released for this bug that I've missed or...?
Can you describe better the bug? I am not sure what you mean.

During the "Reason for Betrayal" quest, you should be in Floor 10 and you need to look for Lili, right? The token for the stairs should be gone, and instead you will have a quest token saying you should be looking for lili in that floor, and nearby you will find another quest token which will play a scene that enables the stairs token, then you can look for her (She is on the seventh floor).

A patch for R18 has been released, but I am not sure if this thread has been updated with the new links.


sidesidenote: Are there plans to put the game on steam or Itch? I don't use patreon due to their shitty policies and banning, and subscribestar only allows for CC payments (I only put my CC in paypal, nowhere else.) I'd just like to buy the game :)
I am not legally allowed to sell this game, and considering that all the builds shift to public tier eventually, all of my games become free so there would not be much of a purpose to sell them anyways.
 

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Can you describe better the bug? I am not sure what you mean.

During the "Reason for Betrayal" quest, you should be in Floor 10 and you need to look for Lili, right? The token for the stairs should be gone, and instead you will have a quest token saying you should be looking for lili in that floor, and nearby you will find another quest token which will play a scene that enables the stairs token, then you can look for her (She is on the seventh floor).

A patch for R18 has been released, but I am not sure if this thread has been updated with the new links.
The game looses all interactions sometimes, this bug was supposed to be worked on in the next version, thing is, I don't think the next version made it here :D

I am not legally allowed to sell this game, and considering that all the builds shift to public tier eventually, all of my games become free so there would not be much of a purpose to sell them anyways.
Honestly, I'm not sure what the difference between monthly fees and a flat fee would make in a court :) But fair enough I guess.
I just wanted to throw a couple of bucks your way :)
 

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The game looses all interactions sometimes, this bug was supposed to be worked on in the next version, thing is, I don't think the next version made it here :D
Maybe, R18 (unpatched) is filled with bugs.

This is the patch's changelog:
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Not sure if it contains the fix of the bug you are experiencing, it depends on the interaction I guess? I'd need more details.


Honestly, I'm not sure what the difference between monthly fees and a flat fee would make in a court :) But fair enough I guess.
The idea is that Patreon/SS is not a shop, but a way to support the creator.
Of course making fan games/parodies as a whole is a grey area, sale or not.


I just wanted to throw a couple of bucks your way :)
If it is for the sake of supporting this project, just playing the game and giving feedback/suggestion goes a long way, and it is really appreciated.
 
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