Duskreyn

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I wonder if there will ever be another event on Akira's birthday, in my opinion with the fact that he is starting to remember things it would be a nice event:unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:
First we should know what date/season it is (first the revelation before perhaps some event with birthday), now for some reason it's still a big unknown I don't think it's that close to happening.

Ami and Niki should know that date but for some reason they don't seem or want to bring it up, and I think it won't be a nice thing to say, quite possibly Akira's birthday is related to not so pleasant memories with Saki/Sekai, there are many references to birthday parties through happy events and sexual/traumatic events/blackouts.

Definitely if Sekai gave some gift or celebrated a birthday to Akira, nothing to think about, memories of that, in this state it would be the final dagger. :unsure:
 
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First we should know what date/season it is (first the revelation before perhaps some event with birthday), now for some reason it's still a big unknown I don't think it's that close to happening.

Ami and Niki should know that date but for some reason they don't seem or want to bring it up, and I think it won't be a nice thing to say, quite possibly Akira's birthday is related to not so pleasant memories with Saki/Sekai, there are many references to birthday parties through happy events and sexual/traumatic events/blackouts.

Definitely if Sekai gave some gift or celebrated a birthday to Akira, nothing to think about, memories of that, in this state it would be the final dagger. :unsure:
yet I clearly remember that there was an event in the first chapter where akira, emi, maya and ayane go to an ice cream shop, and it turns out that that day was akira's birthday
 

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I was looking back on previous events, and I must say, I'm surprised Sel never capitalized on that event before the reset where Sensei was telling Io to fuck off at the party so he could calm down and didn't have her go through a meltdown because she'd figure Sensei hates her now and it's time she gave up on life or bla bla blah.
She took it quite well.
could have something to do w/ Makoto's cryptic text message shes sends during The End of the World event chp3 or something further down the line
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only other time i can think of something similar is The Light of Last Summer event chp2 w/ Ayane trying to contact Uta during the day of the reset but wasnt able to contact her I might be reading into it too much though
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yet I clearly remember that there was an event in the first chapter where akira, emi, maya and ayane go to an ice cream shop, and it turns out that that day was akira's birthday
You remember wrong. You're talking about the Ami Event (Couple's Discount (Sea of Diamonds)), but that's not Akira's birthday, it's Ami's.

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You guys still think were getting the purity/dark routes or did Sel change his mind on that? I'm more curious about those than anything right now to be honest.
 

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You guys still think were getting the purity/dark routes or did Sel change his mind on that? I'm more curious about those than anything right now to be honest.
It's still standing, Sel hasn't said otherwise, harem route then dark route, 35 endings in purity, and after that a true ending.

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the discussion here reminded me about this bit (Louis C.K.). first 2 minutes:
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I'm totally down with telling fucked up stories, I just really don't see the point of this one. With high schoolers, you can make a point in relation to the genre (which Sel does throughout the series). Almost all VNs are set in high school, and involve a protag trying to romance them. What if we explore the idea of the objectification and fetishization of real life traumas and stories in these sort of games, and try to alter how the viewer experiences these scenarios, a sort of antidote to desensitization? That I can accept - there's an interesting point to be made, and at that stage the game didn't really focus on the MC so he fulfilled the self-insert role most of these stories have.

But with this sort of story, what point are you even trying to make that can't be made using the current cast of characters? And you can't hide behind the idea of "subversion" because your average VN isn't gonna have 8 year old heroines. It also closes far more doors than open because writing wise, adding this element only gives you one real path to develop the character - you don't cross "the line" and get away with it.

But maybe that is the intent, who knows. A litmus test on to what extent the audience can tolerate a monster and at what point will that tolerance break, or how a monster can trick normal people to "empathize" with them. Question is, do you trust Sel enough as a writer to guide the story through, or will we be talking in a few months time how it's not Sensei's fault that Maya or Tsukasa or whoever as a 10 year old tried to seduce him?
 

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I wonder if there will ever be another event on Akira's birthday, in my opinion with the fact that he is starting to remember things it would be a nice event:unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:
Since absolutely no one ever brought it up or attempted to celebrate for/with him, I bet his birthday is sitting roughly in the first two quarters of a year (preferably in those spring months) so the weird time mechanism of Kumon-mi simply skips it every time.

