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Its extremely likely, given everything that occurred, that Kaori and her parents were injured / killed in the same accident that took sekai and nozomu, and they used sekais organs for the transplant kaori needed. thats why she seems to be able to just take control of kaori. also why kaori showed up to the roof during last reset dressed as her... dont feel bad, i also initially thought it was little yumi as well lol
Hmm. Have there ever been hints that Kaori is a transplant patient from the medical perspective? Needing to take meds, easily gets sick, frequently having to go to the doctors, that sort of thing? Not necessarily what I'd expect a porn game to focus on, but those sort of details are constantly mentioned with Chinami.
 
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Hmm. Have there ever been hints that Kaori is a transplant patient from the medical perspective? Needing to take meds, easily gets sick, frequently having to go to the doctors, that sort of thing? Not necessarily what I'd expect a porn game to focus on, but those sort of details are constantly mentioned with Chinami.
Yes, she says she has to go to see the doctors periodically to drink the health juice or something, and that she has a spot that can't be touched or she dies when Akira mentions having a soft spot for her.
 
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Hmm. Have there ever been hints that Kaori is a transplant patient from the medical perspective? Needing to take meds, easily gets sick, frequently having to go to the doctors, that sort of thing? Not necessarily what I'd expect a porn game to focus on, but those sort of details are constantly mentioned with Chinami.
I'm going to just sort of crap on this theory, but you can't put an adult humans heart in a child or young teen as its to big in general.
That being said this is a fictional work and real world issues might not apply. Also she had crime connections so they might be able to get ahold of a doctor with no ethics willing to do it survival rate for something like that is really low though
 
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Got through the update, and sheesh it left me wanting more. A shame next update will probably be nearing the end of June. Did not expect Kaori to latch onto Akira like that. Nor the eyecolor changing...

I can't wait to see if he tells Maya and Ayana about Makoto telling Ami of the resets. And what comes on it. It seems soon the next phase of this game will be taking the darker path. At least from what I saw earlier about this. How this is the first phase, and then there will be a darker one, and then one for Akira to redeem himself. Something like that. But DAMN is Ami scary, this explains a lot about why always has such weird scenes or seems to act aggressive, like with Haruka that one time. But Akira's phone dying as well, has gotta be some supernatural interference. Even while I assume Ami was the one lying about the phone call
 
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is there a post that details the trigger requirements for 31? I want to avoid reading comments here as much as possible and searching the last few posts haven't helped
 

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In the last event of Kaori when all the strange things happen Sel may did the same shit as always and put some shit to remember when he may ask for it 300 updates after
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Or maybe its there for nothing. Also i dont think that this number have appeared before.
I think it will be usefull later because it simply appears like so randomly and its hard not to notice
 
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is there a post that details the trigger requirements for 31? I want to avoid reading comments here as much as possible and searching the last few posts haven't helped
The guide txt
Although the other guy posted it already, I've also done a 0.31 event guide with the triggers for events I found from the game script. I haven't done all events yet but this should be correct. Doing events from top to bottom order from this guide is recommended.
EDIT: I also did this hex translation for events that has it.
 

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In the last event of Kaori when all the strange things happen Sel may did the same shit as always and put some shit to remember when he may ask for it 300 updates after
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Or maybe its there for nothing. Also i dont think that this number have appeared before.
I think it will be usefull later because it simply appears like so randomly and its hard not to notice
Yeah, that, and 23:19 might show up at the next reset:
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Also maybe some other stuff, like 1+1=3, Sekai's car seemingly being the Toy Car that showed up in long Maya's hand, that Long Maya told you to text the letter X, that 8 and half is considered a big cock, the time you found Nao-chan since there's a clock and bunny behind her when you do, that there's like 19 different ways to make coffee, etc. Then again maybe none of this matters.
 