It’s either that or this world deletes the concept of his birthday from the face of the earth. Otherwise this womanizer’s birthday is probably like a goddamn national holiday to these girls and there is no way they’d knowingly miss a chance to do something, especially Ayane.
 
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Since absolutely no one ever brought it up or attempted to celebrate for/with him, I bet his birthday is sitting roughly in the first two quarters of a year (preferably in those spring months) so the weird time mechanism of Kumon-mi simply skips it every time.
You are onto something, and I think I figured out the date: it's march 15th. Why? Well, see below:
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And I can see spring is definitely his season. Also, on his day you can visit a monument in commemoration of his glorious penis:
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You are onto something, and I think I figured out the date: it's march 15th. Why? Well, see below:
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And I can see spring is definitely his season. Also, on his day you can visit a monument in commemoration of his glorious penis:
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I feel like the story has a huge plot hole that everyone has forgotten about.

So... you know how when you start a new game, everyone thinks you're the same Akira as always?
Not Maya, she knew WE were controlling him and that it wasn't the same person anymore, so what happened to that? Did she forget or did she willingfully ignore that and still decided to fall in love "Akira"
It might've been so long ago that I forgot if there was anything to tackle this but at some point it seems that Maya stopped talking about it completely after she realised this new Akira could survive resets and just decided to cope and live in a lie.

another explanation is that she realised that it was still the same Akira, because he technically behaves, talks and acts like the same person, regardless of who (us) is moving and controlling him. But you can also argue that's not a good explanation because during critical choices, we are still the ones that dictate what to do, just like in the "Tsukasa Wizard magic training" choice in this update. We chose, not Akira, he is still a souless puppet.
 
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I feel like the story has a huge plot hole that everyone has forgotten about.

So... you know how when you start a new game, everyone thinks you're the same Akira as always?
Not Maya, she knew WE were controlling him and that it wasn't the same person anymore, so what happened to that? Did she forget or did she willingfully ignore that and still decided to fall in love "Akira"
It might've been so long ago that I forgot if there was anything to tackle this but at some point it seems that Maya stopped talking about it completely after she realised this new Akira could survive resets and just decided to cope and live in a lie.

another explanation is that she realised that it was still the same Akira, because he technically behaves, talks and acts like the same person, regardless of who (us) is moving and controlling him. But you can also argue that's not a good explanation because during critical choices, we are still the ones that dictate what to do, just like in the "Tsukasa Wizard magic training" choice in this update. We chose, not Akira, he is still a souless puppet.
She knew he was reset, and believes that not all resets are the "real" Akira, but she starts believing he is the "real" Akira because he starts remembering his past.
Also she doesn't fall in love with him, she is always in love with the past him and keeps loving him even through the resets.
 

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I feel like the story has a huge plot hole that everyone has forgotten about.

So... you know how when you start a new game, everyone thinks you're the same Akira as always?
Not Maya, she knew WE were controlling him and that it wasn't the same person anymore, so what happened to that? Did she forget or did she willingfully ignore that and still decided to fall in love "Akira"
It might've been so long ago that I forgot if there was anything to tackle this but at some point it seems that Maya stopped talking about it completely after she realised this new Akira could survive resets and just decided to cope and live in a lie.

another explanation is that she realised that it was still the same Akira, because he technically behaves, talks and acts like the same person, regardless of who (us) is moving and controlling him. But you can also argue that's not a good explanation because during critical choices, we are still the ones that dictate what to do, just like in the "Tsukasa Wizard magic training" choice in this update. We chose, not Akira, he is still a souless puppet.
Maya thought others were reincarnating into him, but she was wrong.

Maya tends to be wrong a lot. Hence why Noriko is damn near a Saint, but a fucking crazy psycho bitch in Maya's opinion.

We also don't actually control Sensei. If he doesn't want to do something then we can't force him.

Hence why we can't talk to New Maya or do half the things we might want. Even if we do tell him to do something, he'll simply ignore us if he wants, like when it comes to Uta's picture which he keeps whether we delete it or not.

Tsukasa is only optionally safe for now, thanks to us. Not that it matters, considering he still has her number and the story will end up going however Sel wants.

Edit: Just to give an example of what I mean by Maya tending to be wrong:
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Sensei not being Sensei, the pregnancy theory, Makoto telling Ami about the loops not being her fault, and apparently psycho Ami are all things she's been wrong about.

It's more or less a character trait for Maya to be wrong:
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