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I'm going to just sort of crap on this theory, but you can't put an adult humans heart in a child or young teen as its to big in general.
That being said this is a fictional work and real world issues might not apply. Also she had crime connections so they might be able to get ahold of a doctor with no ethics willing to do it survival rate for something like that is really low though
How old was she supposed to be at the time of the accident? In the real world 13+ can get adult hearts (no idea what the standard of care in Japan would be though)

The parts that wouldn't happen in the real world: Organs almost never go to the same hospital, the odds that two unrelated individuals in the same accident having relatively compatible hla subtypes is vanishingly small. I also can't say I've heard of heart transplants occurring due to a traumatic injury
 
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How old was she supposed to be at the time of the accident? In the real world 13+ can get adult hearts (no idea what the standard of care in Japan would be though)
She's around 22, and the accident was around 8 years (or around 9, depending on how far along they are in the loop). So, Kaori would have been around 14.

Just realized this means Kaori possibly turns 23 before the resets reset time. Might be nothing, but 23 comes up a lot.
 
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Just realized this means Kaori possibly turns 23 before the resets reset time. Might be nothing, but 23 comes up a lot.
Kaori's birthday is on Christmas. We already have a Christmas super-event in Chapter 3, but we might have another before the reset since iirc we also had 2 of them in Chapter 2

Speaking of which, maybe kissing Kaori was the "thing that Sensei wasn't supposed to have, to get before the snow comes again". Idk I have nothing to support this theory at the moment, it's just a feeling
 

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Kaori's birthday is on Christmas. We already have a Christmas super-event in Chapter 3, but we might have another before the reset since iirc we also had 2 of them in Chapter 2

Speaking of which, maybe kissing Kaori was the "thing that Sensei wasn't supposed to have, to get before the snow comes again". Idk I have nothing to support this theory at the moment, it's just a feeling
Interesting, and yeah I can see it being Kaori, albeit personally I'm thinking it might be Maya.

They almost kissed recently, Sensei has been trying to seduce her ever since, and if they do anything, it'll presumably break him, which implies it's something he's not supposed to have according to "the world" itself/herself (Maya herself fits that perfectly).

There's also how it was Yasu's god who said that:
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and afterwards Yasu noted that her god apparently "wants" Maya:
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HOPE/Nozomu which seems to be Yasu's god has made it clear it wants to devour those that Sensei loves, and it seems likely that Maya is at the top of the list.

Then again, I could be completely wrong.

Sana could also be a possibility, as could Rin, especially since those two might even be related to Sensei if it was his brother who knocked up their bio moms. Maybe it was even Nodoka? It definitely felt more taboo than usual imo.

Also it's probably a stretch, but the shapeshifter herself also might fit. She claims to not be that kind of character, which fits the not supposed to have part, by design. Then add on the possibility that she's some kind of supernatural daughter of his, and that makes it even more taboo.
 
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A couple of things i might add.

I don't think that Nao-chan having Maya's and Ami's eyes is the only option.
For Akira it's closer to assume it's Ami's, while it could also be Sekai's.
He just tries to omit any thought about her and also considers her dead and gone forever.

In relation to that, while i think my assumption that Ami is the main antagonist, at least for now, is still true, she might not be on her own volition.
Maybe everytime we see Ami with the strange eyes it's in fact Sekai controlling her.
If Sel wanted to point something like that out, going with other than koikatsu eyes would be a good way to go. You'd see no difference if he'd use koikatsu eyes because both pairs are red.
Further, i like barglenarglezous theory with the organ donation. Which would be why Sekai can control Kaori and Ami (Ami already is 50% Sekai to begin with).

A question is why Sekai drives at least some of the girls into whatever relationships with Akira. She must now that Ami doesn't like that. But maybe that's the point and she does it so Ami kills them all.



About the Upside Down House and Nodoka.

There are at least three or four people living in it. (Or five or Six, but i guess it's time to show you.)
Someone with the initial:
-Y (What was she called again by Nodoka? Yoki,Yuki - will edit- It was Yuko thanks to DeSkel15)
-K (Don't know "could" be Kaori, in Disord she was refered to as something like Khione? Nagasawa, a relative? to Nodoka? I don't know where that came from.)
-S (Setsuna? Don't know if that is one or two persons)

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The way Nodoka speaks about some things in her new events kind of feels like she's trying to point out that the whole Kumonmi thing is something someone in the Upside Down House made up to cope with some trauma.
 
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Interesting, and yeah I can see it being Kaori, albeit personally I'm thinking it might be Maya.

They almost kissed recently, Sensei has been trying to seduce her ever since, and if they do anything, it'll presumably break him, which implies it's something he's not supposed to have according to "the world" itself/herself (Maya herself fits that perfectly).

There's also how it was Yasu's god who said that:
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and afterwards Yasu noted that her god apparently "wants" Maya:
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HOPE/Nozomu which seems to be Yasu's god has made it clear it wants to devour those that Sensei loves, and it seems likely that Maya is at the top of the list.

Then again, I could be completely wrong.

Sana could also be a possibility, as could Rin, especially since those two might even be related to Sensei if it was his brother who knocked up their bio moms. Maybe it was even Nodoka? It definitely felt more taboo than usual imo.

Also it's probably a stretch, but the shapeshifter herself also might fit. She claims to not be that kind of character, which fits the not supposed to have part, by design. Then add on the possibility that she's some kind of supernatural daughter of his, and that makes it even more taboo.
You're not wrong. As far as i remember Akira says something like "Maya is something i can't have". But the same couple of events i was like "Didn't he say that somewhere else? To someone else?" Maybe ill find it again.

At least one time it's refered in Maya's: The Sun, And All It's Toxic Rays.
Pretty much at the end.
"And staring so long at something I can not have hurts me more than any amount of the heat’s embrace ever could."

But like i said, i still think something similar was said about someone else somewhere else. But god, that already took too long to find.
 
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A couple of things i might add.

I don't think that Nao-chan having Maya's and Ami's eyes is the only option.
For Akira it's closer to assume it's Ami's, while it could also be Sekai's.
He just tries to omit any thought about her and also considers her dead and gone forever.

In relation to that, while i think my assumption that Ami is the main antagonist, at least for now, is still true, she might not be on her own volition.
Maybe everytime we see Ami with the strange eyes it's in fact Sekai controlling her.
If Sel wanted to point something like that out, going with other than koikatsu eyes would be a good way to go. You'd see no difference if he'd use koikatsu eyes because both pairs are red.
Further, i like brrrgrrrls (will edit name) theory with the organ donation. Which would be why Sekai can control Kaori and Ami (Ami already is 50% Sekai to begin with).

A question is why Sekai drives at least some of the girls into whatever relationships with Akira. She must now that Ami doesn't like that. But maybe that's the point and she does it so Ami kills them all.



About the Upside Down House and Nodoka.

There are at least three or four people living in it. (Or five or Six, but i guess it's time to show you.)
Someone with the initial:
-Y (What was she called again by Nodoka? Yoki,Yuki - will edit)
-K (Don't know "could" be Kaori, in Disord she was refered to as something like Khione? Nagasawa, a relative? to Nodoka? I don't know where that came from.)
-S (Setsuna? Don't know if that is one or two persons)

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The way Nodoka speaks about some things in her new events kind of feels like she's trying to point out that the whole Kumonmi thing is something someone in the Upside Down House made up to cope with some trauma.
Yuko is the name Nodoka gave. Apparently there's 5 girls and "Papa" related to the house, and one girl has pink hair that's different to Noriko's.

Where do those SKY initials come from, btw? I mean it makes sense, since the Sky comes up a bit, but I don't recall the intials being related to the house.

Also, I can definitely see Nao-Chan having Sekai's eyes instead of Ami's. I seem to recall Ami being said to have her mother's eyes as well.

As for possession, it seems like Nao's eyes replaces Ami's quite a bit, ever since the breed a niece game.

Sekai, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have a reason to possess Ami, as well as her kind of possession seeming to either take their eyes or in Kaori's case replace their eyes. Then again Nao seems related to Sekai and "The Spirit" that wanted to want, so it could be serving Sekai's will in it's own way.

Personally, I think Psycho Ami is that Mangled/Happy/Memory Ami that shows up after resets sometimes, possessing Ami. It's actually mentioned the breed a niece game, so it's possible that the Nao eyes that show up actually is it's. It's also always seemed unhinged and like Psycho Ami, it seems related to the resets, as well as unable to survive through resets until certain conditions bring it back. (Unless Maya did something to get rid of Psycho Ami in the past, besides simply waiting her out.) Of course, I could be completely wrong.
 
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